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Jul 21, 2008 6:44:44 PM

RC: Rennteam Administrator; Loc: Rennteam HQ , Germany; Posts: 59590, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 26, 2002; Reply to: LondonGuy

Re: 998 mule caught testing - launch 2011

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LondonGuy said:
http://www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsArticle/Porsche-911/234020/

Yeah, I'm sure they went to the drivers and asked them what car this is. *LOL*

It can be ANYTHING, Porsche is testing different versions all the time, it could be anything, a hybrid prototype, whatever.

I once saw a thinktank sketch of the 911 successor and it looked damned good, Think of a more flowing 911 shape and you may get an idea.
Don't expect anything extreme, the 911 is still the spearhead in Porsche's model line, especially since Cayenne sales dropped substantially and the success of the Panamera is still unclear.

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Jul 22, 2008 4:41:17 PM

MarekN: Pilot; Loc: Czech Republic; Posts: 409, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 7, 2006; Reply to: RC

Re: 998 mule caught testing - launch 2011

RC, maybe the Cayenne sales are dropping here, but I am sure Russia and China will take care of the leftovers. Why do you think the Cayenne is losing it? And to which car, if any?

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Jul 22, 2008 7:05:01 PM

Le Chef: Veteran; Loc: Chicago , United States; Posts: 1059, Gallery; Registered on: Jul 3, 2003; Reply to: MarekN

Cayenne

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MarekN said:
RC, maybe the Cayenne sales are dropping here, but I am sure Russia and China will take care of the leftovers. Why do you think the Cayenne is losing it? And to which car, if any?

It's not that any other vehicle is winning conquest sales from Cayenne, it's losing out because of high gas prices and the credit squeeze in U.S.

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Apr 1, 2009 5:15:24 AM

Ron (Houston): Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Houston, TX , United States; Posts: 8812, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 10, 2002; Reply to: Le Chef

Re: Cayenne

Click on images to enlarge.

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Apr 7, 2009 8:23:29 PM

Turbo4ever: Senior; Loc: HK , Hong Kong; Posts: 723, Gallery; Registered on: Sep 13, 2007; Reply to: Ron (Houston)

Re: Cayenne

I bet the new 991's headlights are not rounded, maybe something like the Panamera's headlights.

Any thoughts?

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Apr 7, 2009 8:56:13 PM

Joost: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Dordrecht , Netherlands; Posts: 8054, Gallery; Registered on: May 3, 2004; Reply to: Turbo4ever

Re: Cayenne

No, I think they will be round. They strayed from that once with the 996, and came back to round again with the 997. The headlights of the boxster/cayman and the panamera and cayenne are al derivates of the 996 shape.

By going back from 996 to 997 to the round shape, porsche sort of gave in to customer demand. I don't think they will make the same mistake again.

-Joost-

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Apr 13, 2009 2:08:22 PM

RC: Rennteam Administrator; Loc: Rennteam HQ , Germany; Posts: 59590, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 26, 2002; Reply to: Joost

Re: Cayenne

The 991 headlights are going to stay "classic" as far as I heard, whatever this means. My guess is: not much change compared to the 997. It would be a HUGE mistake if Porsche would go back to the 996 headlight design, this was one of the most criticized design flaws of the 996 series. The Porsche designers apparently tried to implement a more sophisticated "interior" design to the headlights, so the form is still roundly shaped but the "interior" is actually part of the whole design and looks.

As to the launch in 2011: it depends on when and IF the 997 Turbo facelift shows up. Currently Porsche seems to be very secretive about the 997 Turbo facelift and I don't quite understand why. Time will tell I guess.

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Apr 13, 2009 3:02:17 PM

Le Chef: Veteran; Loc: Chicago , United States; Posts: 1059, Gallery; Registered on: Jul 3, 2003; Reply to: RC

Re: Cayenne

The challenge for the 997TT facelift is whether it can thrash the Nissan GT-R comprehensively enough for there to be no argument.

I hope that Porsche sees the sense in keeping one of its "signature" design elements in the round headlights. The last thing we need is for the 911 to go all derivative again with fried eggs or slanty headlights. The round headlights can still be more "jewel" like without losing the design heritage.

I'm intrigued about whether Porsche will take some of the interior design from Panamera and graft that into 991. Lots to ponder.

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Apr 13, 2009 5:17:44 PM

intouch1: Rennteam Master; Loc: Red Sea , Egypt; Posts: 5752, Gallery; Registered on: May 22, 2004; Reply to: Le Chef

Re: Cayenne

the 991 surely will have a vertu interior as well.

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Apr 14, 2009 4:26:48 PM

andrea: Rennteam Master; Loc: Italy, Pordenone , Italy; Posts: 3569, Gallery; Registered on: Sep 24, 2003; Reply to: RC

Re: Cayenne

RC:

The 991 headlights are going to stay "classic" as far as I heard, whatever this means. My guess is: not much change compared to the 997. It would be a HUGE mistake if Porsche would go back to the 996 headlight design, this was one of the most criticized design flaws of the 996 series. The Porsche designers apparently tried to implement a more sophisticated "interior" design to the headlights, so the form is still roundly shaped but the "interior" is actually part of the whole design and looks.

As to the launch in 2011: it depends on when and IF the 997 Turbo facelift shows up. Currently Porsche seems to be very secretive about the 997 Turbo facelift and I don't quite understand why. Time will tell I guess.

i have this info:

no more orders acceptable for current 997 turbo

from fall 09 turbo facelift

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Apr 15, 2009 6:39:51 PM

Turbo4ever: Senior; Loc: HK , Hong Kong; Posts: 723, Gallery; Registered on: Sep 13, 2007; Reply to: andrea

Re: Cayenne

when will the 998 turbo come out?

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Apr 15, 2009 7:37:43 PM

intouch1: Rennteam Master; Loc: Red Sea , Egypt; Posts: 5752, Gallery; Registered on: May 22, 2004; Reply to: Turbo4ever

Re: Cayenne

2011/12

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Apr 16, 2009 6:43:57 AM

Lars997: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: South , Germany; Posts: 9448, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 8, 2002; Reply to: intouch1

Re: Cayenne

I guess the presentation will be Frankfurt IAA September 2011.

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Aug 11, 2009 8:56:07 PM

turbo_S: Co-Pilot; Loc: kuwait , Kuwait; Posts: 272, Gallery; Registered on: Sep 1, 2005; Reply to: Lars997

Re: Cayenne

993,996,997............999 .. then ? what could be more probable ?

Who knows !!! maybe " with regard to the gap of performance and VW chairs in the board , dont worry , i`ve concidered that :

carrera = "beetle super sport"

turbo = "beetle super ultra sport turbo"

GT2 = "beetle magnificent unbelievable super super super racing 2"

guys , Its too early to speculate as that far ... its hard time for porsche , just pray for it .

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Aug 11, 2009 10:55:10 PM

devo: Veteran; Loc: NY , United States; Posts: 1107, Gallery; Registered on: Jan 31, 2006; Reply to: turbo_S

Re: Cayenne

Probably mid to late 2012 as a MY2013 for the turbo. I would doubt any sooner, however, maybe a year later.

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Aug 14, 2009 3:37:32 AM

da duke: Newbie; Loc: Queenstown , New Zealand; Posts: 44, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 3, 2006; Reply to: devo

Re: Cayenne

Well I can see now that the Pictures that Ron Houston pasted earlier in April are in fact --pictures of the new 997.2 Turbo

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Aug 14, 2009 8:45:13 AM

Rossi: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Home , Germany; Posts: 12681, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 11, 2002; Reply to: da duke

Re: Cayenne

da duke:

Well I can see now that the Pictures that Ron Houston pasted earlier in April are in fact --pictures of the new 997.2 Turbo

Stricltyl offtopic: I really like your avatar. Smiley

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Aug 19, 2009 1:59:18 AM

Ron (Houston): Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Houston, TX , United States; Posts: 8812, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 10, 2002; Reply to: Lars997

Re: Cayenne

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Aug 19, 2009 2:48:37 AM

DaveC: Veteran; Loc: FL, USA , United States; Posts: 1068, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 16, 2005; Reply to: Ron (Houston)

Re: Cayenne

Does seem to fall into the evolutionary rather than revolutionary category, wouldn't you say?

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Aug 19, 2009 1:23:10 PM

917962: Pilot; Loc: NY , United States; Posts: 444, Gallery; Registered on: Oct 28, 2008; Reply to: DaveC

Re: Cayenne

I sure hope they discard those fog lights. It would look much cleaner without them.

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Aug 19, 2009 11:09:09 PM

Enzo II: Veteran; Loc: Spain , Spain; Posts: 1248, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 1, 2006; Reply to: 917962

Re: Cayenne

Interior

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Aug 20, 2009 12:39:46 AM

Ron (Houston): Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Houston, TX , United States; Posts: 8812, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 10, 2002; Reply to: Enzo II

Re: Cayenne

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Aug 20, 2009 12:54:12 AM

Atzporsche: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Vancouver , Canada; Posts: 9118, Gallery; Registered on: Feb 7, 2005; Reply to: Ron (Houston)

Re: Cayenne

looks promising, but body panels and interior is 997 so they are just testing chassis, suspension and drivetrain.

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Aug 20, 2009 7:00:57 AM

Rossi: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Home , Germany; Posts: 12681, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 11, 2002; Reply to: Atzporsche

Re: Cayenne

Atzporsche:

looks promising, but body panels and interior is 997 so they are just testing chassis, suspension and drivetrain.

But why should they cover the interior, if it's from a 997? Smiley

Couldn't it be that they're just very similar? Smiley

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Aug 20, 2009 7:25:45 AM

intouch1: Rennteam Master; Loc: Red Sea , Egypt; Posts: 5752, Gallery; Registered on: May 22, 2004; Reply to: Rossi

Re: Cayenne

there are buttons on the center console. just like panamera and new cayenne.....they seem to have hired vertu designers

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Aug 20, 2009 9:32:17 AM

Enzo II: Veteran; Loc: Spain , Spain; Posts: 1248, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 1, 2006; Reply to: Atzporsche

Re: Cayenne

Atzporsche:

looks promising, but body panels and interior is 997 so they are just testing chassis, suspension and drivetrain.

Smiley

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Aug 21, 2009 9:24:10 AM

neunelf: Senior; Loc: Switzerland; Posts: 610, Gallery; Registered on: Nov 4, 2003; Reply to: Rossi

Re: Cayenne

But why should they cover the interior, if it's from a 997?

Couldn't it be that they're just very similar?

I think it's typical for Porsche: they cover the interior and the exterior even though they will be impossible to distinguish for anyone but Porschephiles

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Aug 21, 2009 9:32:48 AM

intouch1: Rennteam Master; Loc: Red Sea , Egypt; Posts: 5752, Gallery; Registered on: May 22, 2004; Reply to: neunelf

Re: Cayenne

the area in front of the shifter looks very different.

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Aug 21, 2009 9:37:10 AM

Lars997: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: South , Germany; Posts: 9448, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 8, 2002; Reply to: intouch1

Re: Cayenne

intouch1:

the area in front of the shifter looks very different.

Exactly! Looks a bit like in the Panamera and future Cayenne!

Very promissing Smiley

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Oct 27, 2009 9:23:58 PM

dbz: Junior; Loc: Leeds, Yorkshire, UK; Posts: 89, Gallery; Registered on: Jan 7, 2005; Reply to: Lars997

Re: Cayenne

Wonder if there's a duck tail spoiler under the black pastic rear? (the Carrera Sport Classic certainly got a lot of praise here in the UK, for its retro looks)

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