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Sep 28, 2005 3:10:46 PM

Oxonian: Pilot; Loc: Jeddah, Saudi Arabia; Posts: 488, Gallery; Registered on: Sep 28, 2005

Do you like this 'economy' 997 C2 configuration?

Dear Porsche fans:

I'm about to place an order for my first Porsche. After reading many posts in this forum, I'm thinking of the following:

Carrera Coupe base
$71,300.00

Green Standard Metallic
$825.00

Sand Beige Full Leather
$3,365.00

Sand Beige Floor Mats
$115.00

Tiptronic S
$3,420.00

Self Dimming Mirrors
$385.00

Telephone Preparation
$340.00

Park Assist System
$530.00

Bi-Xenon Headlamp Package
$1,090.00

Total US $81,370.00

I'm trying very hard to stay below $80k as I will be paying cash. I care more about comfort and status than performance

(sorry if I'm being blunt).

Do you like the above colors and configuration?

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Sep 28, 2005 3:24:26 PM

WF: Co-Pilot; Loc: Holland; Posts: 175, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 22, 2003; Reply to: Oxonian

Re: Do you like this 'economy' 997 C2 configuration?

I would pay the additional money for olive green without a doubt. It is Such a beautifull color.

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Sep 28, 2005 3:28:56 PM

964C2: Expert; Loc: Dallas, TX , United States; Posts: 1825, Gallery; Registered on: May 11, 2004; Reply to: Oxonian

Re: Do you like this 'economy' 997 C2 configuration?

Looks like a good configuration that meets your goals.....

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Sep 28, 2005 3:50:22 PM

ISUK: Rennteam Master; Loc: UK , United Kingdom; Posts: 4206, Gallery; Registered on: Dec 16, 2004; Reply to: 964C2

Re: Do you like this 'economy' 997 C2 configuration?

You might want to drop the phone option and go for an aftermarket bluetooth option instead. I have the phone option in my C2 but you need to insert your SIM card in the little drawer every time you use the car or get a second duplicate SIM. I've also got the tiptronic but I'd go manual next time round. Dropping tip would keep you well within budget and allow a few other goodies.

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Sep 28, 2005 3:53:14 PM

sdy284: Expert; Loc: Wisconsin, USA; Posts: 1348, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 7, 2005; Reply to: Oxonian

Re: Do you like this 'economy' 997 C2 configuration?

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Oxonian said:
Dear Porsche fans:

I'm about to place an order for my first Porsche. After reading many posts in this forum, I'm thinking of the following:

Carrera Coupe base
$71,300.00

Green Standard Metallic
$825.00

Sand Beige Full Leather
$3,365.00

Sand Beige Floor Mats
$115.00

Tiptronic S
$3,420.00

Self Dimming Mirrors
$385.00

Telephone Preparation
$340.00

Park Assist System
$530.00

Bi-Xenon Headlamp Package
$1,090.00

Total US $81,370.00

I'm trying very hard to stay below $80k as I will be paying cash. I care more about comfort and status than performance (sorry if I'm being blunt).

Do you like the above colors and configuration?

its funny...you'd think self dimming mirrors would be standard on a car with a base price of ~ $70k

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Sep 28, 2005 4:11:38 PM

MMD: Rennteam VIP; Loc: usa; Posts: 9652, Gallery; Registered on: Dec 16, 2004; Reply to: sdy284

Re: Do you like this 'economy' 997 C2 configuration?

No. Tip and park assist are dreaded compromises.

Status over performance is NOT a good reason to get Porsche. It's a good reason to get a Cadillac whihc is much cheaper and yet more people mistakenly think it's on the level of BMW and Porsche.

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Sep 28, 2005 4:27:21 PM

sdy284: Expert; Loc: Wisconsin, USA; Posts: 1348, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 7, 2005; Reply to: MMD

Re: Do you like this 'economy' 997 C2 configuration?

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MMD said:
No. Tip and park assist are dreaded compromises.

Status over performance is NOT a good reason to get Porsche. It's a good reason to get a Cadillac whihc is much cheaper and yet more people mistakenly think it's on the level of BMW and Porsche.

i could understand your reasoning for shooting down the tip...its obvious. But why is park assist such a bad thing?

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Sep 28, 2005 4:37:39 PM

993Targa: Rennteam Pro; Loc: ZH , Switzerland; Posts: 2522, Gallery; Registered on: Sep 16, 2004; Reply to: sdy284

Re: Do you like this 'economy' 997 C2 configuration?

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sdy284 said:
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MMD said:
No. Tip and park assist are dreaded compromises.

Status over performance is NOT a good reason to get Porsche. It's a good reason to get a Cadillac whihc is much cheaper and yet more people mistakenly think it's on the level of BMW and Porsche.

i could understand your reasoning for shooting down the tip...its obvious. But why is park assist such a bad thing?

I wouln't get park assist myself, but can understand. What i do not understand is why anybody (unless you are handicapped) would pay extra to get tip. You lose that money the moment you exit the showroom. It actually decreases resale value.

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Sep 28, 2005 5:52:38 PM

Ando: Junior; Loc: London, England.; Posts: 99, Gallery; Registered on: May 11, 2004; Reply to: ISUK

Re: Do you like this 'economy' 997 C2 configuration?

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ISUK said:
You might want to drop the phone option and go for an aftermarket bluetooth option instead. I have the phone option in my C2 but you need to insert your SIM card in the little drawer every time you use the car or get a second duplicate SIM. I've also got the tiptronic but I'd go manual next time round. Dropping tip would keep you well within budget and allow a few other goodies.

I can second that, the SIM card swapping is a pain and the reception on the built in thing is rubbish, I always get people telling me they can't hear me. Does anyone else (especially in the UK but any answers would be appreciated) have this problem??

PS I would ditch the headlights aswell as the Tip' and park sensors if you want to save some more money. Otherwise I like the spec...whats left of it!!

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Sep 28, 2005 5:53:30 PM

john999s: Senior; Loc: Hessen, Germany , Germany; Posts: 630, Gallery; Registered on: Sep 10, 2005; Reply to: 993Targa

Re: Do you like this 'economy' 997 C2 configuration?

I'd drop the park assist (it's not a big car), tip (gearbox is great)and dimming mirrors and add PSE. Once you try PSE you never go back.... That'd be a lot like my old 996C2 which was a great driver's car. Maybe 2-tone the interior with black dash top/wheel to stop reflections? Nav in the 997 is great which you could also put in with the money you save with manual box.

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Sep 28, 2005 6:41:24 PM

Deven: Junior; Loc: Scottsdale, Arizona; Posts: 78, Gallery; Registered on: Jul 26, 2005; Reply to: john999s

Re: Do you like this 'economy' 997 C2 configuration?

The telephone preperation thing you need to be careful about (It took me a while to figure this opption out)Option 666 which costs ~$960, will allow the sim card to work, (and then alow you to use the hands free mic, etc). The telephone prep does not do that for you.

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Sep 28, 2005 6:42:17 PM

MMD: Rennteam VIP; Loc: usa; Posts: 9652, Gallery; Registered on: Dec 16, 2004; Reply to: john999s

Re: Do you like this 'economy' 997 C2 configuration?

The PA messes up the rear bumper on light-colored cars. Not so bad in darker colors. By "messes up" I mean adds more visual confusion (junk) to the exterior appearance.

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Sep 28, 2005 7:04:23 PM

Oxonian: Pilot; Loc: Jeddah, Saudi Arabia; Posts: 488, Gallery; Registered on: Sep 28, 2005; Reply to: MMD

Re: Do you like this 'economy' 997 C2 configuration?

A big thank you to all those who contributed...this has really clarified so many things...

I have to keep Tip and PA because I'm a very bad driver, otherwise, I'll ruin the car!

MMD: I can't stand cadillacs...i've dreamt of a porsche since childhood, no turning now!

I think I will cancel the telephone prep.

Maybe I should go for two-tone interior (see my next post about the colour green).

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Sep 28, 2005 7:20:07 PM

beltar: Veteran; Loc: belgium , Belgium; Posts: 1232, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 15, 2005; Reply to: Oxonian

Re: Do you like this 'economy' 997 C2 configuration?

JUst have a thaught concerning the colour, green is very difficult to get rid off afterwards...
I know, all p's are black , silver or seal, but seeing you have to keep a budget in balance(like me) i would consider another colourspec..

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Sep 28, 2005 8:07:39 PM

Turbo 911: Co-Pilot; Loc:; Posts: 185, Gallery; Registered on: Aug 29, 2005; Reply to: Oxonian

Re: Do you like this 'economy' 997 C2 configuration?

I do not like the colour combo - but this is purely my opinion - there is no right or wrong colour (if you like it, it's fine). I would also scrap the Phone module and try an aftermarket phone kit. Navigation is good but if you do not need it then your car is otherwise quite good:)

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Sep 28, 2005 9:55:26 PM

LowPolarMoment: Senior; Loc: Boca Raton, FL; Posts: 725, Gallery; Registered on: May 22, 2005; Reply to: sdy284

Re: Do you like this 'economy' 997 C2 configuration?

sdy284 said:

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its funny...you'd think self dimming mirrors would be standard on a car with a base price of ~ $70k

How about floor mats on a $70k car!

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Sep 28, 2005 10:38:40 PM

ISUK: Rennteam Master; Loc: UK , United Kingdom; Posts: 4206, Gallery; Registered on: Dec 16, 2004; Reply to: Ando

Re: Do you like this 'economy' 997 C2 configuration?

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Ando said:
I can second that, the SIM card swapping is a pain and the reception on the built in thing is rubbish, I always get people telling me they can't hear me. Does anyone else (especially in the UK but any answers would be appreciated) have this problem??

Apart from the pain of the SIM my phone works fine with good reception and callers say they can barely tell I'm in the car. Have you checked the microphone volume level? I'd get your dealer to check out your car if the problem persists. It may be a software glitch or a microphone issue.

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Sep 28, 2005 10:40:03 PM

greggr107: Pilot; Loc: San Jose, CA; Posts: 385, Gallery; Registered on: Jul 20, 2005; Reply to: MMD

Re: Do you like this 'economy' 997 C2 configuration?

Quote:
MMD said:
Status over performance is NOT a good reason to get Porsche. It's a good reason to get a Cadillac whihc is much cheaper and yet more people mistakenly think it's on the level of BMW and Porsche.

Cmon MMD, do you really think everyboy on rennteam takes these cars to the limits? Or even near them? Of course there are some hardcore sport enthusiasts, but if status is more important to him over performance, more power to him. It took me 20 years of saving and investments to get my S, and I know it makes me feel good when I see how others appreciate my car

BTW Oxo, I would also drop the park assist. You can't be that bad of a driver, these things are a breeze to park, believe me, super tight turning radius, easy to guage, etc.. I would drop that and the Tip, thats $4K right there, GET PSE it will give you chills!

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Sep 28, 2005 11:33:41 PM

PivotPoint: Newbie; Loc: Ct; Posts: 5, Gallery; Registered on: Aug 5, 2005; Reply to: Oxonian

Re: Do you like this 'economy' 997 C2 configuration?

Oxonion,

Good luck with your making your color selection. Most buyers spend countless hours looking at pictures and anquishing about color choice. Additional options really come down to unique preferences and needs.

I placed my order at the end of August and my car is scheduled for production in November. My goal was to try and keep it around $80k since I also will be paying cash. My total price with destination and discount came to $80,065. Below are the options I selected.

Seal Grey Metallic
19" Carrerra Classic Wheels
Wheel Center Set
Bi-Xenon
Auto Dimming
Sport Chrono Package
Sport Exhaust System
Electrically adjustable seats
Three Spoke Leather Sports Steering Wheel
Porsche Crest on Head Restraints
TPMS
Black Mats

I bounced around with the tremendous amount of options offered. Signed my name and wrote a check and feel confident I'll have no regrets. I can't wait till Christmas. Good luck with your choices.

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Sep 28, 2005 11:35:20 PM

Oxonian: Pilot; Loc: Jeddah, Saudi Arabia; Posts: 488, Gallery; Registered on: Sep 28, 2005; Reply to: greggr107

Re: Do you like this 'economy' 997 C2 configuration?

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BTW Oxo, I would also drop the park assist. You can't be that bad of a driver, these things are a breeze to park, believe me, super tight turning radius, easy to guage, etc.. I would drop that and the Tip, thats $4K right there, GET PSE it will give you chills!

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Sep 28, 2005 11:36:54 PM

Oxonian: Pilot; Loc: Jeddah, Saudi Arabia; Posts: 488, Gallery; Registered on: Sep 28, 2005; Reply to: Oxonian

Re: Do you like this 'economy' 997 C2 configuration?

Greggr107:
PA is not too expensive. However, I drive into traffic jams more often than I would like to. I think that the Tiptronic will make life less stressful.

BTW, the Porsche will become my primary car. I will go to work, meetings, weekend breaks, etc... It's not gonna sit waiting for the right 'manual' mood.

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Sep 28, 2005 11:41:18 PM

Rami: Senior; Loc: Belgium; Posts: 760, Gallery; Registered on: Feb 6, 2005; Reply to: Oxonian

Re: Do you like this 'economy' 997 C2 configuration?

Does anybody here have pictures of an Olive green P (preferably the Pepper or a 997)?

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Sep 28, 2005 11:43:32 PM

Oxonian: Pilot; Loc: Jeddah, Saudi Arabia; Posts: 488, Gallery; Registered on: Sep 28, 2005; Reply to: Oxonian

Re: Do you like this 'economy' 997 C2 configuration?

PivotPoint:
Seems you went for the "sportier-economy" config. I was trying to come-up with a "luxury-economy" config.

BTW, do I need to order wood or aluminum? Will I end up with cheap plastic instead? What colour is the plastic anyway?

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Sep 29, 2005 12:11:54 AM

PivotPoint: Newbie; Loc: Ct; Posts: 5, Gallery; Registered on: Aug 5, 2005; Reply to: Oxonian

Re: Do you like this 'economy' 997 C2 configuration?

Oxonion,

If your set on $80k you might want to spend a weekend looking at some other dealers luxury cars. You have alot to choose from in that price range.

Black worked best for me. Sand floor mats scared the heck out of me. I felt everything was top notch and witnessed no cheap plastic. Wasn't real interested in wood or aluminum. I was drawn to Porsche because of performance. If I didn't care about performance and leaned more toward luxury, I'd check out Mercedes, BMW and Audi. After driving a few of those cars, I'd make my decision.

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Sep 29, 2005 12:24:03 AM

Oxonian: Pilot; Loc: Jeddah, Saudi Arabia; Posts: 488, Gallery; Registered on: Sep 28, 2005; Reply to: PivotPoint

Re: Do you like this 'economy' 997 C2 configuration?

PivotPoint:
I had an S-Class (93-99) and a 5-Series (00-05), and while both were flawless, they all had less than exciting performance. Audi's brand is second-class compared to Porsche, BMW and Merc.

Besides, I don't think any of the other German brands can offer more driving satisfaction than Porsche. It's just that I want a bit of crerature comforts without breaking the bank account.

Am I asking for too much?

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Sep 29, 2005 12:50:57 AM

GA997S: Veteran; Loc: Athens, Georgia, USA; Posts: 1059, Gallery; Registered on: Aug 19, 2005; Reply to: Oxonian

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Not asking too much. Get TIP & park assist. It appears to be your style. Must have Power Seats & Bose though.

I, OTOH, must have SCab, 6spd, PSE, 19" Sport Designs, and yes at the same time, full leather, NAV, SIM slot, PA, BOSE, Power/Heated Seats.

Green/Sand is great but Green/bi-color? Yuck. Don't get me wrong.. I like bi-color but only w/ some colors. Is full leather worth it w/o all other leather finishers?

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Sep 29, 2005 1:02:18 AM

carcam: Junior; Loc: nc, usa; Posts: 118, Gallery; Registered on: Aug 12, 2004; Reply to: john999s

Re: Do you like this 'economy' 997 C2 configuration?

Sounds like a very nice car. I agree on the phone and park assist- both easily not missed if you don't get them. I have the 6 speed 997S and love to shift through the gears but there are times when it would be nice to let the car shift. Get want you want and don't worry about anyone else or resale.

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Sep 29, 2005 1:07:19 AM

MMD: Rennteam VIP; Loc: usa; Posts: 9652, Gallery; Registered on: Dec 16, 2004; Reply to: greggr107

Re: Do you like this 'economy' 997 C2 configuration?

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greggr107 said:
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MMD said:
Status over performance is NOT a good reason to get Porsche. It's a good reason to get a Cadillac whihc is much cheaper and yet more people mistakenly think it's on the level of BMW and Porsche.

Cmon MMD, do you really think everyboy on rennteam takes these cars to the limits? Or even near them? Of course there are some hardcore sport enthusiasts, but if status is more important to him over performance, more power to him.

Yeah I understand. Whatever makes people happy. I got the car because I like nice things. I also got it for max HP to pass slower cars on two lane rural highways. I think I take the car to one of it's limits everyday.

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Sep 29, 2005 1:09:10 AM

greggr107: Pilot; Loc: San Jose, CA; Posts: 385, Gallery; Registered on: Jul 20, 2005; Reply to: Oxonian

Re: Do you like this 'economy' 997 C2 configuration?

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Oxonian said:

BTW, do I need to order wood or aluminum? Will I end up with cheap plastic instead? What colour is the plastic anyway?

Here's my standard (non full leather) interior.. doesn't look cheap by any means, there is limited plastic, pretty much just the console area. The dash/ doors are some type of vinyl/rubber composite material, actually looks better in person. Does have leather/power seats though..

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Sep 29, 2005 1:09:46 AM

greggr107: Pilot; Loc: San Jose, CA; Posts: 385, Gallery; Registered on: Jul 20, 2005; Reply to: greggr107

Re: Do you like this 'economy' 997 C2 configuration?

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