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    Argh....What is PSE??????????????????

    I've looked everywhere.
    Is PSE Porsche Sports Exhaust???

    Re: Argh....What is PSE??????????????????

    Yes. PSE = Porsche Sports Exhaust.

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    nattybumpo said:
    I've looked everywhere.
    Is PSE Porsche Sports Exhaust???



    I feel your pain

    Re: Argh....What is PSE??????????????????

    Or is it:

    PSE = Porsche Sound Excitement?


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    Or:

    PSE = Pretty Sick Exhaust


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    Or: Profoundly Stupendous Exhaust!

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    Pretty Sweet Exhaust

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    A regular bunch of Rodney Dangerfields!!!
    My understanding that the only thing that PSE gives you is the chrome plating? Is there anything else that's juicy about it?

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    And I can't find the MSRP for PSE on the Porsche site, would some kind soul let me know how much it is in the US?
    Thanks

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    PSE actually gives you a more aggressive/throaty exhaust note (I think it is louder too?) over a certain rpm (3k?) but it can be configured so it is on full time - the sport (chrome) tip is different and yes, it is the same exhaust but just chrome finished. Hope that helps

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    nattybumpo said:
    And I can't find the MSRP for PSE on the Porsche site, would some kind soul let me know how much it is in the US?
    Thanks


    When I spec'd my '06 it was a $2400 option

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    nattybumpo said:
    A regular bunch of Rodney Dangerfields!!!
    My understanding that the only thing that PSE gives you is the chrome plating? Is there anything else that's juicy about it?



    Read this:
    Sports exhaust system

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    You know how sometimes you see some old Dodge Neon with big garish exhaust pipes that sound like a big mess of pots and pans...... I've always thought that's ostentatious. Aren't we talking about the same thing with PSE....you know: Big Hat, No Cattle.....?

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    I had a 997S pass in front of me last night while I was walking to my car, it had the PSE. Boy did it sound alot different than my C2. Had a distinct rumble when he rolled by me (we were in a mall parking lot), and then he got on it a bit as he turned onto the main street

    Beautiful sound, but not too loud. No sign of anything 'ricey' either.

    That little encounter I had last night pretty much sealed my decision to add PSE as soon as I can afford to buy it.

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    Is PSE essential on a P car? I had a C2 with no PSE and I thought it sounded lovely at any rev.

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    Turbo 911 said:
    Is PSE essential on a P car? I had a C2 with no PSE and I thought it sounded lovely at any rev.



    well, pretty much everyone here who either:
    a) has pse on their car or
    b) ridden in/seen a car that does
    and they all love it

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    Do I have to have PSE? Well........


    ......... YES!!!


    Lol, of course not. But I've loved cars all my life, specifically racing cars. Being a former shift karter, hearing that throaty exhaust just pulls at my heartsrings. So for me, PSE is a must. Cost was the only reason I don't have it on my car already.

    That said, my 997C2's stock exhaust does sound wonderful. But as with most of the P-car option list, I wish PSE with on/off button was a standard item

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    Turbo 911 said:
    Is PSE essential on a P car?



    Not at all!!... so long as you don't hear one ... if you do make the mistake of hearing the sound the PSE makes as it revs, then, then it becomes essential

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    Turbo 911 said:
    Is PSE essential on a P car?



    yes, yes it is.

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    For the guys in South Orange Counter Hergschimer in lake Forest will take your stock mufflers off the car and re-work them for a reasonable price and the car sounds deeper and sportier. Keep in mind Porsche has no claim for the PSE performance, it's just sound and nothing else.

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    edz61 said:
    For the guys in South Orange Counter Hergschimer in lake Forest will take your stock mufflers off the car and re-work them for a reasonable price and the car sounds deeper and sportier. Keep in mind Porsche has no claim for the PSE performance, it's just sound and nothing else.




    Oh? Did they happen to mention how much this little procedure would cost?

    Me curious

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    Carlos from Spain said:
    Quote:
    Turbo 911 said:
    Is PSE essential on a P car?



    Not at all!!... so long as you don't hear one ... if you do make the mistake of hearing the sound the PSE makes as it revs, then, then it becomes essential



    I don't think I have ever heard a PSE equipped Porsche in my area. Also I find that most of the Porsches in the UK have no PSE (according to Porsche Approved Used). I admit the C2 stock exhaust is nice but how does PSE compare? Is it more GT3 like? Is is louder? More bass-ish? More rumble? etc. Will it get annoying after a while at motorway speeds?

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    That's what's nice about PSE with on/off button. You have a choice of when you want to hear it.

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    Turbo 911 said:
    I don't think I have ever heard a PSE equipped Porsche in my area. Also I find that most of the Porsches in the UK have no PSE (according to Porsche Approved Used). I admit the C2 stock exhaust is nice but how does PSE compare? Is it more GT3 like? Is is louder? More bass-ish? More rumble? etc. Will it get annoying after a while at motorway speeds?



    This is still with the cut off activated between 45-80km/h with is were the PSE really growls but you can get an idea

    Use right-click and "save as...":

    997S Porsche Sport Exhaust

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    edz61 said:
    For the guys in South Orange Counter Hergschimer in lake Forest will take your stock mufflers off the car and re-work them for a reasonable price and the car sounds deeper and sportier. Keep in mind Porsche has no claim for the PSE performance, it's just sound and nothing else.



    The Porsche PSE is the Stradivarius of the exhausts for the 911's N/A Flat-6... you can try to imitate it, but its not the same. Changing the exhust sound of the stock exhaust is easy derestricting it making it deeper and louder, but I haven't heard any exhaust that sounds like the PSE on the 996 or on the 997 yet.

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    Carlos from Spain said:
    Quote:
    Turbo 911 said:
    I don't think I have ever heard a PSE equipped Porsche in my area. Also I find that most of the Porsches in the UK have no PSE (according to Porsche Approved Used). I admit the C2 stock exhaust is nice but how does PSE compare? Is it more GT3 like? Is is louder? More bass-ish? More rumble? etc. Will it get annoying after a while at motorway speeds?



    This is still with the cut off activated between 45-80km/h with is were the PSE really growls but you can get an idea

    Use right-click and "save as...":

    997S Porsche Sport Exhaust



    Great sound clips!!! And so thorough in recording various scenarios! Thanks

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    nattybumpo said:
    You know how sometimes you see some old Dodge Neon with big garish exhaust pipes that sound like a big mess of pots and pans...... I've always thought that's ostentatious. Aren't we talking about the same thing with PSE....you know: Big Hat, No Cattle.....?



    Let's see--fart can on a Neon vs. 997 with PSE? Definitely not the same thing. I would argue the PSE should be standard--Porsches have been way too quiet in stock form since the 996. I understand European noise level controls and all, but the PSE is compliant, so by definition the stock set up is more quiet than it needs to be.

    And PSE is no fart can muffler--I don't like those either. PSE is "pretty sweet exhaust", I agree.

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    Thanks for link Carlos!

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    Carlos, many thanks for the soundfile.
    Now I know how my car sounds from the outside
    brgds, Tom

    Re: Argh....What is PSE??????????????????

    My pleasure guys, you are welcome

    I'm trying to make a video which will capture the sound better and without the cut-off, but I can't find the time yet...

     
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