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Re: The lustful hips of the 997S
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vtach88 said:
Nah... the 997 wins... Butts are supposed to be rounded.... that's what makes them (and other "lady lumps") so attractive....
Yeah, I guess; P's rear is definitely a benchmark.
Maybe I'm too used to mine. When you see the TR rear in person it's really impressive (photos don't show it well). 
Re: The lustful hips of the 997S
Guys TR's are old news and kind of ugly in person. The 512 looks better than the old TR. But they are all out dated looking. I do admit 512TR does sound gr8 and it's a fast car while the old TR while fast for the era, now days can be beaten by most anything out there.
Oct 29, 2005 1:01:36 PM
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Oct 29, 2005 2:00:45 PM
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Re: The lustful hips of the 997S
lol you guys are awesome. I thought I was the only one who's crazy about the "hips" and "ass" of the 911.
as for the TR, it's been my dream car since it's introduction. Recently I saw it at a few meets here too. However, as time would do to many vehicles, I think it's dated and have switched my dream car to the carrera GT since then.
as for the TR, it's been my dream car since it's introduction. Recently I saw it at a few meets here too. However, as time would do to many vehicles, I think it's dated and have switched my dream car to the carrera GT since then.
Oct 29, 2005 3:47:46 PM
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Re: The lustful hips of the 997S
Yesterday as I was stopping behind a Porsche it took me awahile to determine whether it was a 996 or 997. Only when I was close enough to read it was a S with the phony dual exhaust I determined it was a 997.
More importantly, we both were on the on ramp to enter I-5 a major highway. Knowing he would accelerate on to the highway, I turned down my radio and lower my window to hear the exhaust as he accelerated. What a disappointment! I hardly heard anything! My Mini has more of a performance exhaust sound.
More importantly, we both were on the on ramp to enter I-5 a major highway. Knowing he would accelerate on to the highway, I turned down my radio and lower my window to hear the exhaust as he accelerated. What a disappointment! I hardly heard anything! My Mini has more of a performance exhaust sound.
Re: The lustful hips of the 997S
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edz61 said:
Guys TR's are old news and kind of ugly in person. The 512 looks better than the old TR. But they are all out dated looking. I do admit 512TR does sound gr8 and it's a fast car while the old TR while fast for the era, now days can be beaten by most anything out there.
OK OK OK!!
I'm wrong (again)!! Y'all are right. 
It's gotta be the anthropomorphic qualities that you guys are grabbing onto. I like the 512TR because it is so outrageous: wide and low and in-your-face. Outrageous but not assinine; sophisticated overstated but not comic-book. To me it's impossible to have a dated look with Ferrari. They are truely timeless designs. 
Re: The lustful hips of the 997S
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nberry said:
I turned down my radio and lower my window to hear the exhaust as he accelerated. What a disappointment! I hardly heard anything! My Mini has more of a performance exhaust sound.
They can make them sound anyway they want. So how do you get your sound out of your car? Sound has nothing to do with intrinsic properties of the rest of the car; it's arbitrary, "phoney" on ALL cars. So why make a big deal about it? It indicates what exactly? It indicates what the marketing types told the engineers to do. So what's your point? The sound is further evidence to prove Porsche is a POS? Perhaps you are merely saying Porsche sound-engineering doesn't suit your taste as much as the Mini does?
Re: The lustful hips of the 997S
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nberry said:
I turned down my radio and lower my window to hear the exhaust as he accelerated. What a disappointment! I hardly heard anything! My Mini has more of a performance exhaust sound.
They can make them sound anyway they want. So how do you get your sound out of your car? Sound has nothing to do with intrinsic properties of the rest of the car; it's arbitrary, "phoney" on ALL cars. So why make a big deal about it? It indicates what exactly? It indicates what the marketing types told the engineers to do. So what's your point? The sound is further evidence to prove Porsche is a POS? Perhaps you are merely saying Porsche sound-engineering doesn't suit your taste as much as the Mini does?
If you own a Ferrari and ask me what is my point regarding the lack of performance sound then anything I write will go above your head. However here is a hint.
A critical part of the driving experience is listening. Why do you think Porsche offers a PSE option?
If my eyes were closed and I heard the exhaust of the 997 I would bet it was a VW. 
Re: The lustful hips of the 997S
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nberry said:
Yesterday as I was stopping behind a Porsche it took me awahile to determine whether it was a 996 or 997. Only when I was close enough to read it was a S with the phony dual exhaust I determined it was a 997.
More importantly, we both were on the on ramp to enter I-5 a major highway. Knowing he would accelerate on to the highway, I turned down my radio and lower my window to hear the exhaust as he accelerated. What a disappointment! I hardly heard anything! My Mini has more of a performance exhaust sound.
Well Nick, if there is anyone out here in rennteamland who really thinks that your Mini really has more performance than the 997S, then at least THEY will think that they have understood the point of your post.
The rest of us will be left wondering what your point was, if we bother to think about it at all.
Oct 29, 2005 11:48:27 PM
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Re: The lustful hips of the 997S
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nberry said:
A critical part of the driving experience is listening. Why do you think Porsche offers a PSE option?
When he closes his eyes and listens to his stereo, Nick also gets Beethoven and Jessica Simpson mixed up.
Re: The lustful hips of the 997S
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A critical part of the driving experience is listening. Why do you think Porsche offers a PSE option?
So you're saying the engineered sound of Ferrari sounds better than the engineered sound of Porsche? Both of which are highly engineered to different cosmetic sound styles? If so I guess it's a matter of different taste in deciding the sound of engines, like there's different taste in music?
Not trying to be obnoxious, I just think it's gotten absurd. My POV is if the sound can be anything, why not digitalize it and produce it inside the cabin and have a selection of different sounds (in synch with what the engine is actually doing) of the engine-style you want to hear?
My own selfish desire is that the engine make as little sound as possible because when I'm passing another car I don't want to pi**them off and have them call the cops on me for sounding like I'm doing 150mph insted of 90.
Re: The lustful hips of the 997S
I don't know how this "hip" discussion becomes a P vs. F OK Corral.
Nevertheless, since we are "in" one already
, shouldn't the bottom line be the performance around the track, not sound of the exhaust?
I would be interested to find out what the 'ring times are say, for Ferrari Spyder vs Porsche 997 TT.
P.S. Personally I think Ferrari's ARE beautiful. Top notched Italian designers, cost no object, how could they not be?
Nevertheless, since we are "in" one already
, shouldn't the bottom line be the performance around the track, not sound of the exhaust?I would be interested to find out what the 'ring times are say, for Ferrari Spyder vs Porsche 997 TT.
P.S. Personally I think Ferrari's ARE beautiful. Top notched Italian designers, cost no object, how could they not be?
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nberry said:
A critical part of the driving experience is listening. Why do you think Porsche offers a PSE option?
So you're saying the engineered sound of Ferrari sounds better than the engineered sound of Porsche? Both of which are highly engineered to different cosmetic sound styles? If so I guess it's a matter of different taste in deciding the sound of engines, like there's different taste in music?
Not trying to be obnoxious, I just think it's gotten absurd. My POV is if the sound can be anything, why not digitalize it and produce it inside the cabin and have a selection of different sounds (in synch with what the engine is actually doing) of the engine-style you want to hear?
My own selfish desire is that the engine make as little sound as possible because when I'm passing another car I don't want to pi**them off and have them call the cops on me for sounding like I'm doing 150mph insted of 90.
Oct 31, 2005 1:27:45 AM
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Re: The lustful hips of the 997S
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cannga said:
I don't know how this "hip" discussion becomes a P vs. F OK Corral.
I do - and its the same reason every time. Someone seems to have little better to do than surf Porsche forums and trash Porsche with posts that have little or nothing to do with the thread and have little to nothing informative or constructive to offer - like a little child - and it's reached the point where most users just ignore the posts because they are a meaningless and monotonous diatribe that no longer carry any weight. But not this time . . . somebody bit.
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