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CF said:
0-60 MPH : 3.7/3.4 (Man/Tip)
0-100 Km/h : 3.9/3.7 (Man/Tip)
0-160 Km/h : 8.4/7.8 (Man/Tip)
0-200 Km/h : 12.8/12.2 (Man/Tip)
0-400 m : 11.8/11.6 (Man/Tip)
Top Speed : 310 Km/h (Man/Tip)
Feb 15, 2006 3:29:32 PM
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throt said:Quote:
CF said:
0-60 MPH : 3.7/3.4 (Man/Tip)
0-100 Km/h : 3.9/3.7 (Man/Tip)
0-160 Km/h : 8.4/7.8 (Man/Tip)
0-200 Km/h : 12.8/12.2 (Man/Tip)
0-400 m : 11.8/11.6 (Man/Tip)
Top Speed : 310 Km/h (Man/Tip)
Your at it again , leave that phone alone cause his telling you porkie pies ..
throt..
Feb 15, 2006 3:51:42 PM
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Feb 15, 2006 4:28:33 PM
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SoCal Alan said:
This is really depressing. Especially the 0-160 times.
Whats depressing about the 0-160 km?? The tip is at 7.8...that is 1.4 seconds faster then the stock 996tt at 9.2
Feb 15, 2006 4:40:32 PM
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SoCal Alan said:
The difference between the tip and manual to me is depressing. Don't get me wrong, I mean the performance is great. I just can't get over the difference in the times. The times should be the other way around. I can even live with equal times. But not this. No way. I'm a little, shall I say, pissed.
Feb 15, 2006 4:46:23 PM
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Carlos from Spain said:Quote:
SoCal Alan said:
The difference between the tip and manual to me is depressing. Don't get me wrong, I mean the performance is great. I just can't get over the difference in the times. The times should be the other way around. I can even live with equal times. But not this. No way. I'm a little, shall I say, pissed.
I can tell you one thing, they times the Tip achieves better be from the Tip tranny's own merit, not because they have "de-tuned" the manual in someway by retrincting a feature or something, in order to make the Tip appealing while the PDK is not ready, becuase if the times are from something "outside" the Tip tansmission workings themselves it will be a mayor suicide and let down in front of their fans for a Sportcar manufacturer to artificially push an torque converter slush-box. Personally I can't see how a 5-speed heavy torque robbing torque converter auto can beat a 6-speed manual onw its own merit... so I will be looking very closely at the reason why the acceleration numbers are faster in the Tip, a reason Porsche has yet to provide us with...
Feb 15, 2006 4:51:28 PM
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SoCal Alan said:
1) The manual setup is detuned because the manual might not be able to handle the increase in torque.
Feb 15, 2006 4:52:22 PM
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SoCal Alan said:
The difference between the tip and manual to me is depressing. Don't get me wrong, I mean the performance is great. I just can't get over the difference in the times. The times should be the other way around. I can even live with equal times. But not this. No way. I'm a little, shall I say, pissed.
Feb 15, 2006 4:56:11 PM
Feb 15, 2006 5:12:50 PM
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Feb 15, 2006 6:44:06 PM
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CF said:
0-100 Km/h : 3.9/3.7 (Man/Tip)
0-160 Km/h : 8.4/7.8 (Man/Tip)
Feb 15, 2006 7:19:50 PM
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JimFlat6 said:
Carlos,
Maybe with the Tiptronic, the TT's electronics allow it to adjust and "synchronize" engine torque to optimally match traction and the rotational mass of the AWD system when the tiptronic changes gears.
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CF said:
0-60 MPH : 3.7/3.4 (Man/Tip)
0-100 Km/h : 3.9/3.7 (Man/Tip)
0-160 Km/h : 8.4/7.8 (Man/Tip)
0-200 Km/h : 12.8/12.2 (Man/Tip)
0-400 m : 11.8/11.6 (Man/Tip)
Top Speed : 310 Km/h (Man/Tip)
Feb 15, 2006 7:51:04 PM
Feb 15, 2006 8:05:00 PM
Feb 15, 2006 8:08:46 PM
Feb 15, 2006 8:10:16 PM
Feb 15, 2006 8:22:12 PM
Feb 15, 2006 8:41:01 PM
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CF said:
There's nothing wrong or inferior with the "NEW" manual gearbox for the 997 Turbo.
It's the Tiptronic that's been completely redesigned and now offer what's technologically possible for a Tiptronic gearbox, and that just happens to be better than what a manual gearbox has to offer in terms of acceleration numbers at certain speed intervals.
To me it seems that some of you would prefer if they held back the development of the Tiptronic gearboxes in order to make the manual more competitive.
Feb 15, 2006 8:43:18 PM
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Carlos from Spain said:Quote:
CF said:
There's nothing wrong or inferior with the "NEW" manual gearbox for the 997 Turbo.
It's the Tiptronic that's been completely redesigned and now offer what's technologically possible for a Tiptronic gearbox, and that just happens to be better than what a manual gearbox has to offer in terms of acceleration numbers at certain speed intervals.
To me it seems that some of you would prefer if they held back the development of the Tiptronic gearboxes in order to make the manual more competitive.
Ok then, since you keep mentioning that is all because the Tiptronic that's been completely redesigned then tell us how exactly does the NEW 5-speed torque converter Tip achieves the performance of a 6-speed dual-clucth and betters the performance of the Ferrari and BMW 6-speed secuentials? what has been redesigned? .. that would stop all the hypothesising, so what are you basing your statement on?
Feb 15, 2006 8:45:22 PM
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MKSGR said:
They can redesign as much as they like: The Tip will be slower (compared to manual) between 200kph and top-speed as it has only five gears.