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    C55 AMG Estate

    Hi Guys,

    last week I was able to take the following two pictures. I'm sorry, but there was no chance to get the front.
    I hope this topic is not too old as there are already some pictures of this car.
    Source: BMH-Images (So to speak myself ). Reproduction please only with written authorization.

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    So that you can see the front I also post this of the front, but this pic is already nearly a half year old.

    General Data:
    5,5 litre V8 (naturally aspirated), 367 hp, introduction in spring `04? (Europe)

    Hope you enjoy it


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    So that you can see the front I also post this of the front, but this pic is already nearly a half year old.

    General Data:
    5,5 litre V8 (naturally aspirated), 367 hp, introduction in spring `04? (Europe)

    Hope you enjoy it


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    As you might have noticed the cars on these pictures both have a quad-exhaust, but when I made the pictures of the front of the Estate I also saw the C55 sedan with the same kind of camouflage like these two (or three) cars, but this one only had a double-exhaust. I wasn't able to take a picture of it, but a friend of mine made a short video. At first I thought it might be a Diesel (as there were at that time some rumours that AMG might introduce one more C AMG with a Diesel-engine) but it seemed to be a supercharger-aspirated petrol-engine, but form the quality of the video I can't tell if it's the actual engine. What does that mean? I'm asking, because I heard no rumours that there will be two petrol-driven C AMG and the prototypes that were built in the last days and weeks all have the quad-exhaust...

    Re: C55 AMG Estate

    As you might have noticed the cars on these pictures both have a quad-exhaust, but when I made the pictures of the front of the Estate I also saw the C55 sedan with the same kind of camouflage like these two (or three) cars, but this one only had a double-exhaust. I wasn't able to take a picture of it, but a friend of mine made a short video. At first I thought it might be a Diesel (as there were at that time some rumours that AMG might introduce one more C AMG with a Diesel-engine) but it seemed to be a supercharger-aspirated petrol-engine, but form the quality of the video I can't tell if it's the actual engine. What does that mean? I'm asking, because I heard no rumours that there will be two petrol-driven C AMG and the prototypes that were built in the last days and weeks all have the quad-exhaust...

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    A supercharged petrol AMG with 4 exhausts...?

    hmm...this can mean only one thing, but I highly doubt it...However, if true...then...

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    A supercharged petrol AMG with 4 exhausts...?

    hmm...this can mean only one thing, but I highly doubt it...However, if true...then...

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    The wheels in the very first pic look very nice, much nicer than the ones that are on the current C32. I hope AMG will redo the whole entire wheel line up for '05 Would be a really nice treat!

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    The wheels in the very first pic look very nice, much nicer than the ones that are on the current C32. I hope AMG will redo the whole entire wheel line up for '05 Would be a really nice treat!

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    The quad exhaust doesn't say much. AMG sells a quad exhaust for example for the CLK 55 (which shares the engine with the C55) as an option through their "Manufaktur".
    It can't be even excluded that AMG offers the quad exhaust as a standard option on the C55 to improve looks.

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    The quad exhaust doesn't say much. AMG sells a quad exhaust for example for the CLK 55 (which shares the engine with the C55) as an option through their "Manufaktur".
    It can't be even excluded that AMG offers the quad exhaust as a standard option on the C55 to improve looks.

    Say..............

    does anyone notice the car wrapped up sitting next to the C55 AMG prototype??? I wonder what that is???????????

    Say..............

    does anyone notice the car wrapped up sitting next to the C55 AMG prototype??? I wonder what that is???????????

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    The car next to the C55 is the bodywork of the new SLK.

    The AMG-wheels of this C55 will also come on the new SLK and the facelifted C-Class. They later might follow for other models.

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    The car next to the C55 is the bodywork of the new SLK.

    The AMG-wheels of this C55 will also come on the new SLK and the facelifted C-Class. They later might follow for other models.

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    I hope so, they would be great replacements for the ones on the rest of the AMG lineup.

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    I hope so, they would be great replacements for the ones on the rest of the AMG lineup.

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    Wow, that car looks like it will be one helluva estate car. Audi better watch out...the RS4 is seriosuly challenged here.

    Will there be a new version of the RS4 based on the new A4/S4?

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    Wow, that car looks like it will be one helluva estate car. Audi better watch out...the RS4 is seriosuly challenged here.

    Will there be a new version of the RS4 based on the new A4/S4?

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    RC --

    You say the C55/SLK55 will have the same motor as the CLK55. A source has stated that the C55/SLK55 will run the new quad-cam DI V8 motor (V8 version of the DI V6 in the SLK350). Furthermore, sources say that the cars in the pictures above are all using the 5.5L quad-cam motor and not the older 3-valve version.

    If this is the case, the power figures of 367 are very conservative given the 3.5L motor will make 272 hp. On a per liter basis (same hp per liter), the 5.5L motor should make about 427 hp. I think 367 will not be enough to keep up with the M3 V8 or the next edition of the RS4 and therefore I would expect an HP hike for the new quad-cam motor. I would not be shocked if MB gave the SLK55 and C55 around 400hp.

    What are your thoughts? Thanks for your insight.

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    RC --

    You say the C55/SLK55 will have the same motor as the CLK55. A source has stated that the C55/SLK55 will run the new quad-cam DI V8 motor (V8 version of the DI V6 in the SLK350). Furthermore, sources say that the cars in the pictures above are all using the 5.5L quad-cam motor and not the older 3-valve version.

    If this is the case, the power figures of 367 are very conservative given the 3.5L motor will make 272 hp. On a per liter basis (same hp per liter), the 5.5L motor should make about 427 hp. I think 367 will not be enough to keep up with the M3 V8 or the next edition of the RS4 and therefore I would expect an HP hike for the new quad-cam motor. I would not be shocked if MB gave the SLK55 and C55 around 400hp.

    What are your thoughts? Thanks for your insight.

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    I think having the possiblity of an all new V8 is quite exciting and will make the C55 a serious competitor. Not only it will give it a definite edge over the outgoing C32, it will overshadow the existing CLK55s. The C55 will retail for less than the CLK55, but will get the CLK's front end but possibly with a new engine. I would suspect that the CLK55 will at least be as powerful as the C55 so either the CLK will get the new V8 or the C55 will retain the old sohc V8 with 367HP.

    Baron

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    I think having the possiblity of an all new V8 is quite exciting and will make the C55 a serious competitor. Not only it will give it a definite edge over the outgoing C32, it will overshadow the existing CLK55s. The C55 will retail for less than the CLK55, but will get the CLK's front end but possibly with a new engine. I would suspect that the CLK55 will at least be as powerful as the C55 so either the CLK will get the new V8 or the C55 will retain the old sohc V8 with 367HP.

    Baron

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    Agreed. If the C55 gets the new 5.5L motor the CLK55 will have the same upgrade as well. But given the cost of certifying two V8 motors in short order, I see the old 5.5L motor as having passed its prime. If the 3.5L motor and most other version of the DI gas motor are ready for production, why install the old 3 valve motor when the 4 valve motor will be introduced in a mater of months?

    Both the C32 and CLK55 are in need of an upgrade. The supercharged motor of the C32 suffers from terrible "heat soaking" when driven on a semi-warm day. Any ambient temperatures above 80 degrees F and the car becomes seemingly slow. The 5.5L quad cam motor would solve this heat soaking issue in one form or another. As for the CLK55, it needs more power or the C55 will completely outshine it on the autobahn being that the current C32 is about equal in acceleration. Could AMG let a 55k C-Class trump its own 75k sport coupe?

    Now for my next question.... Has MB/AMG solved the chassis dynamics issues seen in the C32? If the understeer and terrible grip levels have not been addressed, MB might as well let the competition take its business. After speaking to many C32 owners, we all agree that the C32's largest flaw is the fact that a 330i sport can pull away from a C32 on a tight twisting road. I hope the non-supercharged motor (lower center of gravity) has reduced the nose heavy nature of the W203 AMG. Only time will tell!

    I feel good things are to come from AMG.

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    Agreed. If the C55 gets the new 5.5L motor the CLK55 will have the same upgrade as well. But given the cost of certifying two V8 motors in short order, I see the old 5.5L motor as having passed its prime. If the 3.5L motor and most other version of the DI gas motor are ready for production, why install the old 3 valve motor when the 4 valve motor will be introduced in a mater of months?

    Both the C32 and CLK55 are in need of an upgrade. The supercharged motor of the C32 suffers from terrible "heat soaking" when driven on a semi-warm day. Any ambient temperatures above 80 degrees F and the car becomes seemingly slow. The 5.5L quad cam motor would solve this heat soaking issue in one form or another. As for the CLK55, it needs more power or the C55 will completely outshine it on the autobahn being that the current C32 is about equal in acceleration. Could AMG let a 55k C-Class trump its own 75k sport coupe?

    Now for my next question.... Has MB/AMG solved the chassis dynamics issues seen in the C32? If the understeer and terrible grip levels have not been addressed, MB might as well let the competition take its business. After speaking to many C32 owners, we all agree that the C32's largest flaw is the fact that a 330i sport can pull away from a C32 on a tight twisting road. I hope the non-supercharged motor (lower center of gravity) has reduced the nose heavy nature of the W203 AMG. Only time will tell!

    I feel good things are to come from AMG.

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    If the C55 gets a V8 that puts out more than 367HP, when will the CLK get an upgrade? 4 years time when its facelift is due?

    The C32 is already a second quicker than the CLK55 from a standing km, so a 430HP C55 is gonna be sold for about the same price as a the C32 if not slightly more, while others have to make do with a measly 367hp CLK for the same price as the E55? (In UK, a CLK55 costs 57K, and the E55 62K)

    Rarely has Mercedes released a model that is cheaper and faster than its top of the line models, with the exception of thr E55, that thing is QUICK.

     
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