Oct 2, 2009 9:18:33 AM
- PorSchelover1
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Oct 2, 2009 9:18:33 AM
Oct 2, 2009 9:37:32 AM
Oct 2, 2009 9:45:47 AM
I am a bit surprised that the Hayabusa is not faster... In case of the GTR in this video the 0-300kph runs are in the range of 30s (maybe slightly below) (assuming a 4% deviation of the speedometer). This is fast. But not extremely fast. I would have thought that a motorbike that strong should be faster than 33s or so...
BTW, what hp output does this tuned GTR engine have?
MKSGR:
I am a bit surprised that the Hayabusa is not faster... In case of the GTR in this video the 0-300kph runs are in the range of 30s (maybe slightly below) (assuming a 4% deviation of the speedometer). This is fast. But not extremely fast. I would have thought that a motorbike that strong should be faster than 33s or so...
BTW, what hp output does this tuned GTR engine have?
800 HP according to http://www.switzerperformanceinnovation.com/products_nissan-gtr.html
Oct 2, 2009 12:51:38 PM
Oct 2, 2009 2:12:00 PM
Oct 2, 2009 7:16:41 PM
I know this car And this driver
Its Switzer P800
It's 24 secs to 0-300...
Faster than Hayabusa and Koenigsegg CCX
Also - we have started in this car with Latest SLR and the distance between us was more than 50 meters for 402 m....
Incredibly fast car- very close to Veyron up to 320 km/h
artur777:
I know this car And this driver
Its Switzer P800
It's 24 secs to 0-300...
Faster than Hayabusa and Koenigsegg CCX
Also - we have started in this car with Latest SLR and the distance between us was more than 50 meters for 402 m....
Incredibly fast car- very close to Veyron up to 320 km/h
The problem then is that the car in the video is much slower than the numbers you posted...
Just look at the timer when watching the video. This GTR is not even close to doing 0-300 in 24s in this video (I don't need to mention that 300kph on the speedo is not equivalent to 300 "real" kph )
MKSGR:
artur777:
I know this car And this driver
Its Switzer P800
It's 24 secs to 0-300...
Faster than Hayabusa and Koenigsegg CCX
Also - we have started in this car with Latest SLR and the distance between us was more than 50 meters for 402 m....
Incredibly fast car- very close to Veyron up to 320 km/h
The problem then is that the car in the video is much slower than the numbers you posted...
Just look at the timer when watching the video. This GTR is not even close to doing 0-300 in 24s in this video (I don't need to mention that 300kph on the speedo is not equivalent to 300 "real" kph )
Sorry ???
It is apparent from the video that 0-300km/h is around 20s. 3:46-4:06 (i hope i remember it right, i can not watch the video right now).
BTW GT-R is doing real 300km/h when speedo shows 308.
Oct 3, 2009 1:48:29 PM
artur777:
I know this car And this driver
Its Switzer P800
It's 24 secs to 0-300...
Faster than Hayabusa and Koenigsegg CCX
Also - we have started in this car with Latest SLR and the distance between us was more than 50 meters for 402 m....
Incredibly fast car- very close to Veyron up to 320 km/h
Then the guy on the bike doesn't know how to ride.
mv:
MKSGR:
artur777:
I know this car And this driver
Its Switzer P800
It's 24 secs to 0-300...
Faster than Hayabusa and Koenigsegg CCX
Also - we have started in this car with Latest SLR and the distance between us was more than 50 meters for 402 m....
Incredibly fast car- very close to Veyron up to 320 km/h
The problem then is that the car in the video is much slower than the numbers you posted...
Just look at the timer when watching the video. This GTR is not even close to doing 0-300 in 24s in this video (I don't need to mention that 300kph on the speedo is not equivalent to 300 "real" kph )
Sorry ???It is apparent from the video that 0-300km/h is around 20s. 3:46-4:06 (i hope i remember it right, i can not watch the video right now).
BTW GT-R is doing real 300km/h when speedo shows 308.
The car does 0-300 in about 30s. I got tired watching the video after the first three 0-300 runs...
The car in the video is light years away from a Veyron. A Veyron does 0-300 in about 17s. Not 30s.
Oct 3, 2009 5:35:12 PM
... this video is worthless for comparison purposes
(1) the guy in the bike is not launching even close to the potential of the bike, slow to react, very conservative at dumping the clutch, the front wheel does not even hit at raising even They should of done rolling starts instead given the circumstances.
(2) there is traffic in the way at times
(3) the road is wet/damp in some takes, big handicap for standing start launches on a bike with one wheel tractioning, small contact patch, danger of sliding/fliping, and no electronic aids... very different and a playstation launch control on an auto tranny with AWD. Good standing starts on bikes are very difficult but this guy is doing them very very conservatively.
(4) the guy in the bike does not maintain full throttle throughout all the gears, see #2
(5) this bike on a real drag race should leave this car looking like its standing still, we are talking around 15-16 secs to 300kmh as Joe well said, even if he screws up the launch the bike will slingshot past the car with ease, after 2nd gear (>200kmh) is very easy to accelerate at WOT
Just watch the speedo needle go on flat out throttle by an experience rider:
The GT-R was highly tunned, well just image if the Busa were Turboed just look at it still just fly above 180mph/300kmh
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Switzer P800 GT-R measured with V-box :
0-100 2,9
0-200 8,4
0-300 19,81
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrlM1Abbk5s&feature=player_embedded
mv:
Switzer P800 GT-R measured with V-box :
0-100 2,9
0-200 8,4
0-300 19,81http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrlM1Abbk5s&feature=player_embedded
Somehow it is obvious that the car in the above videos and the V-box data you posted do not match at all
MKSGR:
mv:
Switzer P800 GT-R measured with V-box :
0-100 2,9
0-200 8,4
0-300 19,81http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrlM1Abbk5s&feature=player_embedded
Somehow it is obvious that the car in the above videos and the V-box data you posted do not match at all
0-200km/h is around 8s thats obvious from the video.
0-300km/h is about 20s. I cant see any problem. That specific 0-300km/h run in 19,81 might not be in the video. There is just one run with a little lift-off at 290 with 0-303km/h(speedo) in 20s. Real 300km/h is at speedo 308km/h (verified by GPS). This car can certainly do that times I posted.
mv:
MKSGR:
mv:
Switzer P800 GT-R measured with V-box :
0-100 2,9
0-200 8,4
0-300 19,81http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrlM1Abbk5s&feature=player_embedded
Somehow it is obvious that the car in the above videos and the V-box data you posted do not match at all
0-200km/h is around 8s thats obvious from the video.
0-300km/h is about 20s. I cant see any problem. That specific 0-300km/h run in 19,81 might not be in the video. There is just one run with a little lift-off at 290 with 0-303km/h(speedo) in 20s. Real 300km/h is at speedo 308km/h (verified by GPS). This car can certainly do that times I posted.
Frankly, it is a bit difficult to follow your logic... Are you associated with this tuner or what is your intention? Stating that the car in the video did 0-300 in less than 20s is not credible
P.S.: I would even argue that it is physically impossible that a GTR with 800hp can achieve a 0-300 in less than 20s. A Ruf Rt12, for example, does 0-300 in about 25s with 700hp. However, we all know that the GTR is severely limited at high speeds given its poor CwxA coefficient.
I found the video as much as the figures - even if they are off "real" figures a bit migthy impressive - however, cannot believe
that the tranny , clutch or even cooling/engine can take this for long......why would OEM's not go for it themselves if it's so easy ?
If I recall correctly a veyron has 10 radiators....and took 600 Mio n years to develop - and others just bold on a few upgraded parts, increase pressure, new turbo's , chip , exhaust and off you go..... - also a friend taking his cars to the track regularly hasn't seen a GTR ever being a full day at it....? why ?