Feb 4, 2006 6:35:33 AM
- Whirlinturbin
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Feb 4, 2006 9:38:14 AM
- AS4s
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Re: Anyone regret getting Basalt Black over Black?
IMO, both look awesome, could be said that new and clean black looks even better, however I think basal stays cleaner longer and more importantly the paint retains its brightness (i don't know how to say it) for longer. As time goes by, black tends to get flat unless a lot of care (meaning endless hours fo waxing and polishing).
Feb 4, 2006 11:05:04 AM
- charliepug
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Re: Anyone regret getting Basalt Black over Black?
No regrets whatsoever!! had solid black for Boxster for 5 years and still looks "shiny" black (you'd still have to care for basalt too).. I did once regretted getting metallic black(obsidian black) for a merc I once owned.. had to live with it for 5 years knowing I should have gotten the solid black. Solid black to me looks a couple of shades darker.
Feb 4, 2006 2:46:49 PM
- twin turbo
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Feb 4, 2006 3:17:49 PM
- 911godspeed
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Re: Anyone regret getting Basalt Black over Black?
I went through the same decision process. Here is the bottom line:
-Get solid black if you like pure black. Only use touchless car wash to avoid swirl marks. Tell your dealer to not use anything but touchless or hand wash for initial delivery since it only takes one wash to get swirl marks.
-If you like seal grey and black both, get Basalt black. It will be somewhat less messy and you will get the best of the both worlds.
Personally, I think pure solid black looks beautifull. Check the thread I started a couple of weeks ago to look at images posted by various members.
-Get solid black if you like pure black. Only use touchless car wash to avoid swirl marks. Tell your dealer to not use anything but touchless or hand wash for initial delivery since it only takes one wash to get swirl marks.
-If you like seal grey and black both, get Basalt black. It will be somewhat less messy and you will get the best of the both worlds.
Personally, I think pure solid black looks beautifull. Check the thread I started a couple of weeks ago to look at images posted by various members.
Feb 4, 2006 3:50:06 PM
- GA
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Re: Anyone regret getting Basalt Black over Black?
I've had both- my black 997S and my wife had a Boxster S Basalt black. The solid black always looked better unless it was really dirty. When the basalt was clean and polished it looked nice but almost like jet black with a coat of sparkly dust on it; never has that deep, glossy jet black look. On the other side, the black requires a lot more diligent care. The basalt never showed the swirls with less upkeep. In the right light basalt looks very nice. The basalt always looks nice with minimal care; the jet black looks amazing when clean and polished- hard to keep it that way and doesn't look nice as long after it's cleaned. Depends how much work you plan to put into your paint.
Re: Anyone regret getting Basalt Black over Black?
I stressed about this exact decision for weeks when ordering my 997S, searched the forums, viewed tons of pictures and really did my homework.
While I still prefer the deep look of the solid black, the basalt black is almost a million times easier to maintain IMO.
The metallic hides the fine scratches and swirls very well. Took delivery of a solid black Mercedes CLS 2 months ago and while I love the look much better, the paint is already looking more depreciated than my year old basalt black 997S...and this is with the ceramic clear coat.
No regrets about ordering basalt here, simply because I am the kind of person that can't tolerate fine scratches and swirls.
At the end of the day it all depends on how much spare time you have for detailing and how well you tolerate swirls and scratches.
Just my 2 cents, Good luck
While I still prefer the deep look of the solid black, the basalt black is almost a million times easier to maintain IMO.
The metallic hides the fine scratches and swirls very well. Took delivery of a solid black Mercedes CLS 2 months ago and while I love the look much better, the paint is already looking more depreciated than my year old basalt black 997S...and this is with the ceramic clear coat.
No regrets about ordering basalt here, simply because I am the kind of person that can't tolerate fine scratches and swirls.
At the end of the day it all depends on how much spare time you have for detailing and how well you tolerate swirls and scratches.
Just my 2 cents, Good luck
Re: Anyone regret getting Basalt Black over Black?
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RAKLAW said:
Saw a Black Carrera GT and a Basalt C2S Cab side by side in bright sunlight. Easy decision for me. Ordered Black
and the fact that it was on a CGT didn't sway your decision @ all?
Guess I should be happy the CGT wasn't paint to sample pink
Re: Anyone regret getting Basalt Black over Black?
Guess I'll find out when I take delivery of my C2S during the week of Feb. 13-18. I ordered Basalt Black because I like a charcoal black (grayish black), I think it hides road tar spots better than the seal gray which I first considered, and because it won't show the dirt as quickly as the regular black, which I have to admit is classier looking when clean.
Jim
Jim
Re: Anyone regret getting Basalt Black over Black?
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Guess I'll find out when I take delivery of my C2S during the week of Feb. 13-18. I ordered Basalt Black because I like a charcoal black (grayish black), I think it hides road tar spots better than the seal gray which I first considered, and because it won't show the dirt as quickly as the regular black, which I have to admit is classier looking when clean.
Jim
Absolutely spot on Jim - my sentiments precisely.
If black is your choice and you can't clean the car every day then choose Basalt. I also like the 'sparkling effect' in sunlight that only comes with a metallic colour.
Feb 5, 2006 4:30:34 PM
- Silver Bullet
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Re: Anyone regret getting Basalt Black over Black?
Never had either, so this is just one man's opinion, but I think Basalt is one of the only great paint choices on a Porsche. Porsche paint and the paint selection are disappointing, but Basalt is a beautiful, rich, complex color that I absolutely love. For me at least, it's still too high maintenance, so I stick with Arctic Silver, but if I had the balls, I'd get Basalt!
Feb 5, 2006 4:39:37 PM
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Re: Anyone regret getting Basalt Black over Black?
I'm going with basalt, i see one next to my work and i stair at it for a while can't take my eyes off. it does not look dusty like other cars, it's shiny and it has some sparkels.
I would post some nice pics but don't know how really !!
I would post some nice pics but don't know how really !!
Re: Anyone regret getting Basalt Black over Black?
I thought Basalt looked somewhat brownish in the sun and didn't like it. I was hoping it was like the M3 metallic black which has a blue hue to it in the sun. I spent many days trying to decide between the two, but in the end went with black.
Re: Anyone regret getting Basalt Black over Black?
Not that you can really tell in a photo but here are a couple of pics of a 987S basalt black that I test drove a while ago.
The car, believe me, was dirty but you could not tell unless close to the car. Also, basalt black has a metalllic coating that gives the color a nice sparkle that you don't get with black. The coating sometimes decribed as "dust" disguises swirls, scracthes, dirt, etc.
I am pretty neutral on this discussion as opessed to others as my car is guards red, but although again I agree that black is nice, basalt black is easier to keep nice. This might or might not be a consideration for you. I am a clean freak when it comes to my car and could not live with black.
The car, believe me, was dirty but you could not tell unless close to the car. Also, basalt black has a metalllic coating that gives the color a nice sparkle that you don't get with black. The coating sometimes decribed as "dust" disguises swirls, scracthes, dirt, etc.
I am pretty neutral on this discussion as opessed to others
as my car is guards red, but although again I agree that black is nice, basalt black is easier to keep nice. This might or might not be a consideration for you. I am a clean freak when it comes to my car and could not live with black.
Feb 6, 2006 11:41:06 AM
- Porky Tokyo
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Re: Anyone regret getting Basalt Black over Black?
My 2 cents. I love both, was talked out solid black by my OPC salesman - I know him well and he was very keen I don't buy solid. I bought a new 996 in Basalt black and regretted it straight away BUT because it was SUCH a pain to clean HOWEVER, I still bought a 997 in Basalt black! Gluton for punishment!
Feb 6, 2006 6:16:04 PM
- Ente
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Re: Anyone regret getting Basalt Black over Black?
Depends on the local climate. If I was home in NC, I'd go solid black over metallic any day. Here in the UK, I'm glad I got basalt as it's near impossible to keep a solid black car clean in this climate, especially when it's parked outside.
Feb 6, 2006 6:30:10 PM
- Alex_997TT
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Re: Anyone regret getting Basalt Black over Black?
Yup, here in the UK I have a 'Basalt Black' 911 and a 'Pure Black' Audi. The Audi gets visibly dirtier MUCH quicker than the 911. Both look stunning polished up.
The thing I love about the basalt though is the multi-colours you can see as you get closer to it. IMHO, the slightly grey tinge makes the car much more understated and a little classier as a result.
The thing I love about the basalt though is the multi-colours you can see as you get closer to it. IMHO, the slightly grey tinge makes the car much more understated and a little classier as a result.
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