Rossi:
Ron (Houston):
The problem is if it malfunctions and doesn't retract the sides when it goes back it will scratch the hell of the paint on the sides.
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Happy Driving
Question is, does a car like the Panamera really need such a "thing"?
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The secret of life is to admire without desiring.
All fast cars with a sloping rear need a spoiler to reduce lift or a wing to produce downforce.
Think of the original Audi TT. They had to hastily fit that little spoiler just after production started because of high speed stability problems.
Rossi:
Ron (Houston):
The problem is if it malfunctions and doesn't retract the sides when it goes back it will scratch the hell of the paint on the sides.
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Happy Driving
Question is, does a car like the Panamera really need such a "thing"?
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The secret of life is to admire without desiring.
Yes, it does. On the other hand just imagine that Porsche would have given the Panamera a FIXED wing. Ouch. I'm already waiting for those who demand a fixed wing or who are asking for the availability of a Panamera aerokit.
Porsche needed to introduce the Panamera, it was the right decision. The only problem I have with this decision is SIZE, DESIGN, TIMING of introduction and PRICE TAG.
Oh well...what do I know...the Cayenne wasn't a beauty queen either and had huge success. I still think that the time isn't right for the Cayenne, it is a HUGE limousine and I can't really see who would buy this in the current economy but maybe Wiedeking and his gang are lucky and the economy recovers much faster in China but I somehow have my doubts about it.
Mar 10, 2009 7:09:11 PM
My feelilngs are:
PRO's: performance and expected handling, interior design and build.
CON's: its ridiculously butt ugly, huge, pricey, and holds only TWO seats in the rear!
Will it sell, yes, even if its just for the badge alone it will sell, but nothing close to the Cayenne when it was introduced. I don't see that many potential customers for it as the Cayenne had in its day. But who knows...
Mar 10, 2009 7:18:10 PM
According to my info it really does. That speaks also about aerodynamics little bit... Over 300km/h is not achieved that easy. Pana Turbo needs that ricer like spoiler to produce needed downforce at over 260km/h...
P.S.
Saw California today in Grigio Titanio with 20" and chocolato interier. I really hate to say this-I like it. And sound is truly great...
Misha011:
ed_moree , you like Panamera in this color (me too) - it's amazing how much different she looks from picture to picture .
Thanks Misha! Yes a colour that looks modern and classic in the same time!!! It has a shape that it is very interesting, because depending on the place you stay when looking at it, it looks very nice or a bit heavy. In this two pictures I like it in both!
Rossi:Ok here is mine: exactly 19995/ year ! I mean no more and no less than that, but because they have been used with the succes of the Cayenne, Porsche will say that it is not enough!
Misha011:
My prediction is , that 20 000 Panameras will be sold in less than 12 months
Alright my turn: less than 8.000 Panamera a year.
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Mar 12, 2009 9:13:00 AM
Rossi:
Topaz Brown again, better pic.
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Rossi , thank you for pic. , very very nice color for Panamera - sort of "Great Gatsby" look . Personally , I would go for it .
Wheel (s) on pics. below are 20" 255/40 x 20 ttl. dia. 712 mm side wall 102 mm
To maintain ttl. dia. of 712 mm 255/35 x 21 711 mm 89.25 mm
255/30 x 22 713 mm 76.5 mm ???? ride/comfort
ed_moree:
Rossi:Please guys... not again that colour!... It is soo old and so grand dad´s days time colour!!!
Topaz Brown again, better pic.
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The secret of life is to admire without desiring.
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Ohh , ed_moree - you will get gray hair prematurely
" ALL PORSCHE ARE REAL PORSCHE - except those in Topaz Brown metalic "
Misha011:
ed_moree:
Rossi:Please guys... not again that colour!... It is soo old and so grand dad´s days time colour!!!
Topaz Brown again, better pic.
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The secret of life is to admire without desiring.
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ALL PORSCHE ARE REAL PORSCHE!!!Ohh , ed_moree - you will get gray hair prematurely
" ALL PORSCHE ARE REAL PORSCHE - except those in Topaz Brown metalic "
something like this:
"yes sun, I´ve just got a nice brown...Panamera!!!!"
And all this it will be your fault and Rossi´s for posting this old...old colour...for such a nice car..
Keep doing it. I don´t care! but I will start a new thread where all topaz brown Panameras will be banned...
Rossi:
ed_moree:
And all this it will be your fault and Rossi´s for posting this old...old colour...for such a nice car..
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ALL PORSCHE ARE REAL PORSCHE!!!
Well, I can live with that. Perfectly.
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The secret of life is to admire without desiring.
with what buying the Panamera in that colour? Please don´t do it!!!