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Incredible machine, I would like to have one instead of my Cayenne Turbo when the kids are a little bit older. 
Re: S65 AMG
basically it's the same engine, they have changed small things... (like making the intercooler smaller). In fact, here is the info for ya (since you have an sl65).
"This exclusive performance is made possible by the 5980-cc V12 engine developed by Mercedes-AMG. The engine's credentials are outstanding: maximum output of 450 kW/612 hp is maintained from 4750 to 5100 rpm, while the maximum torque of 1000 Nm can be called on from 2000 to 4000 rpm. Even as low as 1000 rpm, the AMG V12 biturbo engine already delivers 570 Nm of torque to the crankshaft, while 750 Nm is on tap at 1500 rpm.
When designing and building the V12 engine the AMG designers drew on the vast know-how amassed over many years of motorsport involvement. The AMG V12 engine has a precision-balanced crankshaft made out of high-strength materials, forged pistons made out of special material which is extremely resistant to temperature and pressure, a more effective oil-spray cooling system with a separate individual nozzle for each piston plus larger piston pins. The main and big-end bearings are also made out of improved materials to compensate for peak temperatures and pressures more effectively. The charge cycle in the cylinder heads benefits from optimised combustion chambers and longer opening times of the intake valves. A modified oil pump ensures that all lubrication points are supplied with oil - even in highly demanding conditions. An engine oil cooler is integrated into the AMG front apron, with an additional engine coolant radiator located in the wheel arch.
Highly efficient charge-air cooler
The charge-air cooler has also been redesigned with a low-temperature radiator in the front of the vehicle that is around 70 percent larger. The system works on the principle of the air/water heat exchanger for particularly effective cooling of the intake air (which has been compressed by the turbochargers) before it enters the combustion chambers. The increased surface area of the low-temperature radiator provides a 25 percent reduction in intake temperature and guarantees high power and torque output under all operating conditions and regardless of the outside temperature, even when the engine is operating at full load. The housings of the compressor and turbine in both turbochargers as well as the turbine and compressor wheels have been enlarged to cope with the maximum charge pressure of 1.5 bar.
The electronically controlled fuel supply with newly developed components operates with a variable system pressure between 3.6 and 5.0 bar. Depending on the power requirements and outside temperature, the fuel pressure is variably controlled almost instantly. The engine management system translates the command from the accelerator within milliseconds, delivering an extremely fast response from the engine in all load situations.
AMG sports exhaust system for typical AMG twelve-cylinder vocals
The AMG sports exhaust system with two twin chrome tailpipes in the new V12 design provides the telltale AMG twelve-cylinder vocals on the new S 65 AMG. The new tri-metallic coating used in the catalytic converters provides a faster response from a cold start, improved emission control as well as longer life. Naturally the S 65 AMG fulfils all standard exhaust emissions limits such as EU 4. The ultra-powerful twelve-cylinder unit takes the specific requirements of the U.S. market such as LEV II, "On-Board Diagnosis II" and oxygen sensor diagnosis in its stride.
The special position of the AMG V12 engine was singled out at the "International Engine of the Year Awards 2004": in the "Best Performance Engine" category the jury chose the 450-kW/612-hp AMG engine as the winner, beating off a field of 70 renowned competitors from Europe, the USA and Japan. In the AMG engine manufacturing facility, each engine is traditionally hand-built according to the "One man, one engine" philosophy. That means that each complete AMG V12 engine is assembled from start to finish by a single technician - documented with the technician's signature on the AMG engine plate.
World first: newly developed AMG high-performance composite brakes
The completely newly developed AMG high-performance composite brakes based on the ADAPTIVE BRAKE system set new standards in terms of stopping distances, sensitivity and durability. A new twin sliding calliper is used for the front brakes, the kind of innovation people have come to expect from AMG. This new, unique technology combines the advantages of a floating-calliper brake - lower heat transfer to the brake fluid and significantly improved ride comfort due to the way the brake pads are located - with the performance of a large fixed-calliper brake. At the rear a large sliding frame-type calliper provides the braking. Composite brake discs at the front and rear with a diameter of 390 and 365 millimetres respectively ensure the shortest stopping distances, remarkable strength and outstanding sensitivity. The dual-circuit hydraulic braking system is controlled electronically and supports numerous driver assistance functions that improve safety and comfort. Multi-piece 19-inch AMG light-alloy wheels with mixed tyres provide the contact with the road. 255/40 ZR 19 tyres are fitted on 8.5-inch-wide wheels at the front, while 275/40 ZR 19 tyres combine with 9.5-inch-wide wheels at the rear.
AMG SPEEDSHIFT 5-speed automatic transmission with steering-wheel gearshift paddles
The drive power is transferred to the wheels in the new S 65 AMG via the AMG SPEEDSHIFT five-speed automatic transmission with AMG steering-wheel gearshift paddles and DIRECT SELECT gearshift. The conventional automatic selector lever in the centre console is replaced by a lever on the steering column, which the driver nudges to select the transmission settings "P", "N", "R" and "D".
The driver can use the "S/C/M" mode button in the centre console to select from the "Sport", "Comfort" and "Manual" shift programmes that not only change the transmission characteristics but also the accelerator response and the spring/damper settings of the AMG sports suspension based on Active Body Control. The gears can also be shifted at any time using the silver-coloured aluminium gearshift paddles on the AMG ergonomic sports steering wheel.
High torque requires a reinforced powertrain
The unrivalled 1000 Nm torque requires a systematically reinforced powertrain on the S 65 AMG. In the automatic transmission this includes newly developed clutch plates with a high-quality metallic coating and the modified shift and torque converter logic. Redesigned drive shafts, larger hub carriers as well as strengthened steel spring links supplement these measures.
AMG sports suspension based on Active Body Control
The AMG sports suspension with the Active Body Control system is the perfect complement to the sophisticated drive technology. The active suspension reduces almost all of the body movements that occur when moving off, negotiating bends and braking. Bends are negotiated with far less roll; the body roll with fast evasive manoeuvring is effectively suppressed. Compared with the previous model, the second-generation Active Body Control is even more effective, for instance in reducing body movements in any given driving situation. Thus the S 65 AMG opens up new dimensions in dynamic handling - while offering appreciably improved ride comfort.
Unmistakable AMG bodystyling creates a distinctive look
Hallmark Mercedes elegance coupled with distinctive sportiness - the first impression you get from the new S 65 AMG. The new AMG bodystyling is combined superbly with the pronounced flared wheel arches, providing a markedly poised and assured appearance. At the front the redesigned AMG front apron with enlarged air intakes adds an athletic touch. The two slanted struts and integrated round fog lamps set in chrome rings make the S-Class look even wider and lower. The side skirts take up the line of the AMG front apron and emphasise the dynamic feel of the side view; all reinforced through the "V12 biturbo" lettering on the front wings.
The new multi-piece 19-inch five-spoke AMG light-alloy wheels with a star on the centre of the wheel painted in titanium grey blend harmoniously into the overall lines and represent additional highlights. The powerful AMG bodystyling design of the rear apron and the AMG sports exhaust system comprising two combined twin tailpipes in the new V12 design provide the perfect finishing touches.
Exclusive interior appointments with multicontour seats and "RACETIMER"
The exclusive interior appointments fit in perfectly with the dynamic exterior: open the door and the S 65 AMG welcomes the driver with a large AMG logo in the AMG instrument cluster's central display. The integrated custom AMG main menu constantly displays the gear currently selected as well as recommending when to shift up to the next gear. There is also a choice of engine oil temperature, the battery voltage or the "RACETIMER". This new function enables the driver for the first time to calculate lap times in the AMG model - on a private racetrack, for instance. The RACETIMER stores the time of the fastest lap, the average and top speed as well as the lap distance; all the information can be called up conveniently using the thumb-operated buttons on the AMG ergonomic sports steering wheel. The AMG instrument cluster with its 360-km/h dial discreetly indicates the performance of the S 65 AMG.
The extensive burr walnut trim, the "Exclusive PASSION" leather upholstery and the AMG dynamic sports seats with their own distinctive design add that touch of distinctive flair. The AMG ergonomic sports steering wheel with its specially sculpted rim and the AMG aluminium gearshift paddles with "up" and "down" lettering is a joy to hold and behold. One of the most eye-catching features in the interior of the new S 65 AMG is the exclusive analogue clock with its "IWC Ingenieur" design in the centre console. High-quality AMG door sill panels provide the finishing touch for the interior."
"This exclusive performance is made possible by the 5980-cc V12 engine developed by Mercedes-AMG. The engine's credentials are outstanding: maximum output of 450 kW/612 hp is maintained from 4750 to 5100 rpm, while the maximum torque of 1000 Nm can be called on from 2000 to 4000 rpm. Even as low as 1000 rpm, the AMG V12 biturbo engine already delivers 570 Nm of torque to the crankshaft, while 750 Nm is on tap at 1500 rpm.
When designing and building the V12 engine the AMG designers drew on the vast know-how amassed over many years of motorsport involvement. The AMG V12 engine has a precision-balanced crankshaft made out of high-strength materials, forged pistons made out of special material which is extremely resistant to temperature and pressure, a more effective oil-spray cooling system with a separate individual nozzle for each piston plus larger piston pins. The main and big-end bearings are also made out of improved materials to compensate for peak temperatures and pressures more effectively. The charge cycle in the cylinder heads benefits from optimised combustion chambers and longer opening times of the intake valves. A modified oil pump ensures that all lubrication points are supplied with oil - even in highly demanding conditions. An engine oil cooler is integrated into the AMG front apron, with an additional engine coolant radiator located in the wheel arch.
Highly efficient charge-air cooler
The charge-air cooler has also been redesigned with a low-temperature radiator in the front of the vehicle that is around 70 percent larger. The system works on the principle of the air/water heat exchanger for particularly effective cooling of the intake air (which has been compressed by the turbochargers) before it enters the combustion chambers. The increased surface area of the low-temperature radiator provides a 25 percent reduction in intake temperature and guarantees high power and torque output under all operating conditions and regardless of the outside temperature, even when the engine is operating at full load. The housings of the compressor and turbine in both turbochargers as well as the turbine and compressor wheels have been enlarged to cope with the maximum charge pressure of 1.5 bar.
The electronically controlled fuel supply with newly developed components operates with a variable system pressure between 3.6 and 5.0 bar. Depending on the power requirements and outside temperature, the fuel pressure is variably controlled almost instantly. The engine management system translates the command from the accelerator within milliseconds, delivering an extremely fast response from the engine in all load situations.
AMG sports exhaust system for typical AMG twelve-cylinder vocals
The AMG sports exhaust system with two twin chrome tailpipes in the new V12 design provides the telltale AMG twelve-cylinder vocals on the new S 65 AMG. The new tri-metallic coating used in the catalytic converters provides a faster response from a cold start, improved emission control as well as longer life. Naturally the S 65 AMG fulfils all standard exhaust emissions limits such as EU 4. The ultra-powerful twelve-cylinder unit takes the specific requirements of the U.S. market such as LEV II, "On-Board Diagnosis II" and oxygen sensor diagnosis in its stride.
The special position of the AMG V12 engine was singled out at the "International Engine of the Year Awards 2004": in the "Best Performance Engine" category the jury chose the 450-kW/612-hp AMG engine as the winner, beating off a field of 70 renowned competitors from Europe, the USA and Japan. In the AMG engine manufacturing facility, each engine is traditionally hand-built according to the "One man, one engine" philosophy. That means that each complete AMG V12 engine is assembled from start to finish by a single technician - documented with the technician's signature on the AMG engine plate.
World first: newly developed AMG high-performance composite brakes
The completely newly developed AMG high-performance composite brakes based on the ADAPTIVE BRAKE system set new standards in terms of stopping distances, sensitivity and durability. A new twin sliding calliper is used for the front brakes, the kind of innovation people have come to expect from AMG. This new, unique technology combines the advantages of a floating-calliper brake - lower heat transfer to the brake fluid and significantly improved ride comfort due to the way the brake pads are located - with the performance of a large fixed-calliper brake. At the rear a large sliding frame-type calliper provides the braking. Composite brake discs at the front and rear with a diameter of 390 and 365 millimetres respectively ensure the shortest stopping distances, remarkable strength and outstanding sensitivity. The dual-circuit hydraulic braking system is controlled electronically and supports numerous driver assistance functions that improve safety and comfort. Multi-piece 19-inch AMG light-alloy wheels with mixed tyres provide the contact with the road. 255/40 ZR 19 tyres are fitted on 8.5-inch-wide wheels at the front, while 275/40 ZR 19 tyres combine with 9.5-inch-wide wheels at the rear.
AMG SPEEDSHIFT 5-speed automatic transmission with steering-wheel gearshift paddles
The drive power is transferred to the wheels in the new S 65 AMG via the AMG SPEEDSHIFT five-speed automatic transmission with AMG steering-wheel gearshift paddles and DIRECT SELECT gearshift. The conventional automatic selector lever in the centre console is replaced by a lever on the steering column, which the driver nudges to select the transmission settings "P", "N", "R" and "D".
The driver can use the "S/C/M" mode button in the centre console to select from the "Sport", "Comfort" and "Manual" shift programmes that not only change the transmission characteristics but also the accelerator response and the spring/damper settings of the AMG sports suspension based on Active Body Control. The gears can also be shifted at any time using the silver-coloured aluminium gearshift paddles on the AMG ergonomic sports steering wheel.
High torque requires a reinforced powertrain
The unrivalled 1000 Nm torque requires a systematically reinforced powertrain on the S 65 AMG. In the automatic transmission this includes newly developed clutch plates with a high-quality metallic coating and the modified shift and torque converter logic. Redesigned drive shafts, larger hub carriers as well as strengthened steel spring links supplement these measures.
AMG sports suspension based on Active Body Control
The AMG sports suspension with the Active Body Control system is the perfect complement to the sophisticated drive technology. The active suspension reduces almost all of the body movements that occur when moving off, negotiating bends and braking. Bends are negotiated with far less roll; the body roll with fast evasive manoeuvring is effectively suppressed. Compared with the previous model, the second-generation Active Body Control is even more effective, for instance in reducing body movements in any given driving situation. Thus the S 65 AMG opens up new dimensions in dynamic handling - while offering appreciably improved ride comfort.
Unmistakable AMG bodystyling creates a distinctive look
Hallmark Mercedes elegance coupled with distinctive sportiness - the first impression you get from the new S 65 AMG. The new AMG bodystyling is combined superbly with the pronounced flared wheel arches, providing a markedly poised and assured appearance. At the front the redesigned AMG front apron with enlarged air intakes adds an athletic touch. The two slanted struts and integrated round fog lamps set in chrome rings make the S-Class look even wider and lower. The side skirts take up the line of the AMG front apron and emphasise the dynamic feel of the side view; all reinforced through the "V12 biturbo" lettering on the front wings.
The new multi-piece 19-inch five-spoke AMG light-alloy wheels with a star on the centre of the wheel painted in titanium grey blend harmoniously into the overall lines and represent additional highlights. The powerful AMG bodystyling design of the rear apron and the AMG sports exhaust system comprising two combined twin tailpipes in the new V12 design provide the perfect finishing touches.
Exclusive interior appointments with multicontour seats and "RACETIMER"
The exclusive interior appointments fit in perfectly with the dynamic exterior: open the door and the S 65 AMG welcomes the driver with a large AMG logo in the AMG instrument cluster's central display. The integrated custom AMG main menu constantly displays the gear currently selected as well as recommending when to shift up to the next gear. There is also a choice of engine oil temperature, the battery voltage or the "RACETIMER". This new function enables the driver for the first time to calculate lap times in the AMG model - on a private racetrack, for instance. The RACETIMER stores the time of the fastest lap, the average and top speed as well as the lap distance; all the information can be called up conveniently using the thumb-operated buttons on the AMG ergonomic sports steering wheel. The AMG instrument cluster with its 360-km/h dial discreetly indicates the performance of the S 65 AMG.
The extensive burr walnut trim, the "Exclusive PASSION" leather upholstery and the AMG dynamic sports seats with their own distinctive design add that touch of distinctive flair. The AMG ergonomic sports steering wheel with its specially sculpted rim and the AMG aluminium gearshift paddles with "up" and "down" lettering is a joy to hold and behold. One of the most eye-catching features in the interior of the new S 65 AMG is the exclusive analogue clock with its "IWC Ingenieur" design in the centre console. High-quality AMG door sill panels provide the finishing touch for the interior."
Re: S65 AMG
basically it's the same engine, they have changed small things... (like making the intercooler smaller). In fact, here is the info for ya (since you have an sl65).
"This exclusive performance is made possible by the 5980-cc V12 engine developed by Mercedes-AMG. The engine's credentials are outstanding: maximum output of 450 kW/612 hp is maintained from 4750 to 5100 rpm, while the maximum torque of 1000 Nm can be called on from 2000 to 4000 rpm. Even as low as 1000 rpm, the AMG V12 biturbo engine already delivers 570 Nm of torque to the crankshaft, while 750 Nm is on tap at 1500 rpm.
When designing and building the V12 engine the AMG designers drew on the vast know-how amassed over many years of motorsport involvement. The AMG V12 engine has a precision-balanced crankshaft made out of high-strength materials, forged pistons made out of special material which is extremely resistant to temperature and pressure, a more effective oil-spray cooling system with a separate individual nozzle for each piston plus larger piston pins. The main and big-end bearings are also made out of improved materials to compensate for peak temperatures and pressures more effectively. The charge cycle in the cylinder heads benefits from optimised combustion chambers and longer opening times of the intake valves. A modified oil pump ensures that all lubrication points are supplied with oil - even in highly demanding conditions. An engine oil cooler is integrated into the AMG front apron, with an additional engine coolant radiator located in the wheel arch.
Highly efficient charge-air cooler
The charge-air cooler has also been redesigned with a low-temperature radiator in the front of the vehicle that is around 70 percent larger. The system works on the principle of the air/water heat exchanger for particularly effective cooling of the intake air (which has been compressed by the turbochargers) before it enters the combustion chambers. The increased surface area of the low-temperature radiator provides a 25 percent reduction in intake temperature and guarantees high power and torque output under all operating conditions and regardless of the outside temperature, even when the engine is operating at full load. The housings of the compressor and turbine in both turbochargers as well as the turbine and compressor wheels have been enlarged to cope with the maximum charge pressure of 1.5 bar.
The electronically controlled fuel supply with newly developed components operates with a variable system pressure between 3.6 and 5.0 bar. Depending on the power requirements and outside temperature, the fuel pressure is variably controlled almost instantly. The engine management system translates the command from the accelerator within milliseconds, delivering an extremely fast response from the engine in all load situations.
AMG sports exhaust system for typical AMG twelve-cylinder vocals
The AMG sports exhaust system with two twin chrome tailpipes in the new V12 design provides the telltale AMG twelve-cylinder vocals on the new S 65 AMG. The new tri-metallic coating used in the catalytic converters provides a faster response from a cold start, improved emission control as well as longer life. Naturally the S 65 AMG fulfils all standard exhaust emissions limits such as EU 4. The ultra-powerful twelve-cylinder unit takes the specific requirements of the U.S. market such as LEV II, "On-Board Diagnosis II" and oxygen sensor diagnosis in its stride.
The special position of the AMG V12 engine was singled out at the "International Engine of the Year Awards 2004": in the "Best Performance Engine" category the jury chose the 450-kW/612-hp AMG engine as the winner, beating off a field of 70 renowned competitors from Europe, the USA and Japan. In the AMG engine manufacturing facility, each engine is traditionally hand-built according to the "One man, one engine" philosophy. That means that each complete AMG V12 engine is assembled from start to finish by a single technician - documented with the technician's signature on the AMG engine plate.
World first: newly developed AMG high-performance composite brakes
The completely newly developed AMG high-performance composite brakes based on the ADAPTIVE BRAKE system set new standards in terms of stopping distances, sensitivity and durability. A new twin sliding calliper is used for the front brakes, the kind of innovation people have come to expect from AMG. This new, unique technology combines the advantages of a floating-calliper brake - lower heat transfer to the brake fluid and significantly improved ride comfort due to the way the brake pads are located - with the performance of a large fixed-calliper brake. At the rear a large sliding frame-type calliper provides the braking. Composite brake discs at the front and rear with a diameter of 390 and 365 millimetres respectively ensure the shortest stopping distances, remarkable strength and outstanding sensitivity. The dual-circuit hydraulic braking system is controlled electronically and supports numerous driver assistance functions that improve safety and comfort. Multi-piece 19-inch AMG light-alloy wheels with mixed tyres provide the contact with the road. 255/40 ZR 19 tyres are fitted on 8.5-inch-wide wheels at the front, while 275/40 ZR 19 tyres combine with 9.5-inch-wide wheels at the rear.
AMG SPEEDSHIFT 5-speed automatic transmission with steering-wheel gearshift paddles
The drive power is transferred to the wheels in the new S 65 AMG via the AMG SPEEDSHIFT five-speed automatic transmission with AMG steering-wheel gearshift paddles and DIRECT SELECT gearshift. The conventional automatic selector lever in the centre console is replaced by a lever on the steering column, which the driver nudges to select the transmission settings "P", "N", "R" and "D".
The driver can use the "S/C/M" mode button in the centre console to select from the "Sport", "Comfort" and "Manual" shift programmes that not only change the transmission characteristics but also the accelerator response and the spring/damper settings of the AMG sports suspension based on Active Body Control. The gears can also be shifted at any time using the silver-coloured aluminium gearshift paddles on the AMG ergonomic sports steering wheel.
High torque requires a reinforced powertrain
The unrivalled 1000 Nm torque requires a systematically reinforced powertrain on the S 65 AMG. In the automatic transmission this includes newly developed clutch plates with a high-quality metallic coating and the modified shift and torque converter logic. Redesigned drive shafts, larger hub carriers as well as strengthened steel spring links supplement these measures.
AMG sports suspension based on Active Body Control
The AMG sports suspension with the Active Body Control system is the perfect complement to the sophisticated drive technology. The active suspension reduces almost all of the body movements that occur when moving off, negotiating bends and braking. Bends are negotiated with far less roll; the body roll with fast evasive manoeuvring is effectively suppressed. Compared with the previous model, the second-generation Active Body Control is even more effective, for instance in reducing body movements in any given driving situation. Thus the S 65 AMG opens up new dimensions in dynamic handling - while offering appreciably improved ride comfort.
Unmistakable AMG bodystyling creates a distinctive look
Hallmark Mercedes elegance coupled with distinctive sportiness - the first impression you get from the new S 65 AMG. The new AMG bodystyling is combined superbly with the pronounced flared wheel arches, providing a markedly poised and assured appearance. At the front the redesigned AMG front apron with enlarged air intakes adds an athletic touch. The two slanted struts and integrated round fog lamps set in chrome rings make the S-Class look even wider and lower. The side skirts take up the line of the AMG front apron and emphasise the dynamic feel of the side view; all reinforced through the "V12 biturbo" lettering on the front wings.
The new multi-piece 19-inch five-spoke AMG light-alloy wheels with a star on the centre of the wheel painted in titanium grey blend harmoniously into the overall lines and represent additional highlights. The powerful AMG bodystyling design of the rear apron and the AMG sports exhaust system comprising two combined twin tailpipes in the new V12 design provide the perfect finishing touches.
Exclusive interior appointments with multicontour seats and "RACETIMER"
The exclusive interior appointments fit in perfectly with the dynamic exterior: open the door and the S 65 AMG welcomes the driver with a large AMG logo in the AMG instrument cluster's central display. The integrated custom AMG main menu constantly displays the gear currently selected as well as recommending when to shift up to the next gear. There is also a choice of engine oil temperature, the battery voltage or the "RACETIMER". This new function enables the driver for the first time to calculate lap times in the AMG model - on a private racetrack, for instance. The RACETIMER stores the time of the fastest lap, the average and top speed as well as the lap distance; all the information can be called up conveniently using the thumb-operated buttons on the AMG ergonomic sports steering wheel. The AMG instrument cluster with its 360-km/h dial discreetly indicates the performance of the S 65 AMG.
The extensive burr walnut trim, the "Exclusive PASSION" leather upholstery and the AMG dynamic sports seats with their own distinctive design add that touch of distinctive flair. The AMG ergonomic sports steering wheel with its specially sculpted rim and the AMG aluminium gearshift paddles with "up" and "down" lettering is a joy to hold and behold. One of the most eye-catching features in the interior of the new S 65 AMG is the exclusive analogue clock with its "IWC Ingenieur" design in the centre console. High-quality AMG door sill panels provide the finishing touch for the interior."
"This exclusive performance is made possible by the 5980-cc V12 engine developed by Mercedes-AMG. The engine's credentials are outstanding: maximum output of 450 kW/612 hp is maintained from 4750 to 5100 rpm, while the maximum torque of 1000 Nm can be called on from 2000 to 4000 rpm. Even as low as 1000 rpm, the AMG V12 biturbo engine already delivers 570 Nm of torque to the crankshaft, while 750 Nm is on tap at 1500 rpm.
When designing and building the V12 engine the AMG designers drew on the vast know-how amassed over many years of motorsport involvement. The AMG V12 engine has a precision-balanced crankshaft made out of high-strength materials, forged pistons made out of special material which is extremely resistant to temperature and pressure, a more effective oil-spray cooling system with a separate individual nozzle for each piston plus larger piston pins. The main and big-end bearings are also made out of improved materials to compensate for peak temperatures and pressures more effectively. The charge cycle in the cylinder heads benefits from optimised combustion chambers and longer opening times of the intake valves. A modified oil pump ensures that all lubrication points are supplied with oil - even in highly demanding conditions. An engine oil cooler is integrated into the AMG front apron, with an additional engine coolant radiator located in the wheel arch.
Highly efficient charge-air cooler
The charge-air cooler has also been redesigned with a low-temperature radiator in the front of the vehicle that is around 70 percent larger. The system works on the principle of the air/water heat exchanger for particularly effective cooling of the intake air (which has been compressed by the turbochargers) before it enters the combustion chambers. The increased surface area of the low-temperature radiator provides a 25 percent reduction in intake temperature and guarantees high power and torque output under all operating conditions and regardless of the outside temperature, even when the engine is operating at full load. The housings of the compressor and turbine in both turbochargers as well as the turbine and compressor wheels have been enlarged to cope with the maximum charge pressure of 1.5 bar.
The electronically controlled fuel supply with newly developed components operates with a variable system pressure between 3.6 and 5.0 bar. Depending on the power requirements and outside temperature, the fuel pressure is variably controlled almost instantly. The engine management system translates the command from the accelerator within milliseconds, delivering an extremely fast response from the engine in all load situations.
AMG sports exhaust system for typical AMG twelve-cylinder vocals
The AMG sports exhaust system with two twin chrome tailpipes in the new V12 design provides the telltale AMG twelve-cylinder vocals on the new S 65 AMG. The new tri-metallic coating used in the catalytic converters provides a faster response from a cold start, improved emission control as well as longer life. Naturally the S 65 AMG fulfils all standard exhaust emissions limits such as EU 4. The ultra-powerful twelve-cylinder unit takes the specific requirements of the U.S. market such as LEV II, "On-Board Diagnosis II" and oxygen sensor diagnosis in its stride.
The special position of the AMG V12 engine was singled out at the "International Engine of the Year Awards 2004": in the "Best Performance Engine" category the jury chose the 450-kW/612-hp AMG engine as the winner, beating off a field of 70 renowned competitors from Europe, the USA and Japan. In the AMG engine manufacturing facility, each engine is traditionally hand-built according to the "One man, one engine" philosophy. That means that each complete AMG V12 engine is assembled from start to finish by a single technician - documented with the technician's signature on the AMG engine plate.
World first: newly developed AMG high-performance composite brakes
The completely newly developed AMG high-performance composite brakes based on the ADAPTIVE BRAKE system set new standards in terms of stopping distances, sensitivity and durability. A new twin sliding calliper is used for the front brakes, the kind of innovation people have come to expect from AMG. This new, unique technology combines the advantages of a floating-calliper brake - lower heat transfer to the brake fluid and significantly improved ride comfort due to the way the brake pads are located - with the performance of a large fixed-calliper brake. At the rear a large sliding frame-type calliper provides the braking. Composite brake discs at the front and rear with a diameter of 390 and 365 millimetres respectively ensure the shortest stopping distances, remarkable strength and outstanding sensitivity. The dual-circuit hydraulic braking system is controlled electronically and supports numerous driver assistance functions that improve safety and comfort. Multi-piece 19-inch AMG light-alloy wheels with mixed tyres provide the contact with the road. 255/40 ZR 19 tyres are fitted on 8.5-inch-wide wheels at the front, while 275/40 ZR 19 tyres combine with 9.5-inch-wide wheels at the rear.
AMG SPEEDSHIFT 5-speed automatic transmission with steering-wheel gearshift paddles
The drive power is transferred to the wheels in the new S 65 AMG via the AMG SPEEDSHIFT five-speed automatic transmission with AMG steering-wheel gearshift paddles and DIRECT SELECT gearshift. The conventional automatic selector lever in the centre console is replaced by a lever on the steering column, which the driver nudges to select the transmission settings "P", "N", "R" and "D".
The driver can use the "S/C/M" mode button in the centre console to select from the "Sport", "Comfort" and "Manual" shift programmes that not only change the transmission characteristics but also the accelerator response and the spring/damper settings of the AMG sports suspension based on Active Body Control. The gears can also be shifted at any time using the silver-coloured aluminium gearshift paddles on the AMG ergonomic sports steering wheel.
High torque requires a reinforced powertrain
The unrivalled 1000 Nm torque requires a systematically reinforced powertrain on the S 65 AMG. In the automatic transmission this includes newly developed clutch plates with a high-quality metallic coating and the modified shift and torque converter logic. Redesigned drive shafts, larger hub carriers as well as strengthened steel spring links supplement these measures.
AMG sports suspension based on Active Body Control
The AMG sports suspension with the Active Body Control system is the perfect complement to the sophisticated drive technology. The active suspension reduces almost all of the body movements that occur when moving off, negotiating bends and braking. Bends are negotiated with far less roll; the body roll with fast evasive manoeuvring is effectively suppressed. Compared with the previous model, the second-generation Active Body Control is even more effective, for instance in reducing body movements in any given driving situation. Thus the S 65 AMG opens up new dimensions in dynamic handling - while offering appreciably improved ride comfort.
Unmistakable AMG bodystyling creates a distinctive look
Hallmark Mercedes elegance coupled with distinctive sportiness - the first impression you get from the new S 65 AMG. The new AMG bodystyling is combined superbly with the pronounced flared wheel arches, providing a markedly poised and assured appearance. At the front the redesigned AMG front apron with enlarged air intakes adds an athletic touch. The two slanted struts and integrated round fog lamps set in chrome rings make the S-Class look even wider and lower. The side skirts take up the line of the AMG front apron and emphasise the dynamic feel of the side view; all reinforced through the "V12 biturbo" lettering on the front wings.
The new multi-piece 19-inch five-spoke AMG light-alloy wheels with a star on the centre of the wheel painted in titanium grey blend harmoniously into the overall lines and represent additional highlights. The powerful AMG bodystyling design of the rear apron and the AMG sports exhaust system comprising two combined twin tailpipes in the new V12 design provide the perfect finishing touches.
Exclusive interior appointments with multicontour seats and "RACETIMER"
The exclusive interior appointments fit in perfectly with the dynamic exterior: open the door and the S 65 AMG welcomes the driver with a large AMG logo in the AMG instrument cluster's central display. The integrated custom AMG main menu constantly displays the gear currently selected as well as recommending when to shift up to the next gear. There is also a choice of engine oil temperature, the battery voltage or the "RACETIMER". This new function enables the driver for the first time to calculate lap times in the AMG model - on a private racetrack, for instance. The RACETIMER stores the time of the fastest lap, the average and top speed as well as the lap distance; all the information can be called up conveniently using the thumb-operated buttons on the AMG ergonomic sports steering wheel. The AMG instrument cluster with its 360-km/h dial discreetly indicates the performance of the S 65 AMG.
The extensive burr walnut trim, the "Exclusive PASSION" leather upholstery and the AMG dynamic sports seats with their own distinctive design add that touch of distinctive flair. The AMG ergonomic sports steering wheel with its specially sculpted rim and the AMG aluminium gearshift paddles with "up" and "down" lettering is a joy to hold and behold. One of the most eye-catching features in the interior of the new S 65 AMG is the exclusive analogue clock with its "IWC Ingenieur" design in the centre console. High-quality AMG door sill panels provide the finishing touch for the interior."
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It is pretty much the "balls" when it comes to luxury sedans. BMW has nothign to counter it at all.
If I needed a family hauler/commuting limo, S65 would be my easy choice....world's safest, most comfortable sedan....
BMW doesn't have a buyer base for $100K+ cars, let alone roughly $200K commuter cars....given how profitable 55/65 are for Merc, it's obvious BMW/Lexus would go after this lucrative mkt if they could....
But given BMW can't seem to even develop competent brakes and has steering feel about as anesthetic as an S/CL's (where's the performance car touch@BMW??)....and BMW can't seem to even develop competent air cond sys or fit its cars w/>22gall fuel tanks (where's the GT car touch@BMW??), I'm not at all surprised BMW has never succeeded in the $100K+ league....
Guys buying $200K 65's who also enjoy non-straight-line performance/feel typically own P/F for wkend use in the curves and use 65 for daily straight-line commuting duty....BMW does neither straight-line commuting nor wkend mtn twisties particularly well....
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0two9 said:
It is pretty much the "balls" when it comes to luxury sedans. BMW has nothign to counter it at all.
If I needed a family hauler/commuting limo, S65 would be my easy choice....world's safest, most comfortable sedan....
BMW doesn't have a buyer base for $100K+ cars, let alone roughly $200K commuter cars....given how profitable 55/65 are for Merc, it's obvious BMW/Lexus would go after this lucrative mkt if they could....
But given BMW can't seem to even develop competent brakes and has steering feel about as anesthetic as an S/CL's (where's the performance car touch@BMW??)....and BMW can't seem to even develop competent air cond sys or fit its cars w/>22gall fuel tanks (where's the GT car touch@BMW??), I'm not at all surprised BMW has never succeeded in the $100K+ league....
Guys buying $200K 65's who also enjoy non-straight-line performance/feel typically own P/F for wkend use in the curves and use 65 for daily straight-line commuting duty....BMW does neither straight-line commuting nor wkend mtn twisties particularly well....
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Sorry, but the new S65 is a design and artistic failue.
Mercedes designers did a good job of making the S class look like four different cars at the same time -
Mercedes in the front,
1st gen Ford Focus on the sides,
Maybach meets Toyota on the rear.
What happened to unity of design and elegeance?
You can keep the 50's column mounted shifter also.
So enjoy its new size and its visually disjointed bulk.
Im sure that flies and lonely tow trucks will buzz around its quality electronics wherever its parked.
Mercedes designers did a good job of making the S class look like four different cars at the same time -
Mercedes in the front,
1st gen Ford Focus on the sides,
Maybach meets Toyota on the rear.
What happened to unity of design and elegeance?
You can keep the 50's column mounted shifter also.
So enjoy its new size and its visually disjointed bulk.
Im sure that flies and lonely tow trucks will buzz around its quality electronics wherever its parked.
Re: S65 AMG
Sorry, but the new S65 is a design and artistic failue.
Mercedes designers did a good job of making the S class look like four different cars at the same time -
Mercedes in the front,
1st gen Ford Focus on the sides,
Maybach meets Toyota on the rear.
What happened to unity of design and elegeance?
You can keep the 50's column mounted shifter also.
So enjoy its new size and its visually disjointed bulk.
Im sure that flies and lonely tow trucks will buzz around its quality electronics wherever its parked.
Mercedes designers did a good job of making the S class look like four different cars at the same time -
Mercedes in the front,
1st gen Ford Focus on the sides,
Maybach meets Toyota on the rear.
What happened to unity of design and elegeance?
You can keep the 50's column mounted shifter also.
So enjoy its new size and its visually disjointed bulk.
Im sure that flies and lonely tow trucks will buzz around its quality electronics wherever its parked.
Dec 29, 2005 9:11:43 AM
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But given BMW can't seem to even develop competent brakes and has steering feel about as anesthetic as an S/CL's (where's the performance car [Email]touch@BMW??)....and[/Email] BMW can't seem to even develop competent air cond sys or fit its cars w/>22gall fuel tanks (where's the GT car [Email]touch@BMW??)[/Email], I'm not at all surprised BMW has never succeeded in the $100K+ league....
Perhaps this ad will help explain....
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VKSF said:
But given BMW can't seem to even develop competent brakes and has steering feel about as anesthetic as an S/CL's (where's the performance car [Email]touch@BMW??)....and[/Email] BMW can't seem to even develop competent air cond sys or fit its cars w/>22gall fuel tanks (where's the GT car [Email]touch@BMW??)[/Email], I'm not at all surprised BMW has never succeeded in the $100K+ league....
Perhaps this ad will help explain....
Dec 29, 2005 9:26:25 AM
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[Email]LOL@Avantgarde[/Email]
Actually I think Porsche is very realistic and practical!
There is no other car that will get you to her place faster in any weather that is as much fun to drive away in after.
BMW, Mercedes to frumpy. Ferrari and Lamborghini maybe too flashy. Porsche is just right!
Actually I think Porsche is very realistic and practical!
There is no other car that will get you to her place faster in any weather that is as much fun to drive away in after.
BMW, Mercedes to frumpy. Ferrari and Lamborghini maybe too flashy. Porsche is just right!
Dec 29, 2005 9:26:25 AM
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[Email]LOL@Avantgarde[/Email]
Actually I think Porsche is very realistic and practical!
There is no other car that will get you to her place faster in any weather that is as much fun to drive away in after.
BMW, Mercedes to frumpy. Ferrari and Lamborghini maybe too flashy. Porsche is just right!
Actually I think Porsche is very realistic and practical!
There is no other car that will get you to her place faster in any weather that is as much fun to drive away in after.
BMW, Mercedes to frumpy. Ferrari and Lamborghini maybe too flashy. Porsche is just right!
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I dunno for the cost- near 160k or 200k as all of the 65's costed when they first came out--- EHHHH, I would get a Bentley and call it a day, hell, I would get a used rolls royce phantom. I like the 65 Mercedes' alot- but I wouldn't pay over 150k for one. They are VERY fast- but they don't have a better interior than a Bentley or a rolls royce, and they don't look better than the hand made rolls or bentley's. Hell- I would take a 02' Bentley red label that costs 150k opposed to any mercedes. One simply is better- if you want speed and all of that and respect- yes yes, mercedes. IF you want ultimate luxury and presence you go for the bentley or the rolls.
If they market this car close to the 140's... they MIGHT have a better sale- but that wouldn't make it exclusive enough. But I dunno who wants one for the cost- they are piling up at dealerships with only 1k or 3k miles on them and they are now 150k opposed to the near 200k price tag that they were 6 months ago.
If they market this car close to the 140's... they MIGHT have a better sale- but that wouldn't make it exclusive enough. But I dunno who wants one for the cost- they are piling up at dealerships with only 1k or 3k miles on them and they are now 150k opposed to the near 200k price tag that they were 6 months ago.
Re: S65 AMG
I dunno for the cost- near 160k or 200k as all of the 65's costed when they first came out--- EHHHH, I would get a Bentley and call it a day, hell, I would get a used rolls royce phantom. I like the 65 Mercedes' alot- but I wouldn't pay over 150k for one. They are VERY fast- but they don't have a better interior than a Bentley or a rolls royce, and they don't look better than the hand made rolls or bentley's. Hell- I would take a 02' Bentley red label that costs 150k opposed to any mercedes. One simply is better- if you want speed and all of that and respect- yes yes, mercedes. IF you want ultimate luxury and presence you go for the bentley or the rolls.
If they market this car close to the 140's... they MIGHT have a better sale- but that wouldn't make it exclusive enough. But I dunno who wants one for the cost- they are piling up at dealerships with only 1k or 3k miles on them and they are now 150k opposed to the near 200k price tag that they were 6 months ago.
If they market this car close to the 140's... they MIGHT have a better sale- but that wouldn't make it exclusive enough. But I dunno who wants one for the cost- they are piling up at dealerships with only 1k or 3k miles on them and they are now 150k opposed to the near 200k price tag that they were 6 months ago.
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JimFlat6 said:
But given BMW can't seem to even develop competent brakes and has steering feel about as anesthetic as an S/CL's (where's the performance car touch@BMW??)....and BMW can't seem to even develop competent air cond sys or fit its cars w/>22gall fuel tanks (where's the GT car touch@BMW??), I'm not at all surprised BMW has never succeeded in the $100K+ league....
I don't agree with you here. The M5 brakes are much stronger than the one's fitted on 55's, let alone the feel of the brake (sensotronic brake or whatever.)
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JimFlat6 said:
But given BMW can't seem to even develop competent brakes and has steering feel about as anesthetic as an S/CL's (where's the performance car touch@BMW??)....and BMW can't seem to even develop competent air cond sys or fit its cars w/>22gall fuel tanks (where's the GT car touch@BMW??), I'm not at all surprised BMW has never succeeded in the $100K+ league....
I don't agree with you here. The M5 brakes are much stronger than the one's fitted on 55's, let alone the feel of the brake (sensotronic brake or whatever.)
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