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Oct 13, 2005 7:35:22 AM
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Oct 13, 2005 8:57:00 AM
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Oct 13, 2005 10:21:21 AM
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temm said:
Xlnt!That saved me a few quid
Now, now... the idea is you see the quality of the journalism from this snippet and go out and by the magazine - don't want teh copywrite police on my back!!
Ehhh....ummmm....yeah, well what I meant was that after reading this informative article I will rather buy a 911 than a Vantage, and thus saving about Pounds15 000
Oct 13, 2005 10:39:31 AM
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Thanks for the scan.
The truth is: you just need a Cayman S to beat the vantage at the Nordschleife. (Cayman S 8.11m, Vantage 8.13m)both on normal street tires. In Hockenheim it's not close. The Vantage on PZero Corsa can't beat the 997S on normal tires.(997S 1.14.3m Vantage 1.14,8m) The Vantage on street tires is slower than a BMW M5 (Vantage 1.16.7m M5 1.16.5m)
I really like this Aston Martin, but i thougt it would be better on the track.
Blueflame
The truth is: you just need a Cayman S to beat the vantage at the Nordschleife. (Cayman S 8.11m, Vantage 8.13m)both on normal street tires. In Hockenheim it's not close. The Vantage on PZero Corsa can't beat the 997S on normal tires.(997S 1.14.3m Vantage 1.14,8m) The Vantage on street tires is slower than a BMW M5 (Vantage 1.16.7m M5 1.16.5m)
I really like this Aston Martin, but i thougt it would be better on the track.
Blueflame
Re: Here you go....
.....what will happen if you put those tires on the Porsche??? Aston is bragging but they arent even takin into account that the Vantage needed special tyres to beat the Carrera S?
If you put tires on the P that could potentially improve its laptime by 10sec it would probably beat a Stradale
If you put tires on the P that could potentially improve its laptime by 10sec it would probably beat a Stradale
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.....what will happen if you put those tires on the Porsche??? Aston is bragging but they arent even takin into account that the Vantage needed special tyres to beat the Carrera S?
If you put tires on the P that could potentially improve its laptime by 10sec it would probably beat a Stradale
it said aston will offer those tires as an option, so I wouldn't say it needs "special" tires to beat the 997. For that matter, you could say that the 997 needs "special" brakes (PCCM) to achieve the time that it did. So what would happen if you put carbon ceramic brakes on the aston?
Oct 13, 2005 2:16:07 PM
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Oct 13, 2005 3:13:38 PM
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Re: Here you go....
Quote:The Aston is $110k and a 997 is $70k. Why not compare the Aston to a $110k Porsche.
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.....what will happen if you put those tires on the Porsche??? Aston is bragging but they arent even takin into account that the Vantage needed special tyres to beat the Carrera S?
If you put tires on the P that could potentially improve its laptime by 10sec it would probably beat a Stradale
it said aston will offer those tires as an option, so I wouldn't say it needs "special" tires to beat the 997. For that matter, you could say that the 997 needs "special" brakes (PCCM) to achieve the time that it did. So what would happen if you put carbon ceramic brakes on the aston?
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Other than financial consideration, how anyone could choose the 997S over the AMV8 is mind-boggling. Performance, beauty, sound, lush interior and exclusivity is hands down in favor of the AM.
My god; the 997 is an old shoe. Porsche replaces the sole, laces, heal and numeric designation and sell it as a totally new car. Wake up!
My god; the 997 is an old shoe. Porsche replaces the sole, laces, heal and numeric designation and sell it as a totally new car. Wake up!
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Other than financial consideration, how anyone could choose the 997S over the AMV8 is mind-boggling. Performance, beauty, sound, lush interior and exclusivity is hands down in favor of the AM.
My father has an early spot for the AMV8, and it should be a blast, but I doubt it will feel as fun as the 997S or even my Elise down a twisty road. Out to dinner though...
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Oct 13, 2005 7:01:48 PM
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LowPolarMoment said:Quote:The Aston is $110k and a 997 is $70k. Why not compare the Aston to a $110k Porsche.
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.....what will happen if you put those tires on the Porsche??? Aston is bragging but they arent even takin into account that the Vantage needed special tyres to beat the Carrera S?
If you put tires on the P that could potentially improve its laptime by 10sec it would probably beat a Stradale
it said aston will offer those tires as an option, so I wouldn't say it needs "special" tires to beat the 997. For that matter, you could say that the 997 needs "special" brakes (PCCM) to achieve the time that it did. So what would happen if you put carbon ceramic brakes on the aston?
in talking about the car that set the time on the Ring, it had PCCM's...now you try buying a 997S with PCCM for 70k & see what happens
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Other than financial consideration, how anyone could choose the 997S over the AMV8 is mind-boggling. Performance, beauty, sound, lush interior and exclusivity is hands down in favor of the AM.
My god; the 997 is an old shoe. Porsche replaces the sole, laces, heal and numeric designation and sell it as a totally new car. Wake up!
Nick - I agree that I'd rather have an AM if they cost the same, except that everything I've seen indicates that the 997 wins on performance (and all reviews say the subjective driving experience of the 997 is better too). Why do you think the AM wins there? I do find AM much prettier though, but still too expensive for me...
Oct 13, 2005 7:56:54 PM
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sdy284 said: in talking about the car that set the time on the Ring, it had PCCM's...now you try buying a 997S with PCCM for 70k & see what happens
Well you can't buy it for $70k but you can buy it for a chunk less than the AM and I'm not sure how much you need PCCB's for one lap. The AM is a GT and the 997 is a sports car. I don't really think you can say one is "better".
Well you can't buy it for $70k but you can buy it for a chunk less than the AM and I'm not sure how much you need PCCB's for one lap. The AM is a GT and the 997 is a sports car. I don't really think you can say one is "better".
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Thanks for the scan.
The truth is: you just need a Cayman S to beat the vantage at the Nordschleife. (Cayman S 8.11m, Vantage 8.13m)both on normal street tires. In Hockenheim it's not close. The Vantage on PZero Corsa can't beat the 997S on normal tires.(997S 1.14.3m Vantage 1.14,8m) The Vantage on street tires is slower than a BMW M5 (Vantage 1.16.7m M5 1.16.5m)
I really like this Aston Martin, but i thougt it would be better on the track.
Blueflame
Yep, and the Mitsubishi Evo I'm going to buy will cost a third as much, seat 3 more people, have ONLY 286 hp and still lap 2 seconds faster around the ring than the Aston.
Oct 13, 2005 8:15:56 PM
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sdy284 said: in talking about the car that set the time on the Ring, it had PCCM's...now you try buying a 997S with PCCM for 70k & see what happens
Well you can't buy it for $70k but you can buy it for a chunk less than the AM and I'm not sure how much you need PCCB's for one lap. The AM is a GT and the 997 is a sports car. I don't really think you can say one is "better".
oh, im not really saying that the AM is "better" i was just responding to other peoples posts about how its using "special" tires & such, when in reality, its just an option. Just like PCCM is an option on the Porsche...thats all
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Other than financial consideration, how anyone could choose the 997S over the AMV8 is mind-boggling. Performance, beauty, sound, lush interior and exclusivity is hands down in favor of the AM.
My god; the 997 is an old shoe. Porsche replaces the sole, laces, heal and numeric designation and sell it as a totally new car. Wake up!
How could anyone choose the 911? Well Hamster explained how he picked it in the article if you read it. It drives better, both subjectively and objectively, and for a class of people that's what matters most. How is that hard to understand?
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