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Feb 13, 2006 8:59:42 PM

fritz: Rennteam VIP; Loc: BaWü , Germany; Posts: 10248, Gallery; Registered on: Jul 23, 2003; Reply to: rosso nuvola

Re: 599GTB Fiorano (New Pics)

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rosso nuvola said:
Do you who makes the SMG for BMW? in the begining rumor was that magnetti Marelli, then it was said to be Getrag, and others sai that marelli makes the software and Getrag the
"hardware".??

Getrag made the gearbox and Marelli made the electronic control system (hardware and probably software) for the original system.

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Feb 13, 2006 9:12:36 PM

Carlos from Spain: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Spain. , Spain; Posts: 21152, Gallery; Registered on: Feb 9, 2003; Reply to: teflon

Re: 599GTB Fiorano (New Pics)

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teflon said:
The numbers quoted from that article are not correct. The BMW SMG II shifts in 80ms which is .08, not 0.8.

0.8 is 800ms. For comparison, the SMG III shifts at 65ms.

So, are the numbers in the article for the BMW simple typos, or are they actual mistakes? I can't consider the number quoted for the Audi as correct knowing that they didn't get the other numbers right.

The BMW shift time is just a typo. I have read that 0.008s/8ms number in reference to the DSG before in other places.

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Feb 13, 2006 11:15:44 PM

teflon: Co-Pilot; Loc: US , United States; Posts: 216, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 13, 2003; Reply to: Carlos from Spain

Re: 599GTB Fiorano (New Pics)

Carlos,

This will be my last post in this thread about this. I apologize to everyone for dragging it so far astray. I do not wish to go any further off topic, but I feel I must comment.

You say that you've read 8ms for the DSG shift time in other places, but I provided links to two references on AUDI's website that indicate a shift time that is nowhere near 8ms. Has Audi of America made a mistake with their information? Maybe, but you have not so far provided any legitimate evidence to the contrary.

I will stand by my belief that the DSG cannot upshift in 8ms, especially since the info I've found from Audi says as much.

Greg A

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Feb 13, 2006 11:39:58 PM

SSNISTR: Senior; Loc: Florida; Posts: 611, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 15, 2004; Reply to: teflon

Re: 599GTB Fiorano (New Pics)

This has gotten off-topic huh....

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Feb 13, 2006 11:48:43 PM

Carlos from Spain: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Spain. , Spain; Posts: 21152, Gallery; Registered on: Feb 9, 2003; Reply to: teflon

Re: 599GTB Fiorano (New Pics)

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teflon said:
Carlos,

This will be my last post in this thread about this. I apologize to everyone for dragging it so far astray. I do not wish to go any further off topic, but I feel I must comment.

You say that you've read 8ms for the DSG shift time in other places, but I provided links to two references on AUDI's website that indicate a shift time that is nowhere near 8ms. Has Audi of America made a mistake with their information? Maybe, but you have not so far provided any legitimate evidence to the contrary.

I will stand by my belief that the DSG cannot upshift in 8ms, especially since the info I've found from Audi says as much.

Greg A

I haven't timed it myself, so if they lied I don't know

but I remember it being mentioned in different places at the time of the lauch of the DSG, since the upshift time was pretty spectacular, and was the first box auto to beat the manual for that reason. Anyway, that was some time ago so I lost track now but here is more info in the 8ms upshift:
http://www.autozine.org/technical_school/gearbox/tech_gear_manual.htm#Twin-clutch

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct-Shift_Gearbox

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Feb 14, 2006 12:58:31 AM

Lazy Cat: Pilot; Loc: On the Sofa; Posts: 422, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 2, 2005; Reply to: rosso nuvola

Re: 599GTB Fiorano (New Pics)

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rosso nuvola said:
Do you who makes the SMG for BMW? in the begining rumor was that magnetti Marelli, then it was said to be Getrag, and others sai that marelli makes the software and Getrag the
"hardware".??

Well there is a difference between smg, and smg2(For smg3, i don't have any tech info, but it should be like smg2)

Mechanical components of SMG come from Magneti Marelli.

Mechanical components of SMG2(M3) come from Getrag and Sachs (if i remember well, anyway, its a german company).

For softwares, i don't know.

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Feb 14, 2006 6:12:20 AM

SSNISTR: Senior; Loc: Florida; Posts: 611, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 15, 2004; Reply to: Lazy Cat

Re: 599GTB Fiorano (New Pics)

Can someone split this thread?

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Feb 14, 2006 11:18:03 AM

arakis: Pilot; Loc: Belgrade,Serbia , Serbia and Montenegro; Posts: 302, Gallery; Registered on: Jan 30, 2004; Reply to: SSNISTR

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Ferrari is the best end of discusion. HEHE

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Feb 14, 2006 6:15:52 PM

SSNISTR: Senior; Loc: Florida; Posts: 611, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 15, 2004; Reply to: arakis

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arakis said:
Ferrari is the best end of discusion. HEHE

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Feb 15, 2006 9:38:33 PM

Ziggy: Expert; Loc:; Posts: 1600, Gallery; Registered on: Jul 27, 2004; Reply to: Lazy Cat

Re: 599GTB Fiorano (New Pics)

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Lazy Cat said:
Quote:
rosso nuvola said:
Do you who makes the SMG for BMW? in the begining rumor was that magnetti Marelli, then it was said to be Getrag, and others sai that marelli makes the software and Getrag the
"hardware".??

Well there is a difference between smg, and smg2(For smg3, i don't have any tech info, but it should be like smg2)

Mechanical components of SMG come from Magneti Marelli.

Mechanical components of SMG2(M3) come from Getrag and Sachs (if i remember well, anyway, its a german company).

For softwares, i don't know.

Sorry to jump into this "OT-topic", but I am pretty sure Siemens was in charge of the software.

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Feb 18, 2006 8:01:08 PM

icon: Pilot; Loc: birmingham.al.usa.na; Posts: 442, Gallery; Registered on: Feb 13, 2006; Reply to: SSNISTR

Re: 599GTB Fiorano (New Pics)

the stying looks dated in comparison to the enzo or 430.

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Feb 18, 2006 10:21:05 PM

SSNISTR: Senior; Loc: Florida; Posts: 611, Gallery; Registered on: Apr 15, 2004; Reply to: icon

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icon said:
the stying looks dated in comparison to the enzo or 430.

How in the world can you say that? It looks ULTRA modern....

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Feb 19, 2006 7:11:04 AM

icon: Pilot; Loc: birmingham.al.usa.na; Posts: 442, Gallery; Registered on: Feb 13, 2006; Reply to: SSNISTR

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BluCamSS said:
How in the world can you say that? It looks ULTRA modern....

i don't know!

the pics make it kind of hard to judge. it does look pretty dang good in some of them!

i think i'm just used to the mid engine designs

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Feb 19, 2006 11:37:47 AM

icon: Pilot; Loc: birmingham.al.usa.na; Posts: 442, Gallery; Registered on: Feb 13, 2006; Reply to: icon

599 gtb fiorano

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i gotta admit it does look pretty good!:)

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