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MKSGR said:
Why should disappointed Porsche buyers not complain for months. The test results will (most likely) not change much. The facts known to date speek for themselves
I understand that some people are disappointed, especially with the non-availability of PDK but also with the "low" power figure on the paper.
But, this is a fact: the 997 Turbo is an incredibly fast car and because you like to compare it to the 996 Turbo S, I can tell you that I've talked about this "comparison" to certain people and all of them were actually laughing in my face, claiming that the 997 Turbo and the 996 Turbo S are as much of a difference in performance like day and night. And in favor of the 997 Turbo.
I trust these people because up to now, their claims have been accurate.
Of course they can be wrong, I can be wrong and maybe the 997 Turbo is crap. But shouldn't we wait until we see a real life review, at least ONE?
I have more of a feeling that you're trying to "justify" to yourself NOT to go for the new 997 Turbo and to be happy with your current 996 Turbo S. No problem with me. But if you want to know facts, you should wait for a few reviews to make sure you're not making a mistake in your judgement.
Regarding the weight of the new Turbo:
I hold here the OFFICIAL Porsche 911 (996) Turbo Technik Kompendium in my hands and the weight statements are:
Leergewicht DIN: 1540 kg (Tiptronic: 1585 kg) - 997 TT:
1585 kg (
1620 kg).
Leergewicht DIN + Fahrer 75 kg: 1615 kg (Tiptronic: 1660 kg) - 997 TT:
1660 kg (Tiptronic:
1695 kg).
Weight to power ratio:
3,66 kg/HP (Tiptronic: 3,76 kg/HP).
So yes, you're right: the new 997 Turbo is actually 35-45 kg
heavier than the old 996 Turbo and I'm a little bit surprised to see how Porsche seems to mix up the numbers, by purpose or not. I suppose they took the latest factory weight claims for the 996 Turbo and compared them to the new 997 Turbo. But I agree with you that this is a little bit of a marketing "trick". Because although the 996 Turbo did gain in weight over the years of production, it also gained in performance surprisingly.
But the 996 Turbo vs. 997 Turbo power/weight ratio is a different story. 3.3 kg/HP is better than 3.66 kg (by ~ 10%).
And the 996 Turbo S is a few kg heavier than the 996 Turbo due to the increased weight (this is valid for the 996 Turbo too) during the model production cycle.
Sounds confusing? Well, a little bit.
This is why I recommend: wait and see. If you don't like it, you don't have to buy it. And if you like it, well...too late for an early car.
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