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    Feb 6, 2006 1:08:53 AM

    dsts6
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    Brammo cars! Perhaps the first proper American supercar

    www.brammo.com
    check it out,
    they are comming out with a midengine v8 and v12, american made. The design looks cool, perhaps a little European.

    Does anyone know about the Ariel Atom in the US and whether its attainable at this point. My father is consiering ordering one from Brammo who puts it together in the US.

    Feb 6, 2006 2:30:49 AM

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    Re: Brammo cars! Perhaps the first proper American supercar

    Quote:
    dsts6 said:
    www.brammo.com
    check it out,
    they are comming out with a midengine v8 and v12, american made. The design looks cool, perhaps a little European.

    Does anyone know about the Ariel Atom in the US and whether its attainable at this point. My father is consiering ordering one from Brammo who puts it together in the US.



    I understand Brammo sources the 2.0L Ecotec engine used in the CobaltSS for 140-300HP depending on specified package, and at 1,200lb, that makes for some good power-to-weight ratio figures (300/0.545 = 555HP/ton, those are Viper-esque numbers). Technically, it's a kit car, meaning, for you and your family in California, only 500 kit or "component" cars are registered per annum, so your Dad will have to get in line at his California DMV the first business day after New Year's of 2007 to register one, since the 500 are assigned in less than 48 hours. Being a kit car, the vehicle needs to be shipped to the USA in "pieces" (i.e., chassis sans engine and tranny) so Brammo would then do the install, and for the 300HP package, I think the whole deal is around $75,000.

    Good luck to you and your Dad.

    Feb 6, 2006 2:45:21 AM

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    Re: Brammo cars! Perhaps the first proper American supercar

    Well, I believe US customers can still get the K20 honda type R engine. Thanks for the info on the DMV issues

    Feb 6, 2006 1:56:11 PM

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    Re: Brammo cars! Perhaps the first proper American supercar

    The V12 (NA) Rogue GT supercar has got 850hp and 1000Nm.

    Feb 6, 2006 4:11:03 PM

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    Re: Brammo cars! Perhaps the first proper American supercar

    Are ECOTEC's German or American?

    Feb 7, 2006 3:44:33 AM

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    Re: Brammo cars! Perhaps the first proper American supercar

    apparently ecotecs are german made but gm uses them

    Feb 7, 2006 4:33:42 AM

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    "first proper American supercar?" I think not... what about the GT40 or the Ford GT. Hell, I would even put up a Saleen to say that it is a supercar (although I don't like it).

    Feb 7, 2006 6:17:42 AM

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    Re: Brammo cars! Perhaps the first proper American supercar

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    "first proper American supercar?" I think not... what about the GT40 or the Ford GT. Hell, I would even put up a Saleen to say that it is a supercar (although I don't like it).


    I think the Vectors would qualify in their day too...

    Feb 7, 2006 3:43:36 PM

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    Re: Brammo cars! Perhaps the first proper American supercar

    Brammo is no joke, maybe ..

    Here are a few articles about them.

    http://www.mailtribune.com/archive/2006/0111/local/stories/01local.htm

    http://www.itv-motoring.com/news/2006/january/11/7809.asp

    I question just where he is going to test and evolve this supercar. The I-5 Freeway? Oregon State Police are notorious
    ticket givers and radar ambushers. There is no suitable race track in Ashland Oregon.

    He can use all of the quality parts he can find and create a great sounding checklist of features, but the sum of them might not equal a "supercar" but just a supercar price.

    Feb 7, 2006 6:16:52 PM

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    THe thing about those american supercars you mentioned is that the GT not including the GT40, doesn't have much race peddigre, the engine is from a pick up truck, performs great but I donno about it, the salleen is fast but they apparently don't let top gear test, so I'm suspicious to how good it is and they seemed to go down the road of huge amount of liters

    Feb 7, 2006 7:06:56 PM

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    Re: Brammo cars! Perhaps the first proper American supercar

    Saleen is a eight-time Manufacturers' Champion in GT sports car racing with international victories.

    They apparently want more ...

    http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2006/01/04/205239.html
     
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