Nov 20, 2016 9:00:02 PM
Nov 20, 2016 9:17:12 PM
Gnil:bluelines:Kobalt:^Some people at Rennlist says last builds are in dec 2016.
They must have built 10'000 cars by then?
Didn't t someone say : anyone who wants one will get one .
Anyone is endless
Shame on Porsche to have killed one of the main USPs of the GT3 RS by producing something between 5 and 10,000 units vs. 1,800 on previous generations.
I have had four GT cars (997 GT3, 997 and 991 GT3 RS, GT4) but I now move to Mc Laren with a 675 LT where the exclusivity is guaranteed.
And I am not the only one being disappointed by this Porsche/VW policy and moving to McL.
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991 GT3 RS, Cayman GT4 / Gone: 997.2 GT3 RS 3.8, 997.2 GT3, Lotus Exige S, 964 Turbo 3.3
acky:3 new RS arrived at the local Porsche dealer.
Orange, silver and PTS blue.
Here are pics of the blue one.
Riviera Blue?
73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 16 Cayman GT4, 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550, 79 635CSi
I didn't think they were still building these. I guess right up until .2 GT3 comes out. Glad to see people get cars and any speculators crushed.
I don't have a problem with people driving for free. I have a problem with people flipping and taking allocation from people who wanted them and deserved them at MSRP. Fuck flippers.
Nov 21, 2016 7:12:01 AM
GoHardGT3RS:Shame on Porsche to have killed one of the main USPs of the GT3 RS by producing something between 5 and 10,000 units vs. 1,800 on previous generations
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991 GT3 RS, Cayman GT4 / Gone: 997.2 GT3 RS 3.8, 997.2 GT3, Lotus Exige S, 964 Turbo 3.3
The market is different then in the past . With the 997.1 or 997.2, prices have never been above list price for second hand ones . The 991 is today still above list price , even with the huge production numbers .
964 Carrera 4 -- 997.2 C2S , -20mm -- 991 GT3 RS
Gnil:bluelines:Kobalt:^Some people at Rennlist says last builds are in dec 2016.
They must have built 10'000 cars by then?
Didn't t someone say : anyone who wants one will get one .
Anyone is endless
Well, when I said this, people said this ain't true.
RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Carrera 4 GTS Cabriolet, Porsche Macan Turbo, Audi R8 V10 Plus (2017), Mini JCW (2015), Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT (2014)
RC,
Nobody puts doubts on you 😇
I think this is good lessons for speculators ,but on the other hand the speech from Porsche about the exclusive car was really bad.
they will have the produced 3x more RS than standard GT3!
the gt3 price will nevertheless go down as well as the motor looks particularly fragile .....
I m really looking forward to my mark II!
by the way, any news ? Hp ? Time ? 😱
Thanks to all of you for this excellent forum, except when we divert heavily on white gt4 or Audi which number ? Oh yes R8😏👮♀️
997 Carrera S Triple Black Sold now ... Good car 997 GT3 triple black wow what a car !!!
thierry:RC,
Nobody puts doubts on you 😇
I think this is good lessons for speculators ,but on the other hand the speech from Porsche about the exclusive car was really bad.
they will have the produced 3x more RS than standard GT3!
the gt3 price will nevertheless go down as well as the motor looks particularly fragile .....
I m really looking forward to my mark II!
by the way, any news ? Hp ? Time ? 😱
Thanks to all of you for this excellent forum, except when we divert heavily on white gt4 or Audi which number ? Oh yes R8😏👮♀️
Oh well...I just love my car...like someone else loves his.
RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Carrera 4 GTS Cabriolet, Porsche Macan Turbo, Audi R8 V10 Plus (2017), Mini JCW (2015), Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT (2014)
Porsche do it better than McLaren for now.
They milk and please the happy VIP few (918, R, coming .2 GT3 limited edition...) with exclusiv limited version.
And they milk the mass of others/pigeons/wannabe with unlimited numbers of GT3RS and .2 GT3.
McLaren is selling well to the happy few only their exclusiv version that are selling like hot cakes and dont milk enough pigeons for the standard ones.
Inspirine:Porsche do it better than McLaren for now.
They milk and please the happy VIP few (918, R, coming .2 GT3 limited edition...) with exclusiv limited version.
And they milk the mass of others/pigeons/wannabe with unlimited numbers of GT3RS and .2 GT3.
McLaren is selling well to the happy few only their exclusiv version that are selling like hot cakes and dont milk enough pigeons for the standard ones.
Porsche had always , in the past, special/limited production models , just there was not the hype around them like you witness today . I remember I could buy a Sport Classic with a 5% discount back in time (the same for the RS 4.0). Today, maybe too many see those cars as investment grade assets before looking at them as the great sport cars they are. Honestly who cares if there are 6000 or 2000 991 GT3 RS , it still remains a fantastic car. If your primary intent is to treat it as an asset class then I understand that exclusivity (read low production numbers) is high on the priority list. I do not know McLaren so I cannot comment, but one is a boutique manufacturer the other is a 200,000 units + industrial giant as such they have different levels of flexibility in addressing niches in their product portfolio.
BjoernB:....and what when the RS is the last NA RS ? yes I know the new GT3 will have a 4.0 - but what if the RS is the last build RS and hence the higher number ?
I feel pretty sure that there is another NA RS coming for 991.2 generation. Not sure if it may only be a limited edition version for the 918 owners though (seems like the build window will be very narrow and impossible to repeat the high production numbers of the current RS).
73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 16 Cayman GT4, 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550, 79 635CSi
A 991.2 GT3 RS isn't excluded but the 991.2 GT3 is a sure thing and probably the best offer (from a price/performance point of view). You can't go wrong with the new 991.2 GT3 but since Porsche improved the PDK-S again, I would think twice about getting manual.
RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Carrera 4 GTS Cabriolet, Porsche Macan Turbo, Audi R8 V10 Plus (2017), Mini JCW (2015), Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT (2014)
RC:A 991.2 GT3 RS isn't excluded but the 991.2 GT3 is a sure thing and probably the best offer (from a price/performance point of view). You can't go wrong with the new 991.2 GT3 but since Porsche improved the PDK-S again, I would think twice about getting manual.
Are they going to make the PDK-S an 8spd like new Panamera?
73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 16 Cayman GT4, 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550, 79 635CSi
Grant:RC:A 991.2 GT3 RS isn't excluded but the 991.2 GT3 is a sure thing and probably the best offer (from a price/performance point of view). You can't go wrong with the new 991.2 GT3 but since Porsche improved the PDK-S again, I would think twice about getting manual.
Are they going to make the PDK-S an 8spd like new Panamera?
I actually saw one and I think it was still 7-speed.
RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Carrera 4 GTS Cabriolet, Porsche Macan Turbo, Audi R8 V10 Plus (2017), Mini JCW (2015), Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT (2014)
RC:A 991.2 GT3 RS isn't excluded but the 991.2 GT3 is a sure thing and probably the best offer (from a price/performance point of view). You can't go wrong with the new 991.2 GT3 but since Porsche improved the PDK-S again, I would think twice about getting manual.
Is it still not clear to you that some people choose a manual DESPITE it being less quick/advanced? Same goes for 4WD...
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1992 Mercedes-Benz W124 500E / 2003 BMW M3 CSL (sold) / 2008 Porsche 911 GT3 RS / 2014 BMW-Alpina D3 biturbo Touring / 2014 BMW-Alpina B3 biturbo Touring Allrad
Porker:RC:A 991.2 GT3 RS isn't excluded but the 991.2 GT3 is a sure thing and probably the best offer (from a price/performance point of view). You can't go wrong with the new 991.2 GT3 but since Porsche improved the PDK-S again, I would think twice about getting manual.
Is it still not clear to you that some people choose a manual DESPITE it being less quick/advanced? Same goes for 4WD...
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1992 Mercedes-Benz W124 500E / 2003 BMW M3 CSL (sold) / 2008 Porsche 911 GT3 RS / 2014 BMW-Alpina D3 biturbo Touring / 2014 BMW-Alpina B3 biturbo Touring Allrad
agree, I will get it in manual no matter what PDK they put in.
if PDK only, I will not even consider buying it at all.
Tim
2010 997.2 GT3RS; 2008 Cayenne Turbo; 2006 911 Club Coupe; 2016 911 GTS Club Coupe; 2015 Macan S
Nov 22, 2016 6:23:41 AM
SciFrog:Well if there is a GT2RS then maybe the GT3RS doesn't make sense...
Indeed Porsche is very very smart, the limited editions are now the R and such and the GTx are just money makers that everyone can buy.
I'm looking forward to the day when the R's also become mere money makers.
Porker:RC:A 991.2 GT3 RS isn't excluded but the 991.2 GT3 is a sure thing and probably the best offer (from a price/performance point of view). You can't go wrong with the new 991.2 GT3 but since Porsche improved the PDK-S again, I would think twice about getting manual.
Is it still not clear to you that some people choose a manual DESPITE it being less quick/advanced? Same goes for 4WD...
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1992 Mercedes-Benz W124 500E / 2003 BMW M3 CSL (sold) / 2008 Porsche 911 GT3 RS / 2014 BMW-Alpina D3 biturbo Touring / 2014 BMW-Alpina B3 biturbo Touring Allrad
It is clear to me but I never give up hope with the blind and hopeless.
RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991 Carrera 4 GTS Cabriolet, Porsche Macan Turbo, Audi R8 V10 Plus (2017), Mini JCW (2015), Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT (2014)
Nov 22, 2016 3:09:52 PM
RC:Gnil:bluelines:Kobalt:^Some people at Rennlist says last builds are in dec 2016.
They must have built 10'000 cars by then?
Didn't t someone say : anyone who wants one will get one .
Anyone is endless
Well, when I said this, people said this ain't true.
was it regarding R8