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Feb 23, 2006 5:42:48 AM

TopherV: Veteran; Loc: Orange County, Southern California; Posts: 1121, Gallery; Registered on: Jul 29, 2003

New season of Top Gear in jeopardy?

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Top Gear - the wildly popular British TV series staring automotive commentator Jeremy Clarkson - is facing a major problem that could prevent filming of the upcoming season, according to the U.K's Telegraph. The controversy centers around concerns over noise and pollution caused by Clarkson & Co at the Dunsfold Aerodrome where the show is currently filmed. Dunsfold is slated to be redeveloped, meaning Top Gear is not only facing an eviction, but also must find a new location to shoot its episodes. Unfortunately, things aren't looking good for their location of choice, the Enstone airfield. Locals have already protested the use of the airfield by Top Gear, leaving producers to look for alternatives. So far, none have been found. To make matters worse, filming is slated to begin in May, and preparations of any airfield - if one is found - would take two months. Update: Top Gear has issued an official statement on the issue. Apparently, reports of their demise were greatly exaggerated.

Here's the link: http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/02/21/new-season-of-top-gear-in-jeopardy/

Another link from BBC about filming: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/4731958.stm

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Feb 23, 2006 8:06:58 PM

mcdelaug: Expert; Loc: Fort Worth, Texas , United States; Posts: 1912, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 3, 2004; Reply to: TopherV

Re: New season of Top Gear in jeopardy?

Top Gear, while not objective, is fun to watch. I hope they get this sorted out.

mcdelaug

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Feb 23, 2006 8:33:14 PM

ElTonioni: Junior; Loc: UK , United Kingdom; Posts: 79, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 30, 2005; Reply to: mcdelaug

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Surely it's the perfect opportunity to do the series in the Isle of Man!

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Feb 23, 2006 10:03:09 PM

Grant S.: Junior; Loc: Pennsylvania; Posts: 105, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 30, 2005; Reply to: ElTonioni

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It's amazing to me what a big deal people make out of these types of things. What's the big deal? Do these people making a fuss drive cars? If so they are totally contradicting themselves with the whole pollution thing.

I love Top Gear, that would be a shame if they couldn't do it anymore.

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Feb 23, 2006 11:48:41 PM

rludlow: Junior; Loc: Atlanta, GA USA; Posts: 77, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 30, 2002; Reply to: TopherV

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I really wish Top Gear would do a US version of the show. The perfect location for them to shoot would be Barber Motorsports Park in Birmingham, AL. An absolutely beautiful facility. They can run the cars ragged on the track and then host the show in the musuem which has numerous racing bikes and Loti (LOL...my term for many Lotus cars) including an old F1 racer. If needs any more cred, Porsche moved their Drivers Educaton Events fro Road Atlanta to this facility.

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Feb 23, 2006 11:50:39 PM

rludlow: Junior; Loc: Atlanta, GA USA; Posts: 77, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 30, 2002; Reply to: rludlow

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Check this track out: Barber Motorsports Park Elevation Map WOW!

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Feb 24, 2006 3:16:02 AM

TopherV: Veteran; Loc: Orange County, Southern California; Posts: 1121, Gallery; Registered on: Jul 29, 2003; Reply to: rludlow

Re: New season of Top Gear in jeopardy?

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I really wish Top Gear would do a US version of the show. The perfect location for them to shoot would be Barber Motorsports Park in Birmingham, AL. An absolutely beautiful facility. They can run the cars ragged on the track and then host the show in the musuem which has numerous racing bikes and Loti (LOL...my term for many Lotus cars) including an old F1 racer. If needs any more cred, Porsche moved their Drivers Educaton Events fro Road Atlanta to this facility.

I am a 100% sure i would not watch an american version unless they kept the original cast. I watch top gear for their quirkyness, their obvious subjectivity on most cars, and hilarious analogies. All of which makes entertaining, fun, comical tv.:!

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Feb 24, 2006 12:19:46 PM

Michael Russell: Junior; Loc:; Posts: 109, Gallery; Registered on: Aug 26, 2003; Reply to: TopherV

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Boy I agree. I could care less if they do an American version. As long as I have Bittorent, I am a happy camper! Keep the original the original. Even the Americanised version of the original show is not as good.

Three different guys are just not going to be able to capture the obvious and clear "chemestry" (I hate to use that word) those three have, and that is what makes the show.

Michael

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Feb 24, 2006 1:58:59 PM

Friscorays: Junior; Loc: TX; Posts: 148, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 20, 2005; Reply to: Michael Russell

Re: New season of Top Gear in jeopardy?

rludlow,

Your wish is answered:

http://www.topgear.com/content/features/stories/2006/01/stories/08/1.html

I am with TopherV and Michael. I enjoy the show bescause of the hosts and doubt Discovery channel will get it right with their version. Time will tell.

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Feb 24, 2006 2:33:57 PM

0two9: Pilot; Loc: Mass; Posts: 376, Gallery; Registered on: Oct 25, 2005; Reply to: rludlow

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True... they need to take the cars from the UK (as you can only get some of the cars they test in the UK and any other country but the US) and they need to bring the show over here. However, they are going to have to lose their English idea of comedy and sayings that no American understands. But yeah, TopGear would be great to see in the US..and not those crappy cut down no crowd time edited versions that they show on discovery.

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Feb 24, 2006 9:36:02 PM

tkids: Co-Pilot; Loc: CO. USA. , United States; Posts: 198, Gallery; Registered on: Dec 15, 2005; Reply to: TopherV

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I agree with you 100%. If it were "Ameriwashed" I would probably not care for it!

"I am a 100% sure i would not watch an american version unless they kept the original cast. I watch top gear for their quirkyness, their obvious subjectivity on most cars, and hilarious analogies. All of which makes entertaining, fun, comical tv.:!

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Feb 25, 2006 4:38:33 AM

JimFlat6: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Cave , United States; Posts: 8633, Gallery; Registered on: Jul 25, 2004; Reply to: tkids

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If they produce a USA version of Top Gear it will be a boring mess. Think Entertainment Tonight meets PBS's Motorweek and thats what it would probably be.

We dont do tongue in cheek, self deprecating humor well in the US and have way too many corporate legal departments ready to pounce.

A USA Top Gear would be a politicaly correct and diluted failure as would a German produced version.

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Feb 26, 2006 12:52:28 AM

Crash: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Never been to , Antarctica; Posts: 8287, Gallery; Registered on: Oct 17, 2002; Reply to: 0two9

Re: New season of Top Gear in jeopardy?

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0two9 said:
True... they need to take the cars from the UK (as you can only get some of the cars they test in the UK and any other country but the US) and they need to bring the show over here. However, they are going to have to lose their English idea of comedy and sayings that no American understands. But yeah, TopGear would be great to see in the US..and not those crappy cut down no crowd time edited versions that they show on discovery.

English comedy is ten times better than anything the Americans can put together, at least for my taste

. I understand all of it despite not living in the UK. It's the americanized versions of everything that make me cringe. Not sure what those producers are thinking...

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Feb 26, 2006 12:58:29 AM

Crash: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Never been to , Antarctica; Posts: 8287, Gallery; Registered on: Oct 17, 2002; Reply to: JimFlat6

Re: New season of Top Gear in jeopardy?

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JimFlat6 said:
If they produce a USA version of Top Gear it will be a boring mess. Think Entertainment Tonight meets PBS's Motorweek and thats what it would probably be.

We dont do tongue in cheek, self deprecating humor well in the US and have way too many corporate legal departments ready to pounce.

A USA Top Gear would be a politicaly correct and diluted failure as would a German produced version.

Yeah, I have a question. Why is the word, derived from the last name Crapper, used to describe a mass of organic waste, being dumped into an essential appliance of every lavatory the world over, CENSORED?
And not just audio, they also censor lip movement and any "stray" fingers. Must really be bad being a producer there...

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Feb 26, 2006 3:46:09 AM

SoCal Alan: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Orange County , United States; Posts: 7268, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 6, 2004; Reply to: Crash

Re: New season of Top Gear in jeopardy?

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Crash said:
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JimFlat6 said:
If they produce a USA version of Top Gear it will be a boring mess. Think Entertainment Tonight meets PBS's Motorweek and thats what it would probably be.

We dont do tongue in cheek, self deprecating humor well in the US and have way too many corporate legal departments ready to pounce.

A USA Top Gear would be a politicaly correct and diluted failure as would a German produced version.

Yeah, I have a question. Why is the word, derived from the last name Crapper, used to describe a mass of organic waste, being dumped into an essential appliance of every lavatory the world over, CENSORED?
And not just audio, they also censor lip movement and any "stray" fingers. Must really be bad being a producer there...

Eh... what the heck are you talking about?

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Feb 26, 2006 11:16:07 PM

John H: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Cheshire, UK , United Kingdom; Posts: 7682, Gallery; Registered on: Oct 20, 2005; Reply to: SoCal Alan

Re: New season of Top Gear in jeopardy?

I think he's referring to the word 'crap' derived from the name of the guy who invented the flushing lavatory - Thomas Crapper.

Although, in what context I'm also not sure.

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Feb 27, 2006 10:37:21 AM

Crash: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Never been to , Antarctica; Posts: 8287, Gallery; Registered on: Oct 17, 2002; Reply to: John H

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John H said:
I think he's referring to the word 'crap' derived from the name of the guy who invented the flushing lavatory - Thomas Crapper.

Although, in what context I'm also not sure.

Sorry, I guess I wasn't clear enough. Most of the shows I've seen on TV there have the world 'crap' censored and a lot of other stuff, which just seems absurd to me. Like the middle finger and lip movement. How can 'crap' be considered a curse word? That's just to top off the already bad shows.

And the thing is, when the show is already bad and I'm for some reason watching it, choosing the language too carefully or censoring any unwanted words just adds icing onto the lousy cake. All fine and well, the shows are made with US audience in mind, but the problem is that some smartass is inevitably going to import the show here, instead of the british version.

Oh yeah, there's another word... Ass!

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Feb 27, 2006 1:41:13 PM

John H: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Cheshire, UK , United Kingdom; Posts: 7682, Gallery; Registered on: Oct 20, 2005; Reply to: Crash

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Hi Crash - got it now.

I would find that annoying. Luckily we don't have the problem here, in fact following the watershed, there's very little censorship at all it seems.

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Feb 27, 2006 3:15:47 PM

SoCal Alan: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Orange County , United States; Posts: 7268, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 6, 2004; Reply to: Crash

Re: New season of Top Gear in jeopardy?

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Crash said:
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John H said:
I think he's referring to the word 'crap' derived from the name of the guy who invented the flushing lavatory - Thomas Crapper.

Although, in what context I'm also not sure.

Sorry, I guess I wasn't clear enough. Most of the shows I've seen on TV there have the world 'crap' censored and a lot of other stuff, which just seems absurd to me. Like the middle finger and lip movement. How can 'crap' be considered a curse word? That's just to top off the already bad shows.
And the thing is, when the show is already bad and I'm for some reason watching it, choosing the language too carefully or censoring any unwanted words just adds icing onto the lousy cake. All fine and well, the shows are made with US audience in mind, but the problem is that some smartass is inevitably going to import the show here, instead of the british version.
Oh yeah, there's another word... Ass!

Crash, sorry I was a little confused. I had assumed you meant that in the US, the word "crap" was censored for US made television shows. I guess you really meant to say that the same shows, when reshown in Europe, had these words removed or replaced with a different word.

It must be fun watching the show "Becker" in Europe, then.

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Feb 27, 2006 3:50:37 PM

Crash: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Never been to , Antarctica; Posts: 8287, Gallery; Registered on: Oct 17, 2002; Reply to: SoCal Alan

Re: New season of Top Gear in jeopardy?

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SoCal Alan said:
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Crash said:
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John H said:
I think he's referring to the word 'crap' derived from the name of the guy who invented the flushing lavatory - Thomas Crapper.

Although, in what context I'm also not sure.

Sorry, I guess I wasn't clear enough. Most of the shows I've seen on TV there have the world 'crap' censored and a lot of other stuff, which just seems absurd to me. Like the middle finger and lip movement. How can 'crap' be considered a curse word? That's just to top off the already bad shows.
And the thing is, when the show is already bad and I'm for some reason watching it, choosing the language too carefully or censoring any unwanted words just adds icing onto the lousy cake. All fine and well, the shows are made with US audience in mind, but the problem is that some smartass is inevitably going to import the show here, instead of the british version.
Oh yeah, there's another word... Ass!

Crash, sorry I was a little confused. I had assumed you meant that in the US, the word "crap" was censored for US made television shows. I guess you really meant to say that the same shows, when reshown in Europe, had these words removed or replaced with a different word.

It must be fun watching the show "Becker" in Europe, then.

That's exactly right. Good to see we got it right on the second try

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Feb 27, 2006 5:34:46 PM

Walter: Pilot; Loc:; Posts: 453, Gallery; Registered on: Jan 20, 2006; Reply to: mcdelaug

Re: New season of Top Gear in jeopardy?

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mcdelaug said:
Top Gear, while not objective, is fun to watch. I hope they get this sorted out.

mcdelaug

Why do you think that Top Gear is biased?

Can you give me the name of a magazine or TV show that is 100% objective?And why that particular magazine or TV show?

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Feb 27, 2006 6:10:35 PM

SoCal Alan: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Orange County , United States; Posts: 7268, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 6, 2004; Reply to: Walter

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Walter said:
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mcdelaug said:
Top Gear, while not objective, is fun to watch. I hope they get this sorted out.

mcdelaug

Why do you think that Top Gear is biased?

Can you give me the name of a magazine or TV show that is 100% objective?And why that particular magazine or TV show?

I think what mcdelaug is implying is Jeremy Clarkson has a problem with Porsche. (or at least, specificially, the 997)

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Feb 27, 2006 7:09:29 PM

95jersey: Senior; Loc: US; Posts: 578, Gallery; Registered on: Feb 20, 2006; Reply to: Crash

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Not sure what those producers are thinking...

MONEY! What it comes down to is typical corporate standards and the desire to advance one's career. You simply say YES to the corporation standards, edit your project as required, collect a fat pay check, and go to you seaside home in your new Porsche.

Or be true to your artistic, college age ideals and stay poor.

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