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    Dec 27, 2005 6:27:21 PM

    MMD
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    This is how Porsche will outdate our cars.

    Here's all they have to do to make us current owners feel dated. It's the obvious thing to do, extremely easy to spot the "old" cars, looks better (not the trendy Nissan-Z-ish look), good way to hype new car sales when there's a lag.

    BTW, do you see that TRENDY pointy-curve anywhere else on the car? No? Then it's eeeeeasy to get rid of it.

    Just thought I'd place my bet first. (just for fun) Enjoy!



    Dec 27, 2005 6:45:47 PM

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    Re: This is how Porsche will outdate our cars.

    Sorry but I think that the original one is much better.

    Dec 27, 2005 7:00:54 PM

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    Re: This is how Porsche will outdate our cars.

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    Sorry but I think that the original one is much better.



    Me too ,,

    Dear Mr MMD

    There is no vacancy available for you at present here in the design department at Porsche ..

    Yours Sincerely

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    Dec 27, 2005 7:08:14 PM

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    Re: This is how Porsche will outdate our cars.

    Quote:
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    Quote:
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    Sorry but I think that the original one is much better.



    Me too ,,

    Dear Mr MMD

    There is no vacancy available for you at present in the design department here at Porsche ..

    Yours Sincerely

    throt.
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    LOL. Nah, I'm not saying ours looks bad right now I still kinda like it. BUT I'm "predicting" it's gonna be easy to see this pointy thing as "been there done that" in just a few years. All Porsche has to do is change the back bumper (extremely cheap to do) and tail light and it's over, er..., uh..., I mean it's "new".

    Dec 27, 2005 7:11:20 PM

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    Re: This is how Porsche will outdate our cars.

    wouldn't that just make it look .... 996ish?

    Dec 27, 2005 7:13:31 PM

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    Re: This is how Porsche will outdate our cars.

    LOL , I know what you mean M's , its me being a silly boy as usual ..

    throt..

    Dec 27, 2005 7:13:44 PM

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    Re: This is how Porsche will outdate our cars.

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    wouldn't that just make it look .... 996ish?



    That's what I was thinking.

    Dec 27, 2005 7:35:38 PM

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    Think thinner & LED's

    More likely is that with LED's the rear lamp cluster will get thinner (think Z8 tail lights). It might also give Porsche opportunity to "correct" the tail cluster for the "S" models and give them a full width reflector.

    Dec 27, 2005 7:48:50 PM

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    Re: Think thinner & LED's

    .

    Dec 27, 2005 8:25:32 PM

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    Re: Think thinner & LED's *DELETED*

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    Dec 27, 2005 8:49:23 PM

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    Re: Think thinner & LED's

    Quote:
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    More likely is that with LED's the rear lamp cluster will get thinner (think Z8 tail lights). It might also give Porsche opportunity to "correct" the tail cluster for the "S" models and give them a full width reflector.



    Thats just how I "predict" it to be too, this is a photoshop I did 6 months ago of a "998"

    Dec 27, 2005 8:49:28 PM

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    Re: Think thinner & LED's

    Here's the Cayman taillight. Done two (?) years after the 997, gives you a clue of what they might to. Not trying to create a stir, but I can almost see how this makes the 997 look dated.

    Dec 27, 2005 8:53:29 PM

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    Re: Think thinner & LED's

    Quote:
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    Quote:
    Le Chef said:
    More likely is that with LED's the rear lamp cluster will get thinner (think Z8 tail lights). It might also give Porsche opportunity to "correct" the tail cluster for the "S" models and give them a full width reflector.



    Thats just how I "predict" it to be too, this is a photoshop I did 6 months ago of a "998"



    Oh yes Carlos ,, thats the one I want Mr Porsche..

    throt..

    Dec 27, 2005 8:57:13 PM

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    Re: Think thinner & LED's

    A bit heigher Carlos if you would , = 10mm more ..

    throt..

    Dec 27, 2005 9:05:01 PM

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    Re: Think thinner & LED's

    Quote:
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    Quote:
    Le Chef said:
    More likely is that with LED's the rear lamp cluster will get thinner (think Z8 tail lights). It might also give Porsche opportunity to "correct" the tail cluster for the "S" models and give them a full width reflector.



    Thats just how I "predict" it to be too, this is a photoshop I did 6 months ago of a "998"



    Niiiice, looooove the full-width idea.

    Dec 27, 2005 9:09:07 PM

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    Re: Think thinner & LED's

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    Here's the Cayman taillight. Done two (?) years after the 997, gives you a clue of what they might to. Not trying to create a stir, but I can almost see how this makes the 997 look dated.

    Most of all... this is the Boxster tail light. Cayman's and Boxster's taillights are exactly the same.

    To me the Boxster taillights look way better than the 997 taillights. But that's just personal preference.

    Dec 27, 2005 9:24:40 PM

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    Re: Think thinner & LED's

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    Thats just how I "predict" it to be too, this is a photoshop I did 6 months ago of a "998"



    You're a "phosho-master" Carlos.

    However, don't know what it is, but it looks kind of heavy to me.

    Dec 27, 2005 9:37:32 PM

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    Re: Think thinner & LED's

    it's the back end. the bumper is widened (top to bottom) giving it a bigger-ass look. But, could be a sign of a larger engine (more power). Then again ... w/ that comes balance issues.

    my head hurts.

    Dec 27, 2005 9:37:47 PM

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    Re: Think thinner & LED's

    i love the idea of all LED's on the 911. great photoshop job carlo!

    Does any one know if the Turbo will get them in the back (since the front turn signals are receiving them)?

    btw, the Audi A8 has LED headlights i believe.

    Dec 27, 2005 11:06:13 PM

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    Re: Think thinner & LED's

    I think Carlos is right, the next step will be the rear light design seen on this photoshop job. Car manufacturers can afford to make the lights smaller due to new LED technology. I doubt that the rear bumper will look this way (too "bulky") but I think the rear lights are a pretty good shot.

    Dec 27, 2005 11:07:54 PM

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    Re: Think thinner & LED's

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    I think Carlos is right, the next step will be the rear light design seen on this photoshop job. Car manufacturers can afford to make the lights smaller due to new LED technology. I doubt that the rear bumper will look this way (too "bulky") but I think the rear lights are a pretty good shot.



    The rear is rude imo..

    throt..

    Dec 27, 2005 11:23:03 PM

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    Re: This is how Porsche will outdate our cars.

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    MMD said:
    Here's all they have to do to make us current owners feel dated. It's the obvious thing to do, extremely easy to spot the "old" cars, looks better (not the trendy Nissan-Z-ish look), good way to hype new car sales when there's a lag.

    BTW, do you see that TRENDY pointy-curve anywhere else on the car? No? Then it's eeeeeasy to get rid of it.

    Just thought I'd place my bet first. (just for fun) Enjoy!







    MMD,

    Looks like Porsche is adopting the design philosophy of General Motors that was developed by Alfred P. Sloan, namely making small changes to the basic car each year just so that the latest model can be distinguished from the earlier ones of the same basic design. It's a way of getting consumers to believe that somehow the newer model is better than the previous one and getting them to "trade up" to a newer model sooner. It will be interesting to see if this spurs sales of new cars and leads to an increased supply of used ones (and lower prices of used one).

    Jim

    Dec 28, 2005 12:46:25 AM

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    Re: Think thinner & LED's *DELETED*

    I think MMD has way too much time on his hands.

    Dec 28, 2005 12:49:34 AM

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    Re: Think thinner & LED's

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    i love the idea of all LED's on the 911. great photoshop job carlo!

    Does any one know if the Turbo will get them in the back (since the front turn signals are receiving them)?

    btw, the Audi A8 has LED headlights i believe.



    I'm afraid LED rearlights are due for the facelift...maybe. The A8 has LED headlights? I doubt it. Maybe you're referring to the "daylight" lights?

    Dec 28, 2005 1:54:43 AM

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    Re: Think thinner & LED's

    Nice car Carlos.

    Dec 28, 2005 2:26:46 AM

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    Re: Think thinner & LED's

    Nice photoshop Carlos , perhaps someone could fabricate that lower valence to retrofit on our exisiting 997 bumpers .....it looks cool.
    Really love the LED tail lamps too.

    Dec 28, 2005 3:39:34 AM

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    Re: Think thinner & LED's *DELETED*

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    I think MMD has way too much time on his hands.




    LOL. No, I cancel appts and I'm chronically late for meetings so I can assist guys here with their/our hobby issues.

    BTW, some guys here (not I) are at the professional level; aren't you glad they tolerate us?!

    Dec 28, 2005 4:41:01 AM

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    Re: Think thinner & LED's *DELETED*

    Cancel your next appointment MMD, the 997 taillights are one of my favorite parts of the car!

    Design-wise, to me they convey 'teutonic', precision, tension. Ask Nberry , Ya gotta have a mix of curves and angles for it to work, look at Ferrari -- lots of sharp acute angles (C-pillar, A-pillar, front brake vents,engine vents, ex
    haust cutout) nicely set off by traditional round tail lamps, fender line, venturi...



    In my opinion 997 lights crisper than 996's organic 'rising dough form' found throughout the interior and 996 pre-facelift egg over-easy headlight.

    997 tails come straight from "trendy" CGT-- give me MORE of the same, I say....


    unless maybe 997 guru Harm Lagaay vacationed in Sydney, Australia

    Dec 28, 2005 5:19:43 AM

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    Re: Think thinner & LED's *DELETED*

    Damian,

    I second that!


    Dec 28, 2005 5:58:37 AM

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    Re: Think thinner & LED's

    Quote:
    Carlos from Spain said:
    Quote:
    Le Chef said:
    More likely is that with LED's the rear lamp cluster will get thinner (think Z8 tail lights). It might also give Porsche opportunity to "correct" the tail cluster for the "S" models and give them a full width reflector.



    Thats just how I "predict" it to be too, this is a photoshop I did 6 months ago of a "998"



    I love it! Well done Carlos
     
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