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wtsnet said:
I assume you're being daft!
Unless it's got a passenger weight detector (Like some newer cars... MB?), it wouldn't know you had a passenger...
the 987 doesn't have that... does it? I'll have to go look in the book now!
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boothy said:
On a slightly different note (ding ding), why doesn't the warning chime when the passenger fails to fasten their seat belt ? Or is it just my car ?
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On your short journey, when a car pulls out or stops unexpectedly in front and you hit it, and you go straight through the windscreen suffering potentially serious injury ranging from lacerations, to a broken neck, or have a quick and unexpected appointment with an undertaker, you will, if you are lucky, regret the stupidity of not wearing that belt at ALL times. Even on the shortest journey and at moderate speed. The airbag will NOT save you - that is why it is known as an SRS - Supplementary Restraint System.
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jabo said:
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On your short journey, when a car pulls out or stops unexpectedly in front and you hit it, and you go straight through the windscreen suffering potentially serious injury ranging from lacerations, to a broken neck, or have a quick and unexpected appointment with an undertaker, you will, if you are lucky, regret the stupidity of not wearing that belt at ALL times. Even on the shortest journey and at moderate speed. The airbag will NOT save you - that is why it is known as an SRS - Supplementary Restraint System.
Neither will the seatbelt.
I go faster than this on my bicycle for a far greater number of miles without any belts at all.
Does that make me a Kamikaze?
Hypothetical thinking would keep you in a bunker for most of your life, where everything is utterly safe and dull.
Safety is in awareness, not hypothetical problem solving.
No amount of preparation can protect you adequately.
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jabo said:
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On your short journey, when a car pulls out or stops unexpectedly in front and you hit it, and you go straight through the windscreen suffering potentially serious injury ranging from lacerations, to a broken neck, or have a quick and unexpected appointment with an undertaker, you will, if you are lucky, regret the stupidity of not wearing that belt at ALL times. Even on the shortest journey and at moderate speed. The airbag will NOT save you - that is why it is known as an SRS - Supplementary Restraint System.
Neither will the seatbelt.
I go faster than this on my bicycle for a far greater number of miles without any belts at all.
Does that make me a Kamikaze?
Hypothetical thinking would keep you in a bunker for most of your life, where everything is utterly safe and dull.
Safety is in awareness, not hypothetical problem solving.
No amount of preparation can protect you adequately.
Sorry, I have to disagree. Use of the seat belt has been proved time after time after time to minimise injury and save lives. Wearing it does not detract in any way from enjoyment of driving. Being dead or seriously injured for the sake of 5 seconds to "belt up" is crass stupidity. Don't take chances with safety in any aspect of your life.
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wtsnet said:
I have to say, in the UK seat belt wearing has been mandatory for many many years. I feel uncomfortable and 'strange' if I don't wear a belt. It's just a matter of the wearing of the belt becoming habitual.
Oct 4, 2005 10:07:43 AM
Oct 4, 2005 10:32:47 AM
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LowPolarMoment said:If I stop at a red light and open the belt to get something out of my pocket, I don't need the annoying chime to remind me to buckle up.
Oct 4, 2005 10:37:37 AM
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LowPolarMoment said:
I'm always amazed by the varying comments here. I'll grant you that seat belts save lives. That's not the point. Annoying chimes do not save lives. I own the car. The car doesn't own me. If I want to turn off the blasted chime, I should be able to. If I stop at a red light and open the belt to get something out of my pocket, I don't need the annoying chime to remind me to buckle up. I'm going to buckle up in a few seconds with or without the chime.
Oct 4, 2005 12:32:18 PM
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dreamcar said:If there was no warning chime, and someone had an accident for not wearing a seat belt
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FixedWing said:
Do you really put your seat belt on to back your car out of the garage when you want to wash it? Stephen
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hodipo said:
why cannot some people accept, that other here on the board and in the world LIKE TO HAVE CONTROL OVER THE MACHINE and not the other way around.
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hodipo said:
why cannot some people accept, that other here on the board and in the world LIKE TO HAVE CONTROL OVER THE MACHINE and not the other way around.
it doesnt need mr. porsche himself, nor mr. bush, nor a freaking machine to tell us how to behave in this specific "seatbelt situation" = thats what it is about. not about the use of wearing a seatbelt in general. i think that nobody in the world could argue on a reasonable basis, that NOT wearing a seatbelt is a good and wise thing to do to avoid injuries .. that is for sure.
BUT WE DONT WANT A CAR TO TELL US THAT!!!!!!!!!
and now again
But don't blame Porsche - read my earlier post about who is to blame for the nanny world in which we live.
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wtsnet said:
As my last post on this thread, I thought I'd divert attention to this "I'm an American, I should be allowed to behave as I like" article (link below), and the debate responses it provoked.
http://www.dailynebraskan.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2004/09/17/414a5a030e91d?in_archive=1
Is it true that only 68% of Americans wear a seatbelt?
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paralizer said:
Finally I would like to point out that not all Americans are alike. I don't believe it is fair to paint us all with the same brush. There are more than a few of us that realize we are part of a global community and are a very distressed with what has happened within this country. Where I live we often feel very isolated from many parts of the country because we have such different views. We are a very diverse people and just because 52% of the populace elected a moron, don't hate the other 48%
by the attitude of some of the morons here who persistently refuse to be responsible adults and take their own safety seriously. And on the subject of morons, we elected a bigger one who followed yours like a tame puppy dog. Or may be lemming. Enough politics!
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paralizer said:I'll start with your question, I don't believe the 68% statistic is correct.
) In fact I was referring to a statistic mentioned by one of the respondents to the article. It may well be an old stat, agreed. Completely agree with your comments, thanks for injecting some sound words into the thread.
Oct 4, 2005 6:37:18 PM
Oct 4, 2005 6:55:40 PM
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Martin Tyler said:
(I lied)
I'd like to know if any of the people that are saying you should always wear the belt actually live somewhere (or go to places where) they have to take their belt off (to open a gate or something) then drive for about 10 seconds in a place that no other vehicle could possible be?
If I say ANYthing else on the subject, feel free to shout at me.]
Oct 4, 2005 11:27:32 PM
Quote:You've got a very limited brain if that's all you can think of. How about, " I don't want to hear the damn bell". Is that a good reason? Americans don't feel cool if they're wearing a seat belt? I wear a seat belt. I don't want to hear the bell. I only want to wear the seat belt. I wore the seatbelt before I drove a car with bells. Do you get it? This phobia you have about Americans hating all things European is unfounded. I'd hate the bell if I were driving a Corvette or a Lexus and you sound like a fool to blame it on my car being European. "I dont want the government telling me what to do" is human thing, it's not an American thing. The government works for me. I don't work for the government.
wtsnet said:Quote:Surely it wouldn't beep in that instance? Why else would I mention it. Yes, it beeps in that instance! . What about the beep that tells you that you're running out of fuel? There is no such beep in my car. I can only assume that the strong feeling on this subject by US citizens is because they:a) Think that you're somehow not cool if you wear a belt, and people will point at you and laugh.
LowPolarMoment said:If I stop at a red light and open the belt to get something out of my pocket, I don't need the annoying chime to remind me to buckle up.
b) Feel it infringes their constitutional right to do whatever they damn well feel like.
c) Don't like the government telling them what to do.
d) Don't like EUROPEANS telling them what to do!
e) All of the above.:an
Oct 5, 2005 12:32:10 AM
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hodipo said:
of course u are right with your remarks, but i think that it is the CLIENT/DRIVER who should have the choice what to do in his car .. non? i don't want porsche, you or anybody else to tell me what to do in my car, when i am not hurting or putting at danger anybody else, which is not the case if i do not buckle the belt .. so come on: it is a legal question to ask how u can kill the "ding ding" without receiving answers that try to give orders ..
sorry .. but this has to be said ..
) down, or 2. crank up the stereo so loud-you can't even hear the engine, let alone the warning chime on the dashboard. But the best solution remains 3. Buckle up dudes. Sorry for coming off so curmudgeonly, but if F1 drivers can buckle up, then so can we.
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