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MKSGR said:
Please do not forget: it is fast only up to 160kph. Above that level it is slower than manual.
Sometimes I really wonder if you read my posts.
Again (I can send you a fax if you wish so ): the 997 Turbo Tiptroninc is FASTER than the Manual, even up to 160 kph and even up to 200 kph! From 0-200 kph, the Tiptronic is 0.6 seconds FASTER than manual.
I'm not sure where CF stated that he was wrong with his "estimates" (which btw weren't his "estimates" but claims from Porsche employees ), maybe you could direct me to the post where CF made this statement.
I heard about one second difference (in favor of manual) from 200 to top speed or from standstill to top speed, I don't remember anymore precisely. Sorry.
You are disappointed? Well, so be it. The 997 Turbo is faster than your 996 Turbo S, so I'm not sure what you expected. Carrera GT performance? You got it, buddy. One second faster on the Weissach track...with Tiptronic.
And while you and others are bragging about this and that, I'll enjoy my ride starting this summer. And don't tell me you want one when you "encounter" the first cars on the street, I would only tell you "I told you so".
Don't worry: reading your posts is one of my biggest delights
Regarding your question, CF stated in another thread:
"From 200-300 the manual is supposed to win by a VERY small margin, BUT only with perfect shifts!!!!
Standing KM: Tiptronic wins 21.1 vs 21.5 sec
400 m - 1000 m: Tip gains another 0.2 sec
Terminal speed should be 280-290 km/h"
In a subsequent post he agreed that terminal speed after 1000m should not be 280-290kph but rather something around 250kph.
Now a simple calculation:
- the acceleration difference 0-200 is .6 seconds
- between 200 and 250kph the delta is reduced to .4 seconds
- Acceleration time up to 250kph is around 21 seconds
- Remaining acceleration time up to top speed is well in excess of 20 seconds
Do you see my point?
- The gap between manual and tip is constant between 160kph and 200kph
- Between 200 and 250kph the gap narrows, i.e. manual is slightly quicker
- When reaching 250kph only 21 seconds have elapsed
- In the remaining 20-30 seconds to top-speed the manual will gain substantially due the much better gearing in that speed range.
Want to place a bet?