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toplad said:
Cayman owner having to get embroiled in a boring recycled discussion with 911/Boxster owners who constantly inject with their own insecurities regarding the Cayman.
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mcdelaug said:
Hmmmm, the whining continues, still no photos...what gives?
mcdelaug
Why?.....because this Cayman forum is DOA compared to all others....a farce from day one.
As the old saying goes.....You only get one chance to make a good first impression.....and this forum got an F....not even worth the effort to post a photo. Does that pretty much answer your question?
You want photos and many happy owners.....search the web for Cayman S sites.....you will find many of both without a problem.
I agree, am glad someone's got a brain, Cayman owners are not going to come on here and post anything at all, when every thread turns into a debate about how the Cayman isn't selling (which it clearly is if any of the posters look at other threads and the sales figures) or the Cayman owner having to get embroiled in a boring recycled discussion with 911/Boxster owners who constantly inject with their own insecurities regarding the Cayman.
The big picture is this, the Cayman has had brilliant reviews, the press are raving about it, the sales figures are good(even for this time of year) and time will tell if the Cayman has legs on not, but based on the reviews and recent sales figures I'd say yes without a doubt.
One other thing, don't you not think Porsche have spent millions on finding out what will win and fail in the market place, it's not something Porsche will enter in to lightly, thousands of hours of time and vast sums of money has been spent to makes sure Porsche don't build a car that will fail, seen as Porsche make some of the best cars in the market place and has the highest profit margin of any car maker in the world, I'm inclined to go with their judgement over a few non-believes with nothing better to do than try and justify their own Porsche purchase time after time.
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mcdelaug said:But there also seems to be a contingent who has chronically hurt feelings and an inability to tolerate any critisicism of the car (not even them personally mind you, just the Cayman as a concept) and feel compelled to wail and moan about how they're being mistreated. My hope was that sharing a few photos of your vehicles might help others see what you so enjoy about your car, but if somehow you get more out of playing the martyr in front of a bunch of strangers, well so be it.
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wtsnet said:
So perhaps more constructive posts and less destructive or inflammatory ones? (Everyone??)
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Porsche needs to offer mid-engine models at the same price points and performance levels as the 911. F and Lambo own that market nowmcdelaug
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Sci: I've never suggested Porsche get rid of the 911. They've got a highly evolved product that owns that niche. Clearly they'll "milk" it as long as possible. But having a full range of 911 models on offer doesn't preclude them from offering mid-engine models too. Many enthusiasts seem to view these platforms as mutually exclusive, but that just isn't so.
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Toplad: Yes, I have driven the Cayman, but not on a track, where I expcet its primary strengths would be most notice
able. Driven on public roads in a manner that reflects adequate respect for other drivers, I don't see a significant difference from my 987S. However, the hardtop was an obvious improvement in vehicle rigidity. I did find the styling to look better in person than in the photos.
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I'm sure you're right toplad! Not really sure where such an opportunity might present itself however.
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mcdelaug have you tested the Cayman?
The only reason I ask is because, the Cayman is much more of a drivers car and the engine is a step up from the Boxster S than the figures suggest, to the extent I find the boxster held back and slow to rev. I suppose it depends on how much you value being able to put the roof down, I was very disapointed with Boxster S engine, clearly designed not to step on the 997 Convertible toes.
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vtrader said:
I was at Rusnak Porsche Pasadena this evening and noticed they had three Cayman and one CGT on the dealer floor. There were no 997s for many months at most dealerships. Has the buzz on the Cayman dropped off?
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RC said:The "problem" of the Cayman S is simple: the price gap between the Boxster S and Cayman S is too big.
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I was at Rusnak Porsche Pasadena this evening and noticed they had three Cayman and one CGT on the dealer floor. There were no 997s for many months at most dealerships. Has the buzz on the Cayman dropped off?
My dealer has three Cayman S available too, two new cars and one testcar. And it is a very small dealership.
The first hype is over. The "problem" of the Cayman S is simple: the price gap between the Boxster S and Cayman S is too big. If they would have priced the Cayman S at the same level as the Boxster S, it may have sold much better (cool roadster or nice and slightly more powerful sports coupe at the same price).
And the Cayman S with some options is definetely too close to the 997 Carrera base model, price-wise.
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If Porsche has messed up, how do they fix the poblem?
Changing the price to your suggestion would really pi$$ off those buyers who paid the original price. But if (note I said IF) the Cayman sales are not up to Porsche's expectations, they will have to do something. I assume cancelling the car is a no-op.
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I was at Rusnak Porsche Pasadena this evening and noticed they had three Cayman and one CGT on the dealer floor. There were no 997s for many months at most dealerships. Has the buzz on the Cayman dropped off?
My dealer has three Cayman S available too, two new cars and one testcar. And it is a very small dealership.
The first hype is over. The "problem" of the Cayman S is simple: the price gap between the Boxster S and Cayman S is too big. If they would have priced the Cayman S at the same level as the Boxster S, it may have sold much better (cool roadster or nice and slightly more powerful sports coupe at the same price).
And the Cayman S with some options is definetely too close to the 997 Carrera base model, price-wise.
RC, thats rubbish
The Cayman sales figures are good and you've no way of knowing what the figures will be like in 6 months time or how many cars are sold or unsold now. It just a case of you being madly in love the 911.
Feb 28, 2006 4:56:28 PM
not willing to give up the cab fun (weekend toy, so practicality is not part of the equation in my case) - so please don't think I wouldn't like the car.
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The "problem" of the Cayman S is simple: the price gap between the Boxster S and Cayman S is too big. If they would have priced the Cayman S at the same level as the Boxster S, it may have sold much better (cool roadster or nice and slightly more powerful sports coupe at the same price).
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