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Nov 1, 2008 5:11:56 PM

Emperor: Veteran; Loc: London & Gothenburg; Posts: 1013, Gallery; Registered on: Jan 6, 2006; Reply to: easy_rider911

Re: Brazilian F1 Grand Prix in Sao Paulo

Exciting qualification. Massa and Hamilton are pretty much equally as fast. With 80% chance of rain tomorrow Mclaren probably decided not to go too light in the event of safety car getting deployed. It's always beneficial with some extra fuel allowing you to be out a bit longer trying to outplay the weather. Trulli was a major surprise, he came from nowhere. Pretty much ever site I visit predict rain for tomorrow. So I suspect there's going to be some nice surprises tomorrow. Almost like in Monaco where Ferrari fought hard to lock the front row but got caught badly in the rain.

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Nov 1, 2008 5:31:40 PM

Eunice: Rennteam Administrator; Loc: Karlsruhe , Germany; Posts: 6155, Gallery; Registered on: Oct 27, 2008; Reply to: ResB

Re: Brazilian F1 Grand Prix in Sao Paulo

The table:

I guess HAM will be playing it safe and just try to bring it home. With his car, he really should be able to finish on p5.

No big chance for rain though, a few drops at most.

1	Massa, Felipe	1:12.368
2	Trulli, Jarno	+ 0.369
3	Räikkönen, Kimi	+ 0.457
4	Hamilton, Lewis	+ 0.462
5	Kovalainen, Heikki	+ 0.549
6	Alonso, Fernando	+ 0.599
7	Vettel, Sebastian	+ 0.714
8	Heidfeld, Nick	+ 0.929
9	Bourdais, Sebastien	+ 1.737
10	Glock, Timo	+ 1.862
11	Piquet jr, Nelson	- 0.231
12	Webber, Mark	- 0.079
13	Kubica, Robert	- 0.068
14	Coulthard, David	+ 0.349
15	Barrichello, Rubens	+ 0.771
16	Nakajima, Kazuki	+ 0.432
17	Button, Jenson	+ 0.442
18	Rosberg, Nico	+ 0.634
19	Fisichella, Giancarlo	+ 1.058
20	Sutil, Adrian	+ 1.140

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Nov 1, 2008 5:41:23 PM

reginos: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Nicosia , Cyprus; Posts: 12130, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 20, 2005; Reply to: Eunice

Re: Brazilian F1 Grand Prix in Sao Paulo

I expect that Alonso from P6, will want to throw a spanner in HAM's works.

He will start by attempting to overtake both McLarens at the start.

It will be a very long GP tomorrow.

Another problem with the british press and public is that they destabilise situations with wrong priorities.

Whilst the task at hand is the title, they are preoccupied by racism and all these idiocies some people put up on the internet!!!

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Nov 1, 2008 5:47:10 PM

Emperor: Veteran; Loc: London & Gothenburg; Posts: 1013, Gallery; Registered on: Jan 6, 2006; Reply to: Emperor

Re: Brazilian F1 Grand Prix in Sao Paulo

I'm not surprised Ferrari went very light. For Massa it's either all or nothing and in trying to leech the WDC of Hamilton a pole was pretty compulsory.

On the other hands I'm appauled by the racit behaviour of the Brzilian and Spanish fans. They were very disrespectful to Hamilton's father when he was displayed on the screen, and last year huligans were lined up outside Hamilton's hotel in Brazil making disturbing sounds in an ttempt to deprive him of a good night sleep.

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Nov 1, 2008 5:58:32 PM

reginos: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Nicosia , Cyprus; Posts: 12130, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 20, 2005; Reply to: Emperor

Re: Brazilian F1 Grand Prix in Sao Paulo

Emperor:

They were very disrespectful to Hamilton's father when he was displayed on the screen, and last year huligans were lined up outside Hamilton's hotel in Brazil making disturbing sounds in an ttempt to deprive him of a good night sleep.

F1 is becoming a mass sport . These things have been happening in football for ages now.

The more you pay attention to these people the worst they become. HAM can go out tomorrow and win the title and everybody will be silenced. On the other hand if he and others pay too much attention to negativity he will lose and these stupid activities will be no excuse for either him or McLaren who will win the title of eternal losers.

Winners stay focussed!

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Nov 1, 2008 6:59:21 PM

Emperor: Veteran; Loc: London & Gothenburg; Posts: 1013, Gallery; Registered on: Jan 6, 2006; Reply to: reginos

Re: Brazilian F1 Grand Prix in Sao Paulo

reginos:

Emperor:

They were very disrespectful to Hamilton's father when he was displayed on the screen, and last year huligans were lined up outside Hamilton's hotel in Brazil making disturbing sounds in an ttempt to deprive him of a good night sleep.

F1 is becoming a mass sport . These things have been happening in football for ages now.

The more you pay attention to these people the worst they become. HAM can go out tomorrow and win the title and everybody will be silenced. On the other hand if he and others pay too much attention to negativity he will lose and these stupid activities will be no excuse for either him or McLaren who will win the title of eternal losers.

Winners stay focussed!

Sorry but Massa and Ferrari have already won the title of eternal losers. Given all the help and support they've received from FIA, it's shocking that they haven't already bagged both titles. Ferrari has stood no chance against Hamilton this year. Kimi is a fluke and Massa has just been fortunate enough to have FIA make favorable decisions while recklessly punishing Hamilton.

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Nov 1, 2008 9:29:03 PM

throt: Rennteam VIP; Loc: London , United Kingdom; Posts: 6078, Gallery; Registered on: May 9, 2005; Reply to: reginos

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reginos:

I expect that Alonso from P6, will want to throw a spanner in HAM's works.

Agree , I reckon Alonso will go for a shunt up the rear of Hammy to spin him off on the first corner..Alonso would just hate to see Hammy win this year , you could see his relief last year whem KR won it,,,jelousy is a sad thing..

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Nov 2, 2008 1:26:09 PM

Shakal: Expert; Loc: Croatia , Croatia; Posts: 1375, Gallery; Registered on: May 30, 2006; Reply to: throt

Re: Brazilian F1 Grand Prix in Sao Paulo

throt:

reginos:

I expect that Alonso from P6, will want to throw a spanner in HAM's works.

Agree , I reckon Alonso will go for a shunt up the rear of Hammy to spin him off on the first corner..Alonso would just hate to see Hammy win this year , you could see his relief last year whem KR won it,,,jelousy is a sad thing..

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throt

"I didn't do it"

Alonso would rather seen Massa to win, but he is professional and I don't believe he would crash into Hamilton. I hope Trulli wont be a truble, he is defenetly very very light. I hope he isn't on Ferrari's pay list too Smiley

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Nov 2, 2008 6:05:03 PM

gangajas: Senior; Loc: Spain , Spain; Posts: 510, Gallery; Registered on: Jul 8, 2004; Reply to: easy_rider911

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What a sloppy driver Hamilton is, bloking his left tyre lap after lap. If tyre changes weren't allowed like some years ago.....

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Nov 2, 2008 6:37:08 PM

bazza: Expert; Loc: uk,za; Posts: 1393, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 29, 2005; Reply to: gangajas

Re: Brazilian F1 Grand Prix in Sao Paulo

gangajas:
What a sloppy driver Hamilton is, bloking his left tyre lap after lap. If tyre changes weren't allowed like some years ago.....

got to play it safe , 2nd race for his car and 3rd for the gearbox !

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Nov 2, 2008 6:43:30 PM

bazza: Expert; Loc: uk,za; Posts: 1393, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 29, 2005; Reply to: bazza

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rain!

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Nov 2, 2008 6:52:22 PM

gangajas: Senior; Loc: Spain , Spain; Posts: 510, Gallery; Registered on: Jul 8, 2004; Reply to: easy_rider911

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The most unfair ending ever, the most mediocre champion ever. Congratulations to Lwwis Hamilton.

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Nov 2, 2008 6:53:08 PM

AlexG: Junior; Loc: London , United Kingdom; Posts: 109, Gallery; Registered on: Dec 19, 2005; Reply to: easy_rider911

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What did Glock do???

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Nov 2, 2008 6:54:41 PM

JoeRockhead: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Topside , Monaco; Posts: 8033, Gallery; Registered on: Sep 17, 2007; Reply to: AlexG

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AlexG:

What did Glock do???

If he handed the position to Hamilton, Massa should kick him in the balls.

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Nov 2, 2008 6:56:55 PM

gangajas: Senior; Loc: Spain , Spain; Posts: 510, Gallery; Registered on: Jul 8, 2004; Reply to: AlexG

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AlexG:

What did Glock do???

Glock was on slicks.

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Nov 2, 2008 6:58:40 PM

Atzporsche: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Vancouver , Canada; Posts: 9118, Gallery; Registered on: Feb 7, 2005; Reply to: JoeRockhead

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JoeRockhead:

AlexG:

What did Glock do???

If he handed the position to Hamilton, Massa should kick him in the balls.

OMG OMG OMG OMG, what an ending!!!!

VETTEL passed him, what a lucky bastard!!! Hamilton your luck angels are all used up just to let you know. Next season it's gotta be more your work. Jesus, how lucky a guy.. i can't believe he didn't do anything there... Toyota is so stupid... that's going to be a lot of talking about him forgetting to accelerated out of THE LAST TURN to let the champion be switched!!!

Wow, amazing race.. with the rain! This is what F1 is all about and best of all Vettel did AMAZING!!

Congratulations to Hamilton eventhough we should thank Glock lol!!!

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Nov 2, 2008 6:59:09 PM

ezzie: Co-Pilot; Loc: UK , United Kingdom; Posts: 242, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 5, 2004; Reply to: Emperor

Re: Brazilian F1 Grand Prix in Sao Paulo

Incredible race and what an end to the season. A fittingly chaotic end to a topsy turvy season.

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Nov 2, 2008 7:01:30 PM

Atzporsche: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Vancouver , Canada; Posts: 9118, Gallery; Registered on: Feb 7, 2005; Reply to: gangajas

Re: Brazilian F1 Grand Prix in Sao Paulo

gangajas:

AlexG:

What did Glock do???

Glock was on slicks.

He was on slicks the whole time bud... Don't make it sound normal because he just didn't accerate out of the last turn which was pretty dry.. we're going to get "mechanical problem" hahaha.

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Nov 2, 2008 7:03:39 PM

ezzie: Co-Pilot; Loc: UK , United Kingdom; Posts: 242, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 5, 2004; Reply to: Atzporsche

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Atzporsche:

gangajas:

AlexG:

What did Glock do???

Glock was on slicks.

He was on slicks the whole time bud... Don't make it sound normal because he just didn't accerate out of the last turn which was pretty dry.. we're going to get "mechanical problem" hahaha.

Actually he was six seconds slower in the second sector too on the last lap.

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Nov 2, 2008 7:07:57 PM

Atzporsche: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Vancouver , Canada; Posts: 9118, Gallery; Registered on: Feb 7, 2005; Reply to: ezzie

Re: Brazilian F1 Grand Prix in Sao Paulo

ezzie:

Atzporsche:

gangajas:

AlexG:

What did Glock do???

Glock was on slicks.

He was on slicks the whole time bud... Don't make it sound normal because he just didn't accerate out of the last turn which was pretty dry.. we're going to get "mechanical problem" hahaha.

Actually he was six seconds slower in the second sector too on the last lap.

He was struggling like mad... Poor Ferrari who were snapped celebrating!!! I guess it did rain in that part.
But certainly need replay of that turn in which vettel got by hamilton and both by toyota right after or the other way around.. i was on the edge of my seat!

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Nov 2, 2008 7:08:19 PM

JoeRockhead: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Topside , Monaco; Posts: 8033, Gallery; Registered on: Sep 17, 2007; Reply to: ezzie

Re: Brazilian F1 Grand Prix in Sao Paulo

Glock was 18 seconds ahead of Hamilton going into the last lap and wasn't losing anytime, he was under no pressure from anyone behind him and did a 1:44 final lap. He either ran out of fuel or pulled over for Lewis.

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Nov 2, 2008 7:09:58 PM

ezzie: Co-Pilot; Loc: UK , United Kingdom; Posts: 242, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 5, 2004; Reply to: ezzie

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In fact GLock's last lap was 3, 9 and 6 seconds slower in sectors 1,2 and 3 respectively on the last lap compared to Hamilton's

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Nov 2, 2008 7:11:33 PM

gangajas: Senior; Loc: Spain , Spain; Posts: 510, Gallery; Registered on: Jul 8, 2004; Reply to: easy_rider911

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Also congratulations to Alonso for showing again that he's the best driver in F1 and to Vettel for his great race.

At least McCheaters haven't won the WCC, congratulations to Ferrari altough I guess they don't care at all about that at tha moment.

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Nov 2, 2008 7:12:53 PM

ResB: Rennteam Pro; Loc: Yorkshire, where roads are twisty... , United Kingdom; Posts: 2858, Gallery; Registered on: Jan 19, 2006; Reply to: easy_rider911

Re: Brazilian F1 Grand Prix in Sao Paulo

Looks to me like Glock just couldn't get the power down...

Massa drove brilliantly, so did Alonso to be honest. LH's race full of drama as usual but well done to him. Ferrari International Assistance won't be too happy.

There will be an investigation for sure. lol

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Nov 2, 2008 7:13:09 PM

Emperor: Veteran; Loc: London & Gothenburg; Posts: 1013, Gallery; Registered on: Jan 6, 2006; Reply to: Emperor

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KresoF1:
Moderators! Please for all of us delete post posted by Emperor and warn him about language displayed all the time in his posts about Lewis Hamilton. What is way too much is simply too much! He is probably the bigest LH fan but, rednack language do not belong on rennteam.

You are quite right. Done.

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Nov 2, 2008 7:13:26 PM

ezzie: Co-Pilot; Loc: UK , United Kingdom; Posts: 242, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 5, 2004; Reply to: ezzie

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Massa was very gallant at the press conference.

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Nov 2, 2008 7:15:43 PM

racerx: Rennteam VIP; Loc: 1985 porsche dealership , Bouvet Island; Posts: 8751, Gallery; Registered on: Jul 27, 2004; Reply to: JoeRockhead

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Amazing finish, all kinds of variables, Not since 86 can i remember a more dramatic end to the championship.

Hamilton choked, then got saved by weather or Glock and team making a decision. But we can't forget it was weather that put glock in that position.

Very exciting end.

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Nov 2, 2008 7:19:32 PM

harryo2b: Senior; Loc: Formerly Bitburg...Land of Bier, now Oklahoma home of the twister. , United States; Posts: 664, Gallery; Registered on: Oct 24, 2003; Reply to: easy_rider911

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Well holy hell?!@#%?$%&

What an intense last 3 laps of the F1 season. Vettel blows me away, as long as the Red Bull cars are reliable and competitive next season Vettel may be a force to recon with on a full time basis. Sad for Massa when you drive a perfect race and have to rely on someone else either making or breaking your year. I'm thinking Glock may want to get on a plane ASAP and fly back to Germany as i'm sure there aren't many happy people in Brazil right now.

Like it was said before some threads ago....every race should have rain, makes for a more eventful F1 race.

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Nov 2, 2008 7:20:10 PM

gangajas: Senior; Loc: Spain , Spain; Posts: 510, Gallery; Registered on: Jul 8, 2004; Reply to: easy_rider911

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Ron Dennis has only thanked English supporters, that shows what kind of man he is, a nationalist with zero class.

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Nov 2, 2008 7:20:29 PM

Atzporsche: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Vancouver , Canada; Posts: 9118, Gallery; Registered on: Feb 7, 2005; Reply to: Emperor

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Emperor:

None of all you of can stop Hamilton. Hamilton won against all odds while Ferrari lost despite receiving massive assistance by FIA.

hahaha Glock almost stopped him lol

I think Massa deserves it more than Hamilton.. I mean i know they both did huge mistakes this season, but Massa has more blood, sweat and tears behind the wheel of a F1 car.

I like the style in which Hamilton won... where is he?? hehehehe not on the podium? not in the interviews? that sucks! lol

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