Crown

this is really weird, a photoshop artifact? 

i will be there for sure(to see the new RS also)...but dont know which days

Ron (Houston):

Yeah, that's it. ................Maybe it's a front license plate mount?? Pull off the horsey, drill a hole in the plate & screw the horsey back on, bingo!  

Dunno, it must not look like that in person,  but obviously someone at Ferrari would have modified the pics then right because like always new models from Ferrari come out as computer type pics & not actual photographs. Dont know what to make of it. But small detail considering the big picture, imho the car is sick. Seems they've gone OPPOSITE of many makes like Lambo, etc. which emphasize the need for fresh air into the engine bay/ cooling areas with big scoops that stick outside the lines of the car.  Especially like the way they found ways of concealing the vents in the rear quarter window and they came up with a brand new, way of ventilating engine heat with those large vents on top/ out back but within the lines of the car. Leave it to Ferrari to turn function into design flair!   
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Gregg it is a license plate mount. I believe the Horse was placed there for PR pictures.

I anticipate orders will be taken by US dealers in early 2010 with first delivery in May or June. I order my 430 coupe six months after the September unveiling and got my car in May. I suspect the time table will be the same with the 458.

BTW I still predict a base price of 235-250,000.

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Rossi:

STRADALE:

SciFrog:

I don't see how it would be less than $40k over the California. It has 120 more hp...

 

But you also have to account for Cali = Convertible vs 458 Coupe.

But you could be right, my $30k - $50k more than the Cali, the $30k could be too conservative. $40-$50k more vs Cali is probably going to be more accurate.

When will we know again? September???

It will be announced at Frankfurt, that would be September, yes.
 

Thanks Stefan!

Did I read something about it being offered first in Europe???

If so do you know when dealers typically start placing customer spec'd orders w/ the factory? I forget is it right away after the September launch? And does anyone know when it would be available in the US?  I like to wait for the 2nd year, not so much because of 1st year gremlins although I think there is something to that in terms of build quality but because I like to see how other cars look spec'd & get used to what options work, etc & usually there are more options available after the 2nd year.    

Talked to my dealer. As it looks now, delivery here in Europe should start around February. Of course if something comes in between, this could be delayed, but currently they are expecting the first quarter of 2010 for the first cars. No word about the amount of cars yet. Talk about US getting first cars late in 2010 comes from Fchat, don't know if this is true.

Speccing the car will be possible right after Frankfurt.
 

The secret of life is to admire without desiring.

STRADALE:

Ron (Houston):

 

Yeah, that's it. ................Maybe it's a front license plate mount?? Pull off the horsey, drill a hole in the plate & screw the horsey back on, bingo!  
 

Or perhaps it is retractable like the Spirit of Ectasy? 

The secret of life is to admire without desiring.

3D horsey, for more brand exposure! Soon to be seen on all the emblems!

I kid, I kid! license plate mound I agree. For that special license plate frame that costs only 159€ and is available through your local dealer... don't forget to circle that option, more pricier if you order it extra... (anti recession measures, right...)

nberry:

Gregg it is a license plate mount. I believe the Horse was placed there for PR pictures.

I anticipate orders will be taken by US dealers in early 2010 with first delivery in May or June. I order my 430 coupe six months after the September unveiling and got my car in May. I suspect the time table will be the same with the 458.

BTW I still predict a base price of 235-250,000.

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Thanks for the time table.

I was only kidding. Really??? Hopefully it's not something that has to come with the car, anyone putting a license plate frame on the front of this car deserves a pricey ticket.

08 PORSCHE Turbo Cabriolet, 06 Ferrari F430,  04 Durango HEMI,  04 Harley Davidson Screamin Eagle,  93 Harley Davidson Nostalgia

Rossi:

STRADALE:

Rossi:

STRADALE:

SciFrog:

I don't see how it would be less than $40k over the California. It has 120 more hp...

 

But you also have to account for Cali = Convertible vs 458 Coupe.

But you could be right, my $30k - $50k more than the Cali, the $30k could be too conservative. $40-$50k more vs Cali is probably going to be more accurate.

When will we know again? September???

It will be announced at Frankfurt, that would be September, yes.
 

Thanks Stefan!

Did I read something about it being offered first in Europe???

If so do you know when dealers typically start placing customer spec'd orders w/ the factory? I forget is it right away after the September launch? And does anyone know when it would be available in the US?  I like to wait for the 2nd year, not so much because of 1st year gremlins although I think there is something to that in terms of build quality but because I like to see how other cars look spec'd & get used to what options work, etc & usually there are more options available after the 2nd year.    

Talked to my dealer. As it looks now, delivery here in Europe should start around February. Of course if something comes in between, this could be delayed, but currently they are expecting the first quarter of 2010 for the first cars. No word about the amount of cars yet. Talk about US getting first cars late in 2010 comes from Fchat, don't know if this is true.

Speccing the car will be possible right after Frankfurt.
 

So  that would mean Feb cars would be 2010's? Late in 2010 (after August factory shut down) built cars  would be 2011's yes????

Besides the steering wheel/ drivers side dash are there any other interior pics? I have a feeling the interior is going to be crazy. (in a good way)...

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janus:

I kid, I kid! license plate mound I agree. For that special license plate frame that costs only 159€ and is available through your local dealer... don't forget to circle that option, more pricier if you order it extra... (anti recession measures, right...)

That's rather cheap, isn't it?Better to get two of them...

The secret of life is to admire without desiring.

STRADALE:

nberry:

Gregg it is a license plate mount. I believe the Horse was placed there for PR pictures.

I anticipate orders will be taken by US dealers in early 2010 with first delivery in May or June. I order my 430 coupe six months after the September unveiling and got my car in May. I suspect the time table will be the same with the 458.

BTW I still predict a base price of 235-250,000.

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Thanks for the time table.

I was only kidding. Really??? Hopefully it's not something that has to come with the car, anyone putting a license plate frame on the front of this car deserves a pricey ticket.

In some countries (actually in most European countries) unfortunately that is an obligation.

(in Italy as well BTW)

The secret of life is to admire without desiring.

STRADALE:

Rossi:

STRADALE:

Rossi:

STRADALE:

SciFrog:

I don't see how it would be less than $40k over the California. It has 120 more hp...

 

But you also have to account for Cali = Convertible vs 458 Coupe.

But you could be right, my $30k - $50k more than the Cali, the $30k could be too conservative. $40-$50k more vs Cali is probably going to be more accurate.

When will we know again? September???

It will be announced at Frankfurt, that would be September, yes.
 

Thanks Stefan!

Did I read something about it being offered first in Europe???

If so do you know when dealers typically start placing customer spec'd orders w/ the factory? I forget is it right away after the September launch? And does anyone know when it would be available in the US?  I like to wait for the 2nd year, not so much because of 1st year gremlins although I think there is something to that in terms of build quality but because I like to see how other cars look spec'd & get used to what options work, etc & usually there are more options available after the 2nd year.    

Talked to my dealer. As it looks now, delivery here in Europe should start around February. Of course if something comes in between, this could be delayed, but currently they are expecting the first quarter of 2010 for the first cars. No word about the amount of cars yet. Talk about US getting first cars late in 2010 comes from Fchat, don't know if this is true.

Speccing the car will be possible right after Frankfurt.
 

 

So  that would mean Feb cars would be 2010's? Late in 2010 (after August factory shut down) built cars  would be 2011's yes????

Besides the steering wheel/ drivers side dash are there any other interior pics? I have a feeling the interior is going to be crazy. (in a good way)...

AFAIK the interior pic is the only one so far.

I have the same feelings about the new interior. Totally new approach with a totally new operation concept, a thing that will fit perfectly to the gorgeous new exterior styling.
 

The secret of life is to admire without desiring.

Rossi:

STRADALE:

nberry:

Gregg it is a license plate mount. I believe the Horse was placed there for PR pictures.

I anticipate orders will be taken by US dealers in early 2010 with first delivery in May or June. I order my 430 coupe six months after the September unveiling and got my car in May. I suspect the time table will be the same with the 458.

BTW I still predict a base price of 235-250,000.

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Thanks for the time table.

I was only kidding. Really??? Hopefully it's not something that has to come with the car, anyone putting a license plate frame on the front of this car deserves a pricey ticket.

In some countries (actually in most European countries) unfortunately that is an obligation.

(in Italy as well BTW)

Same here.

But maybe not as strict as there, they definitely don't just pull you over for front plate everytime but it can happen. If you get a plate ticket here it's not points on your license, it's called an "equipment violation" so it's only a small fine.  In NY you can get the ticket wiped clean by showing up at a police station showing the plate is now on the front or just pay the ticket. I haven't had a front plate on either one of my sports cars for the last 8 yrs. I just cant do it.

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Rossi:

STRADALE:

Rossi:

STRADALE:

Rossi:

STRADALE:

SciFrog:

I don't see how it would be less than $40k over the California. It has 120 more hp...

 

But you also have to account for Cali = Convertible vs 458 Coupe.

But you could be right, my $30k - $50k more than the Cali, the $30k could be too conservative. $40-$50k more vs Cali is probably going to be more accurate.

When will we know again? September???

It will be announced at Frankfurt, that would be September, yes.
 

Thanks Stefan!

Did I read something about it being offered first in Europe???

If so do you know when dealers typically start placing customer spec'd orders w/ the factory? I forget is it right away after the September launch? And does anyone know when it would be available in the US?  I like to wait for the 2nd year, not so much because of 1st year gremlins although I think there is something to that in terms of build quality but because I like to see how other cars look spec'd & get used to what options work, etc & usually there are more options available after the 2nd year.    

Talked to my dealer. As it looks now, delivery here in Europe should start around February. Of course if something comes in between, this could be delayed, but currently they are expecting the first quarter of 2010 for the first cars. No word about the amount of cars yet. Talk about US getting first cars late in 2010 comes from Fchat, don't know if this is true.

Speccing the car will be possible right after Frankfurt.
 

 

So  that would mean Feb cars would be 2010's? Late in 2010 (after August factory shut down) built cars  would be 2011's yes????

Besides the steering wheel/ drivers side dash are there any other interior pics? I have a feeling the interior is going to be crazy. (in a good way)...

AFAIK the interior pic is the only one so far.

I have the same feelings about the new interior. Totally new approach with a totally new operation concept, a thing that will fit perfectly to the gorgeous new exterior styling.
 

I'd love to see seats similar to the seats in the 599 HGTE but more futuristic looking. They should be more  towards the sports seats & less like the standard seats in the F430 but with more adjustability.  Looks like they're raising the bar again. Great to have something to talk about again.........

Got this invite just now/ sounds like fun. I'll take some pics

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Rossi:

STRADALE:

Rossi:

STRADALE:

Rossi:

STRADALE:

SciFrog:

I don't see how it would be less than $40k over the California. It has 120 more hp...

 

But you also have to account for Cali = Convertible vs 458 Coupe.

But you could be right, my $30k - $50k more than the Cali, the $30k could be too conservative. $40-$50k more vs Cali is probably going to be more accurate.

When will we know again? September???

It will be announced at Frankfurt, that would be September, yes.
 

Thanks Stefan!

Did I read something about it being offered first in Europe???

If so do you know when dealers typically start placing customer spec'd orders w/ the factory? I forget is it right away after the September launch? And does anyone know when it would be available in the US?  I like to wait for the 2nd year, not so much because of 1st year gremlins although I think there is something to that in terms of build quality but because I like to see how other cars look spec'd & get used to what options work, etc & usually there are more options available after the 2nd year.    

Talked to my dealer. As it looks now, delivery here in Europe should start around February. Of course if something comes in between, this could be delayed, but currently they are expecting the first quarter of 2010 for the first cars. No word about the amount of cars yet. Talk about US getting first cars late in 2010 comes from Fchat, don't know if this is true.

Speccing the car will be possible right after Frankfurt.
 

 

So  that would mean Feb cars would be 2010's? Late in 2010 (after August factory shut down) built cars  would be 2011's yes????

Besides the steering wheel/ drivers side dash are there any other interior pics? I have a feeling the interior is going to be crazy. (in a good way)...

AFAIK the interior pic is the only one so far.

I have the same feelings about the new interior. Totally new approach with a totally new operation concept, a thing that will fit perfectly to the gorgeous new exterior styling.
 

Fully agree with you Stefan!
 

I like new interior as well, perfect with awsome exterior...

Now, Rosso Corsa E Nero or Grigio Titanio E Nero

KresoF1:

Fully agree with you Stefan!
 

I like new interior as well, perfect with awsome exterior...

Now, Rosso Corsa E Nero or Grigio Titanio E Nero

You can't go wrong with rosso/nero. Actually I'm thinking of a darker shade of rosso, like rosso mugello with cuoio interior for example.

Thoughts?
 

The secret of life is to admire without desiring.

Rossi:

KresoF1:

Fully agree with you Stefan!
 

I like new interior as well, perfect with awsome exterior...

Now, Rosso Corsa E Nero or Grigio Titanio E Nero

You can't go wrong with rosso/nero. Actually I'm thinking of a darker shade of rosso, like rosso mugello with cuoio interior for example.

Thoughts?
 

Have you thought about the new red as shown on the 599 HGTE press car? It is darker than Rosso Corsa, not substantially darker but noticeably darker.

Ziggy:

Rossi:

KresoF1:

Fully agree with you Stefan!
 

I like new interior as well, perfect with awsome exterior...

Now, Rosso Corsa E Nero or Grigio Titanio E Nero

You can't go wrong with rosso/nero. Actually I'm thinking of a darker shade of rosso, like rosso mugello with cuoio interior for example.

Thoughts?
 

Have you thought about the new red as shown on the 599 HGTE press car? It is darker than Rosso Corsa, not substantially darker but noticeably darker.

Could it be that this is rosso mugello? 
 

The secret of life is to admire without desiring.

Rossi:

Ziggy:

Rossi:

KresoF1:

Fully agree with you Stefan!
 

I like new interior as well, perfect with awsome exterior...

Now, Rosso Corsa E Nero or Grigio Titanio E Nero

You can't go wrong with rosso/nero. Actually I'm thinking of a darker shade of rosso, like rosso mugello with cuoio interior for example.

Thoughts?
 

Have you thought about the new red as shown on the 599 HGTE press car? It is darker than Rosso Corsa, not substantially darker but noticeably darker.

Could it be that this is rosso mugello? 
 

 I think hes talking about nuovo rosso corsa 

Personally, I love the color! 

Funny that all the Color P shops found their way to Auto Motor Sport homepage.

Check it out:

www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/service/ferrari-458-italia-die-schoensten-farben-fuer-den-458-italia-1374216.html

assman!!!:

Rossi:

Ziggy:

Rossi:

KresoF1:

Fully agree with you Stefan!
 

I like new interior as well, perfect with awsome exterior...

Now, Rosso Corsa E Nero or Grigio Titanio E Nero

You can't go wrong with rosso/nero. Actually I'm thinking of a darker shade of rosso, like rosso mugello with cuoio interior for example.

Thoughts?
 

Have you thought about the new red as shown on the 599 HGTE press car? It is darker than Rosso Corsa, not substantially darker but noticeably darker.

Could it be that this is rosso mugello? 
 

 I think hes talking about nuovo rosso corsa 

Personally, I love the color! 

It's nice but I not gonna pay a 15k premium for a colour.
 

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The secret of life is to admire without desiring.

Here is a 430 in rosso mugello against a rosso corsa 430.

ISUK:

Here is a 430 in rosso mugello against a rosso corsa 430.

Thanks ISUK, that could be of some help.

After I've seen the pics, I'm not that sure about rosso mugello...
 

The secret of life is to admire without desiring.

Avoe:

Funny that all the Color P shops found their way to Auto Motor Sport homepage.

Check it out:

www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/service/ferrari-458-italia-die-schoensten-farben-fuer-den-458-italia-1374216.html

I was amazed when saw this copy, too.

Who has the original idea?? Rennteam forum or AMS ??

ONUR

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Rossi:

ISUK:

Here is a 430 in rosso mugello against a rosso corsa 430.

Thanks ISUK, that could be of some help.

After I've seen the pics, I'm not that sure about rosso mugello...
 

Rosso Fiorano then?  If you are looking for some pics, go to Google and then type "Cristiano Ronaldo" and "wrecked 599 GTB".  

pride355:

Avoe:

Funny that all the Color P shops found their way to Auto Motor Sport homepage.

Check it out:

www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/service/ferrari-458-italia-die-schoensten-farben-fuer-den-458-italia-1374216.html

I was amazed when saw this copy, too.

Who has the original idea?? Rennteam forum or AMS ??

I think it was Fchat?
 

The secret of life is to admire without desiring.

Another pair of rosso mugello cars Rossi. Like the cherry it's named after it's a fairly dark red.

Regards,

Iain

 IMO rosso corsa looks better.