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    Sep 21, 2005 8:44:15 PM

    MKSGRM
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    Re: AMG continues hp war?

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    F can price 430s at roughly $60K above what P can price 997TTS




    Only in the US... In Europe, the 997TTS will most likely be slightly more expensive than the 430.



    Fair point....so, in Germany, an unknown guy can walk into a F dealer and spec a well-equipped 430Coupe and get it in 1-2 mos at MSRP of ?200K Euros??? Is a loaded 996TTSCoupe about 200K Euros as well? Is P able to charge more for its cars in German mkt, or is F forced to sell its cars at a disct in European mkts?....

    The US vs Euro differences are amusing....a loaded 996TTS Coupe lists at $155K and a loaded 430Coupe is $225K in US mkt....



    You have to queue up for the F430 in Germany as well. Current time to delivery is ca. 12 months. The question is whether you could have a new 997TTS within 1-2 months after its introduction next year...

    BTW: List price of the F430 in Germany is around 150k Euro (incl. VAT). I would be very surprised if the 997TTS would be any cheaper I paid more for my 996TT with lousy 450hp. If the new one gets 525hp the car will not be cheap given Porsche's average price per incremental hp

    Sep 21, 2005 9:13:29 PM

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    Re: AMG continues hp war?

    My dealer already has six(!) 997 Turbo pre-orders and he is a very little dealer. Now imagine how many pre-orders the large dealers have. And the rumor is that only 2-4 cars make it to EACH dealer before the factory holiday shutdown.
    I'd say that at the beginning, the Turbo and ESPECIALLY the Turbo S will have minimum 6 months waiting time, maybe even more.

    Regarding the F430: with the right connections to certain people who are involved in the german Ferrari scene, it is possible to get a F430 in maximum 6 months but without being able to spec it like you want to. A very few cars are even available for immediate delivery but it is very difficult to put your hands on them and as far as I heard, they have FULL options, making them pretty expensive.

    Sep 21, 2005 9:13:29 PM

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    Re: AMG continues hp war?

    My dealer already has six(!) 997 Turbo pre-orders and he is a very little dealer. Now imagine how many pre-orders the large dealers have. And the rumor is that only 2-4 cars make it to EACH dealer before the factory holiday shutdown.
    I'd say that at the beginning, the Turbo and ESPECIALLY the Turbo S will have minimum 6 months waiting time, maybe even more.

    Regarding the F430: with the right connections to certain people who are involved in the german Ferrari scene, it is possible to get a F430 in maximum 6 months but without being able to spec it like you want to. A very few cars are even available for immediate delivery but it is very difficult to put your hands on them and as far as I heard, they have FULL options, making them pretty expensive.
     
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