Apr 20, 2009 12:20:39 PM
This are great new pictures! Amazing how much camo there is on top. I still dont believe that we will see a hard-roof, Ii'm convinced that the soft just got more hard framing underneath as before.
I'm wondering what they hide underneath that rear. All of the Mules have this enormous spoiler. Is it just the new extandable and foldable spoiler underneat why they make just a hype around it?
The rear is so much longer, isnt it?
And - what is this on top of the tyre?
The perfectly stretched roof is suspicious of what lies beneath!
Also I've read somewhere something about active aerodynamics so perhaps more extendable parts. Not to the Veyron extent but perhaps more than the foldable spoiler.
Apr 20, 2009 3:12:04 PM
Lars997:
This are great new pictures! Amazing how much camo there is on top. I still dont believe that we will see a hard-roof, Ii'm convinced that the soft just got more hard framing underneath as before.
I'm wondering what they hide underneath that rear. All of the Mules have this enormous spoiler. Is it just the new extandable and foldable spoiler underneat why they make just a hype around it?
The rear is so much longer, isnt it?
And - what is this on top of the tyre?
maybe an electronic- sensor...used to control something...
nick1:
maybe its not the Turbo? I mean it might be to early to Test the Turbo, since it normally comes out later in the Model cycle. Also the side vents are fake. Maybe its just the next 911?
It is not the Turbo
Some soloporsche.com forumers saw it last week:
There is no metal folding roof on that car, it's all cloth. Given the complexicty of the up coming aerodynamic spoiler at the back + the engine + super chargers, there is no room for a folding metal roof. The roof of an SL folded down eats up the majority of the boot space and granted that the 911 has a longer roof, it would need a monsterously large rear end to accomodate a metal cabrio roof.
Apr 21, 2009 8:58:11 PM
Apr 22, 2009 12:28:31 AM
Guys, the soft top looks to me like a standard 911 cab soft top, simply not many times opened and closed, hence the lack of significant crease lines, but a standard 911 cab soft top nevertheless.
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Apr 22, 2009 3:33:57 PM
Apr 22, 2009 3:36:34 PM
Ron (Houston):
Thanks for the post Joost
If Porsche really manages a metal hard roof to be fitted in the little space in the back of a 911, that would be break through.
Perhaps this is for the forthcoming Panamera convertible. Would make the a$$ just a little bit fatter.
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Apr 22, 2009 3:41:35 PM
Rossi:
Ron (Houston):
Thanks for the post Joost
If Porsche really manages a metal hard roof to be fitted in the little space in the back of a 911, that would be break through.
Perhaps this is for the forthcoming Panamera convertible. Would make the a$$ just a little bit fatter.
Rossi, After looking at these elongated 911 spy shots and the rumor of 928 resurrection I kind of wonder if these test mules are in fact the 2-door Panamera in disguise?
Apr 22, 2009 3:57:33 PM
Ron (Houston):
Rossi:
Ron (Houston):
Thanks for the post Joost
If Porsche really manages a metal hard roof to be fitted in the little space in the back of a 911, that would be break through.
Perhaps this is for the forthcoming Panamera convertible. Would make the a$$ just a little bit fatter.
Rossi, After looking at these elongated 911 spy shots and the rumor of 928 resurrection I kind of wonder if these test mules are in fact the 2-door Panamera in disguise?
RC was right?(and it would be not the frist time..) but it seems to much a 911 to be a Panamera..
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Apr 22, 2009 4:04:46 PM
Joost, EXCELTENT CATCH!!!
I read the whole document and checked the drawings. This is clearly a Carrera roof. And if you see how close it folds together its amazing.
So finally we will see a foldable hardroof on the new 911. Question is, if it will be covered with textile or not. But anyhow, this thing will be so light, that you really have to question if you are going for a Coupe or a Convertible.
GREAT NEWS!
Apr 22, 2009 4:15:19 PM
Super Darius:
Ron (Houston):
Rossi:
Ron (Houston):
Thanks for the post Joost
If Porsche really manages a metal hard roof to be fitted in the little space in the back of a 911, that would be break through.
Perhaps this is for the forthcoming Panamera convertible. Would make the a$$ just a little bit fatter.
Rossi, After looking at these elongated 911 spy shots and the rumor of 928 resurrection I kind of wonder if these test mules are in fact the 2-door Panamera in disguise?RC was right?(and it would be not the frist time..) but it seems to much a 911 to be a Panamera..
If this is the Panamera Coupe I'll eat my computer
Apr 22, 2009 5:53:45 PM
Apr 22, 2009 8:14:14 PM
hehe, Lars, exelTENT is not the word anymore, now the cloth is gone, is it?!? :D
However, neunelf's post has got me thinking... the lines don't seem to match. However, the rather sharp bend right to the number 54 looks to be a result of the shape of one of the panels, not a result of the driving mechanism, so it still could be.
When you read the text, it seems like the patent is filed back in '06... does it really take THAT long to develop? When did the 997 and the 997 mk2 come out?
Edit:
If you read the below section, it seems (only) to be a way of keeping the flexible plastic rear window in desired shape, so no wrinkles or folds. However, it does mention that the roof can be either colth or hard material.:
"In this context, the folding top is understood as meaning a top in which at least some roof sections are manufactured from a foldable material, for example a fabric, which is kept in the desired shape with the aid of the top linkage. Individual roof sections can also have a fixed, in particular, shell-like configuration, the shell or parts thereof being composed of metal, plastic or else of glass or another transparent material."
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