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Dec 20, 2005 2:27:39 PM
- 69bossnine
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Re: Paddle shift on 997TT
WORLD EXCLUSIVE!
"Paddle shifting" will be introduced in two years on the upcoming 993 model.
Prospective customers fortunate enough to own a color monitor and a 14400 bauds modem might even download actual pictures of the new Tiptronic S gearbox off the manufacturer's BBS.
"Paddle shifting" will be introduced in two years on the upcoming 993 model.
Prospective customers fortunate enough to own a color monitor and a 14400 bauds modem might even download actual pictures of the new Tiptronic S gearbox off the manufacturer's BBS.
Re: Paddle shift on 997TT
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WORLD EXCLUSIVE!
"Paddle shifting" will be introduced in two years on the upcoming 993 model.
Prospective customers fortunate enough to own a color monitor and a 14400 bauds modem might even download actual pictures of the new Tiptronic S gearbox off the manufacturer's BBS.
I had to read that about 3 times until I realized you were being sarcastic!
Re: Paddle shift on 997TT
Technically, the 993 with the Tiptronic S gearbox was the first car with paddle shifters (or rather shifters on the steering wheel)... 
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To answer Ocean's question, the Porsche Double Clutch gearbox, similar to VW's DSG (which is why you'll see it mentioned as "PDK" or "DSG"), is to be introduced in two years. I.e. it won't make the 997 Turbo launch.
I'd take a great PDK in two years over a disappointing one in 6 months any day...
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To answer Ocean's question, the Porsche Double Clutch gearbox, similar to VW's DSG (which is why you'll see it mentioned as "PDK" or "DSG"), is to be introduced in two years. I.e. it won't make the 997 Turbo launch.
I'd take a great PDK in two years over a disappointing one in 6 months any day...
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Any know why Porsche has not offered the paddle shift in cars like the turbo ? Would anyone like to see it as an option , seems to have really caught on with Ferrari buyers as more people order the F1 option over standard shift with the 430 .
I am not a fan of paddle shift. Maybe when I get older and can't use a "true" clutch I will go with the paddle shift. But until then manual transmission is the only way to go!
Dec 20, 2005 10:09:29 PM
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For the life of me I don't understand why anyone would want an F1 Ferrari.
So they can pretend they're Michael Schumacher....
I'm with you, the idea of being "involved" with the car contradicts the idea of letting mechanicals and some software do your shifting.
Old-school, maybe. But sometimes doing things yourself is more satisfying than not. Everybody has their opinion on the matter.
My gut tells me that people are more excited about the golly-gee-whiz aspect of having the latest "thing" at their fingertips, than they really are about retiring their left leg to an atrophic state.
But, it's more options for the public, which is a good thing.
Dec 21, 2005 12:55:17 AM
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Any know why Porsche has not offered the paddle shift in cars like the turbo ? Would anyone like to see it as an option , seems to have really caught on with Ferrari buyers as more people order the F1 option over standard shift with the 430 .
Have you noticed that since last week that we saw slew of almost undisguised 997TT none of them showed the inside of the car
.Not that this would be an indication that Porsche is keeping the PDK a secret until Press release is out but you never know.
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Quote:drive an f1 430 and you will understand
or the life of me I don't understand why anyone would want an F1 Ferrari.
I drove an F1 360 and I don't understand. Even with the improved gearbox everyone is raving about in the 430, I just don't like the feel of the car doing the work for me. The F1 is a great marketing tool, though, and one can easily be duped into thinking it's the best thing by mass crows opinion.
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P997C2S said:
For the life of me I don't understand why anyone would want an F1 Ferrari.
I'm with you, but 90% of Ferrari owners are against us
and 91% of Maserati owners too ;-)
>> I was looking at buying a Maserati Grendsport
You couldn't have been looking too hard at it as you can't even type it!
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P997C2S said:
For the life of me I don't understand why anyone would want an F1 Ferrari.
I'm with you, but 90% of Ferrari owners are against us
and 91% of Maserati owners too ;-)
>> I was looking at buying a Maserati Grendsport
You couldn't have been looking too hard at it as you can't even type it!
This is funnnnnny. Sorry I mean funny.
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Even with the improved gearbox everyone is raving about in the 430, I just don't like the feel of the car doing the work for me.
That's my feeling. I don't need no stinkin' computer controlled electric/hydraulically controlled servos shifting my gear box.
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Crash said:
Even with the improved gearbox everyone is raving about in the 430, I just don't like the feel of the car doing the work for me.
That's my feeling. I don't need no stinkin' computer controlled electric/hydraulically controlled servos shifting my gear box.
Dec 21, 2005 5:07:55 PM
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Dec 21, 2005 5:12:37 PM
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Dec 21, 2005 6:08:57 PM
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I've never had a problem with one hand on the wheel, the other shifting, driving like a maniac or otherwise. I've tried it, I have no affinity for it.
I used to say the same thing... i also blaming when abs was out... i could brake the car with no diffuclties without abs system... unfortunately now i have changed my mind..
I didn't realize driving fast was so difficult, you needed a nanny-tranny to accomplish it.
Dec 21, 2005 7:15:50 PM
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I've never had a problem with one hand on the wheel, the other shifting, driving like a maniac or otherwise. I've tried it, I have no affinity for it.
I didn't realize driving fast was so difficult, you needed a nanny-tranny to accomplish it.
What he said.
Dec 21, 2005 8:09:44 PM
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I've never had a problem with one hand on the wheel, the other shifting, driving like a maniac or otherwise. I've tried it, I have no affinity for it.
I didn't realize driving fast was so difficult, you needed a nanny-tranny to accomplish it.
On the other hand, in some model Porsches over the years, if one has long legs (I have a 36" inseam), it is damn near impossible to heel-toe with the the center console digging into my shin.
If the only choice were to break and reset my ankle so that I could heel-toe
or take the nanny tranny option I would enthusiastically go for even a Tiptronic. PDK/DSG would be sweet for tall guys that don't have the console delete possibilty.
My CGT is the first Porsche built since the '70s that I can heel-toe in comfortably. My old '74 911RS/IROC and 914-6 were good, too.
Dec 21, 2005 9:42:07 PM
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69bossnine said:
I've never had a problem with one hand on the wheel, the other shifting, driving like a maniac or otherwise. I've tried it, I have no affinity for it.
I didn't realize driving fast was so difficult, you needed a nanny-tranny to accomplish it.
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69bossnine said:
I've never had a problem with one hand on the wheel, the other shifting, driving like a maniac or otherwise. I've tried it, I have no affinity for it.
I didn't realize driving fast was so difficult, you needed a nanny-tranny to accomplish it.
same could be said of power steering, ABS, PSM, PASM, or basically any bit of modern car technology (incl. power seats/windows). fact is - if it'll shave 0.3secs off 0-60 (all the way thru 180+mph), am afraid these transmissions are the way of the future.
& btw, i too very much enjoy manuals.
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