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Re: Cayman RS - It's real?
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"---- the Cayman S's flat six is far more elastic than its cousins (3.6- and 3.8- liter 997s and 3.2- liter Boxter S) as if this is the exact dispacement, bore, and stroke it was really ment to have. ---- (also) there is more than a little extra power waiting to be unlocked from this latest 3.4- liter flat six."
... if so ... how come the numbers don't prove that ... i admit that the Cayman creates this subjective feeling ... but when it comes down to acceleration figures ... on paper it is not significantly faster than a Boxster S ... and when you look at the slalom results of the AMS-test it is indeed slower ... so where do you get your confidence from ... ?
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Tom
Re: Cayman RS - It's real?
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Rookie said:
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"---- the Cayman S's flat six is far more elastic than its cousins (3.6- and 3.8- liter 997s and 3.2- liter Boxter S) as if this is the exact dispacement, bore, and stroke it was really ment to have. ---- (also) there is more than a little extra power waiting to be unlocked from this latest 3.4- liter flat six."
... if so ... how come the numbers don't prove that ... i admit that the Cayman creates this subjective feeling ... but when it comes down to acceleration figures ... on paper it is not significantly faster than a Boxster S ... and when you look at the slalom results of the AMS-test it is indeed slower ... so where do you get your confidence from ... ?
Greets
Tom
hi Tom
In the first part of my quote, I said: "I would like to throw into the discussion some comments from Excellence magazine about the Cayman." Your quote of me is exactly that. A quote from Excellence magazine.
I wish I could speak from first hand experience, and I will when I receive the January build Cayman I ordered. But until then I can only quote from sources I trust. There are currently no Caymans in the USA that I have access to drive.
Until then.
Re: Cayman RS - It's real?
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Thomas P said:
If there will be a Box/Cayman RS or not is probably only a marketing issue, nothing else.It would probably be much quicker and cheaper than the 997 so it could harm volumes and hence profits.
I would expect that any Cayman RS/CS will be stripped out and have track biased suspension. As most customers want a good sports car for the road with the attendant comfort and luxury, it would not steal many sales from the 997 despite being potentially faster and cheaper.
Re: Cayman RS - It's real?
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Thomas P said:
If there will be a Box/Cayman RS or not is probably only a marketing issue, nothing else.It would probably be much quicker and cheaper than the 997 so it could harm volumes and hence profits.
I would expect that any Cayman RS/CS will be stripped out and have track biased suspension. As most customers want a good sports car for the road with the attendant comfort and luxury, it would not steal many sales from the 997 despite being potentially faster and cheaper.
And don't forget about Porsche's opportunity to price any potential Cayman RS/CS at a substantial premium. My guess is that it could be priced modestly lower than the upcoming 997 GT3 and still find buyers for a limited production run.
Re: Cayman RS - It's real?
A Cayman RS that could only be used with street tires would be a absolute joke and a slutty whore job for "RS" nomenclature. Even Porsche wouldnt do that. RS actually means more than just two decal letters.
The Cayman engine doesnt have a dry sump oil system like a GT3 does and cant use race tires period. And Porsche wont waste their time devloping and building a Cayman RS to compete with the GT3 that already benefits from track development and has limited customer volumes.
You think Porsche is simple minded? Think they will duplicate Porsche Motorsports budget, staffing and R/D time to develope a Cayman RS useable for road and track to get zero real gain for their time and money?
You arent going to get a GT3 car or even a faux imitation one with RS decals on it for less than a real GT3, so get over that fantasy.
A Cayman RS has as much chance of becoming real as seeing a Cayenne pick up truck run in the NASCAR truck series.
The Cayman engine doesnt have a dry sump oil system like a GT3 does and cant use race tires period. And Porsche wont waste their time devloping and building a Cayman RS to compete with the GT3 that already benefits from track development and has limited customer volumes.
You think Porsche is simple minded? Think they will duplicate Porsche Motorsports budget, staffing and R/D time to develope a Cayman RS useable for road and track to get zero real gain for their time and money?
You arent going to get a GT3 car or even a faux imitation one with RS decals on it for less than a real GT3, so get over that fantasy.
A Cayman RS has as much chance of becoming real as seeing a Cayenne pick up truck run in the NASCAR truck series.
Re: Cayman RS - It's real?
Jim
A cayman S Clubsport wouldn t that be nice.
The midengine design is perfect for track and is a dream in handling and agility.
For me the perfect Cayman s Clubsport would be something like this.
Under 1300kg.
320hp or 340hp even better.
Porsche GT3 race seats.
Porsche sports suspension
And a Limited Slip diff.
Normal road tires is good enough so dry sump is no need for.
Get some luxery stuff out and try to make it little cheaper for track enthousiasts.
A cayman S Clubsport wouldn t that be nice.
The midengine design is perfect for track and is a dream in handling and agility.
For me the perfect Cayman s Clubsport would be something like this.
Under 1300kg.
320hp or 340hp even better.
Porsche GT3 race seats.
Porsche sports suspension
And a Limited Slip diff.
Normal road tires is good enough so dry sump is no need for.
Get some luxery stuff out and try to make it little cheaper for track enthousiasts.
Re: Cayman RS - It's real?
Advevo, Every other Clubsport model Porsche has not been restricted to street tires for a good reason, Porsche prefers building winners not "lookers."
They already building 6 different versions of the M97 engine (Boxster, Boxster S, Cayman S, 997, 997S, and 997S with the X51 power kit.)
I dont think they are crazy enough to offer a 7th version for a faster version of the Cayman S, but you never know.
Maybe they dream of dealing with more development, manufacturing, spare parts logistics and dealer training for only a few more customers.
If you want a Porsche for serious street and track use you can get a already proven winner, the GT3. Dont hold your breath waiting for a lower priced GT3 based on a lightweight 987.
They already building 6 different versions of the M97 engine (Boxster, Boxster S, Cayman S, 997, 997S, and 997S with the X51 power kit.)
I dont think they are crazy enough to offer a 7th version for a faster version of the Cayman S, but you never know.
Maybe they dream of dealing with more development, manufacturing, spare parts logistics and dealer training for only a few more customers.
If you want a Porsche for serious street and track use you can get a already proven winner, the GT3. Dont hold your breath waiting for a lower priced GT3 based on a lightweight 987.
Re: Cayman RS - It's real?
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JimFlat6 said:
A Cayman RS has as much chance of becoming real as seeing a Cayenne pick up truck run in the NASCAR truck series./quote]
Ha, that's a good one! Wait, there is a Cayenne pick up truck in Porsche's future product plans? You know that's how rumors get started. :-)
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