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    Re: Porsche 992 Fil de discussion fermé

    bigantballs:

    Does anyone else think that is Lapis Blue?

    No!!! I  think it´s Coral Blue and Boxster Red on the interior!!!!

     


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    Re: Porsche 992 Fil de discussion fermé

    Hopefully Iris blue


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    Re: Porsche 992 Fil de discussion fermé

    I am still interested in the 911. After attending 3 of the porsche driving school courses. I really wanted a GT3, but have been turned off with process of trying to get despite being on a “wait list” since 991.1 first came out.  I am pretty much resigned to the fact I am probably not going to get an allocation on top of these cars optioned out are easily getting to $150k for the 911s/gts and the way GT3s are marked close to 200k. And not to mention PTS option is 12k in the US, the whole process is becoming a turn off.

    So I am now waiting for my Audi R8 rws ordered a month ago. I am even more confident of this choice after reading RC’s review that I saw after putting my deposit down.


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    These pictures showed up today in my istagram feed, don’t remember seeing them here 

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    Re: Porsche 992 Fil de discussion fermé

    Enmanuel:

    These pictures showed up today in my istagram feed, don’t remember seeing them here 

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    Proportions seem off on the first photograph for a 911 and seems similar, especially the rear half, to the Toyota GT-86.  


    Re: Porsche 992 Fil de discussion fermé

    Enmanuel:

    These pictures showed up today in my istagram feed, don’t remember seeing them here 


     

    Many thanks for posting Smiley The rear looks nice (to me). The weakness seems to be the side-front view. In these images even more clearly given the white/black contrast.


    Re: Porsche 992 Fil de discussion fermé

    This strict corporate design makes the 992, Macan and Cayenne near identical... and boring surprise


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    Re: Porsche 992 Fil de discussion fermé

    well, go figured, ...after Porsche announced a Billion € efficiency programme last week ...Smiley


    Re: Porsche 992 Fil de discussion fermé

    starts to look electric .....


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    GRN2RSMO:

     

    So I am now waiting for my Audi R8 rws ordered a month ago. I am even more confident of this choice after reading RC’s review that I saw after putting my deposit down.

    Best alternative . I am sure you will be happy 


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    Re: Porsche 992 Fil de discussion fermé

    bluelines:

    This strict corporate design makes the 992, Macan and Cayenne near identical... and boring surprise

    +1 


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    Porsche should have one template for the sportscars and a different one for the non-sportscars.

    However, since Porsche Marketing classify  their entire range as sportscars they use the same design identity


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    Re: Porsche 992 Fil de discussion fermé

    bluelines:

    This strict corporate design makes the 992, Macan and Cayenne near identical... and boring surprise

    ...that had to be expected with VW pulling the strings Smiley BTW Autobild claims to know that the 992 will be 10 cm wider than the 991 (if true this would be a lot - maybe even the biggest "jump" in 911 history ?). I am wondering whether this has something to do with the upcoming VW corporate platform strategy (Porsche/AUDI/Lamborghini) ? If memory serves me right someone posted before that with the 992 there won't be any difference in the car's width regardless of 2wd or 4wd ?  The wide and bulky rear also may help to stuff hybrid components there ?


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    Re: Porsche 992 Fil de discussion fermé

    The wider track on the AWD version never made sense from a technical point of view, and always seemed like a marketing decision. With the front tires contributing to traction, one could get away with narrower rears.


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    Porsche-Jeck:

    BTW Autobild claims to know that the 992 will be 10 cm wider than the 991 (if true this would be a lot - maybe even the biggest "jump" in 911 history ?).

    I think this only refers to the wide fender flares, so that even a Carrera has the flare of a Carrera 4, GT3 RS, Turbo, etc (not sure which of these is closest).  I think the rest of the chassis is basically same dimension of a 991 (unless there has been a move to the platform shared across VW brands (usually major platform change only happens every 14 years and we are only at 7 with 991).


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    Re: Porsche 992 Fil de discussion fermé

    From the spy shots and videos we´ve seen (we can tell if it´s a S or not by the Single or Double Exhaust Tip but not if it´s a 2 or a 4 model). I dont think there will be any differences in the "wide department" between the Carrera 2/2S/4/4S. The Turbo is different story. That  ass looks huge.


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    Re: Porsche 992 Fil de discussion fermé

    The 991 4 Models were 4.4 cm (if not mistaken) wider than the 2 Models. The 992 is going be 5.6 cm wider than the current 991.2? It does look wide in spy photos.


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    Re: Porsche 992 Fil de discussion fermé

    The car is getting way  too big surprise 991.1 is already too big . 

    I would probably take an Alpine instead as a DD around city 


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    Re: Porsche 992 Fil de discussion fermé

    Gnil:

    The car is getting way  too big surprise 991.1 is already too big . 

    +1

    Air-cooled 911's were the correct size for me...


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    Re: Porsche 992 Fil de discussion fermé

    Agree on air-cooled when driving alone or with loved ones. Otherwise the cut off is 997 for me (while having bought a 991 anyway)...

    Took it over the Côte du Rosier on the first real drive. Would've preferred it being a tad smaller.

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    Re: Porsche 992 Fil de discussion fermé

    The 991 was stretched a little too far and even the 997 was pushing the limit of size. Porsche is going to run out the clock on the 911 until flagging sales force its retirement. The 928 "heir apparent" experience remains in the corporate consciousness and 911 profits remain strong, so the clock appears to be running for at least the 992 series  debut..


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    Re: Porsche 992 Fil de discussion fermé

    How big is the competition in comparison ?

    If they are the same, then Porsche is still on the right track.


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    Re: Porsche 992 Fil de discussion fermé

    However, the key attributes of the 911 have always been its compact dimensions when compared with its peers.  That shouldn't change because the competition are physically larger cars.


    Re: Porsche 992 Fil de discussion fermé

    This discussion reminded me of these old press photos...

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    Re: Porsche 992 Fil de discussion fermé

    Fair comparison but also consider this :  https://www.youtube.com/embed/pwGgRUkrnng

    Only 20 years between the two. Now imagine 55 years. angry

     


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    Re: Porsche 992 Fil de discussion fermé

    However, over the past thirty years the dimensions of the Mazda Miata remains relatively the same while weight has increased by about 15%.   Porsche, as befitting its significantly higher price, can incorporate higher strength materials to limit a weight increase.  


    Re: Porsche 992 Fil de discussion fermé

    Gauss:

    Fair comparison but also consider this :  https://www.youtube.com/embed/pwGgRUkrnng

    Only 20 years between the two. Now imagine 55 years. angry

    Here's 55 years.  Sorry 991.1 not quite parallel but you get the idea

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    Re: Porsche 992 Fil de discussion fermé

    Meaningless comparisons. 

     


    Re: Porsche 992 Fil de discussion fermé

    I think the 997 had the "perfect size" or better "proportion"! When i saw the 991 some 7 years ago in the press photos i liked the car but tought that their size was a little bit odd!!!

    I tought it was too long and too "thin" but after seeing it "In Loco" my Opinion changed completely (after all a Porsche looks a million times better Live than in photos).

    By the way, oficial photos of the 991 landed in the 21th of August of 2011, Frankurt Auto Show started in 13th of September. That´s why i´m a poiting a 9th - 15th of September timeline to the official 992 photos since Paris 2018 starts in the 4th of October.

    Would´t be suprised either with a official spy video testing in South Africa!!!!

    "History tends to repeat itself"

    Anyway....

    Judging by the Spy Photos & Videos (wider), i think the 992 will have those nice "size or proportion" (whatever you want to call it" like in the 997.

    By the way, the 997 is a freaking great Car. I have no doubt the 997 will be considered the "993" of the Water Cooled Engines in a few years if not already.

    Best Regards.

     

     


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