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Re: Please Vote. F430 vs. Gallardo.
Like both the 430's exterior styling and interior detailing (seats, steering wheel, instrument panel, ability to customize, etc)far more than G-car.... 
Had one of first G-cars delivered in CA....IMO couldn't even beat an aging 360 in dynamics and "feel", let alone the 430....and was a hell of a lot less practical...
But I guess G-car's resale value shows the mkt's view of G-car vs F....
Anyone know how many G-cars Lambo has sold in US and worldwide....and what nos. they had indicated (before launch) they expected to sell?
Had one of first G-cars delivered in CA....IMO couldn't even beat an aging 360 in dynamics and "feel", let alone the 430....and was a hell of a lot less practical...
But I guess G-car's resale value shows the mkt's view of G-car vs F....
Anyone know how many G-cars Lambo has sold in US and worldwide....and what nos. they had indicated (before launch) they expected to sell?
Re: Please Vote. F430 vs. Gallardo.
You had a Gallardo ? Very cool.
Tell me more please about it's practical limitaions. For the past week I cant get the idea of picking up a pre-owned one at these market prices. Is it mostly clearance and rear visibilty issues or a lot more than that ?
tia~
Tell me more please about it's practical limitaions. For the past week I cant get the idea of picking up a pre-owned one at these market prices. Is it mostly clearance and rear visibilty issues or a lot more than that ?
tia~
Re: Please Vote. F430 vs. Gallardo.
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You had a Gallardo ? Very cool.
Tell me more please about it's practical limitaions. For the past week I cant get the idea of picking up a pre-owned one at these market prices. Is it mostly clearance and rear visibilty issues or a lot more than that ?
tia~
hehehe stradale, i think you misunderstood me, i never said i had owned one. I stored my friend's G for him at my place, while he was rennovating his house and was overseas for business. had it for 2 months, it is VERY VERY loud even with stock pipes! the ground clearance if you're careful you will be fine, you can raise the height of the car by pressing a couple buttons
Sep 22, 2005 6:50:52 PM
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Re: Please Vote. F430 vs. Gallardo.
I really dont see how u can vote for the F430 when it is really a design forced upon the pure 360 design. the intakes are all bigger (too big!) bc of the extra cooling needed; the tail lights look like little marshmallows stuck on while the G exterior is so pure in its wedge form and crisp intakes on the side and front. The interior may go to the F430, but thats about it, imo.
Re: Please Vote. F430 vs. Gallardo.
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You had a Gallardo ? Very cool.
Tell me more please about it's practical limitaions. For the past week I cant get the idea of picking up a pre-owned one at these market prices. Is it mostly clearance and rear visibilty issues or a lot more than that ?
tia~
Strad, the clearance was a royal PITA (vs 360/430) in getting into many gas stations, sloped garages/driveways....I heard they now offer ht adjustment feature that may help.
Interior was terrible for simple interior storage stuff...cell phone/Blkberry/sunglasses/garage dr openers, etc. Trunk was worthless even for my very limited carrying needs (occasionally cart a case or two of wine/wkly dry cleaning....for which F trunk is like an SUV's...even vs 996TTS).
Also, more importantly, brakes would start to fade during my usual wkend mtn road drives, where brakes of 360CS/430 w/CCM/996TTS would show zero signs of fatigue....I guess the G-car's similarities to the M5/6 are more than just the V-10 motor...
Did roughly 3K mis on car in 3-4 mos; was able to get out w/minimal hit as had a creative salesguy/broker who shipped car to a London broker who was able to pay up as there was shortage of G-cars at time and there was some Euro vs US pricing arb that he was able to play....
Sep 22, 2005 7:45:50 PM
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Re: Please Vote. F430 vs. Gallardo.
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STRADALE said:
You had a Gallardo ? Very cool.
Tell me more please about it's practical limitaions. For the past week I cant get the idea of picking up a pre-owned one at these market prices. Is it mostly clearance and rear visibilty issues or a lot more than that ?
tia~
Strad, the clearance was a royal PITA (vs 360/430) in getting into many gas stations, sloped garages/driveways....I heard they now offer ht adjustment feature that may help.
Interior was terrible for simple interior storage stuff...cell phone/Blkberry/sunglasses/garage dr openers, etc. Trunk was worthless even for my very limited carrying needs (occasionally cart a case or two of wine/wkly dry cleaning....for which F trunk is like an SUV's...even vs 996TTS).
Also, more importantly, brakes would start to fade during my usual wkend mtn road drives, where brakes of 360CS/430 w/CCM/996TTS would show zero signs of fatigue....I guess the G-car's similarities to the M5/6 are more than just the V-10 motor...
Did roughly 3K mis on car in 3-4 mos; was able to get out w/minimal hit as had a creative salesguy/broker who shipped car to a London broker who was able to pay up as there was shortage of G-cars at time and there was some Euro vs US pricing arb that he was able to play....
Thanks !
That's another thing to consider when evaluating the looks of the 430 vs. Gallardo.
Sep 22, 2005 10:59:55 PM
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Re: Please Vote. F430 vs. Gallardo.
This is really a tough choice. These are the two vehicles I'm considering for the next step. M&R costs may kill them both. I may end up sticking with Porsche since I drive my cars hard and alot. I've checked out the Lambo so far at Ferrari of Washington. Very tempting, but the cockpit didn't impress me. My 997 was far superior in layout, position of the driver, no blind spots, etc., and I've already seen how my performance is not as far off as I expected when running with my friends in group drives on country roads. Anyway, I have lots of time to figure this one out. It's good to see the views of others!
Sep 22, 2005 11:19:25 PM
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Re: Please Vote. F430 vs. Gallardo.
The Gallardo is so cool and masculine it makes the 430 look like...a Ferrari.
Two beautiful cars. The Gallardo far more special to look at, but probably also so special designwise, that some buyers will look at the car in a few years frm now and say "what the hell was I thinking".
The F430 is a gorgeous car, but like all Ferraris and Porsches its design is a bit too predictable, too conservative.
I'm comparing a supercar to a supercar....none of these are exactly conservative looking compared to regular cars.
If I could afford the danish 500.000$ pricetag each of these cars carry, I'd pick the Gallardo - but I'd probably have some sleepless nights making up my mind.
Two beautiful cars. The Gallardo far more special to look at, but probably also so special designwise, that some buyers will look at the car in a few years frm now and say "what the hell was I thinking".
The F430 is a gorgeous car, but like all Ferraris and Porsches its design is a bit too predictable, too conservative.
I'm comparing a supercar to a supercar....none of these are exactly conservative looking compared to regular cars.
If I could afford the danish 500.000$ pricetag each of these cars carry, I'd pick the Gallardo - but I'd probably have some sleepless nights making up my mind.
Mine seems smoother and faster by the week. Re: Please Vote. F430 vs. Gallardo.
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hehehe stradale, i think you misunderstood me, i never said i had owned one. I stored my friend's G for him at my place, while he was rennovating his house and was overseas for business. had it for 2 months. . . .
Mike,
"Stored" it?
Sep 23, 2005 1:18:22 AM
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Sep 23, 2005 1:18:17 PM
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Re: Please Vote. F430 vs. Gallardo.
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I've already seen how my performance is not as far off as I expected when running with my friends in group drives on country roads
What do you mean by not far off??? Would a good driver in a Cs be able to hold off an average one in a Gallardo?
Re: Please Vote. F430 vs. Gallardo.
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hehehe stradale, i think you misunderstood me, i never said i had owned one. I stored my friend's G for him at my place, while he was rennovating his house and was overseas for business. had it for 2 months. . . .
Mike,
"Stored" it?
of course I "floored" it a couple times, he didn't mind me going for a couple spins in it anyway
Sep 23, 2005 1:52:12 PM
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Re: Please Vote. F430 vs. Gallardo.
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That's another thing to consider when evaluating the looks of the 430 vs. Gallardo.
lambos have ccm's as of this month as well stradale
Those look like Murci wheels. (love them btw) Are the CCB's for Gallardo's as well ?
Sep 23, 2005 4:48:07 PM
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Re: Please Vote. F430 vs. Gallardo.
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ANGLES COME AND ANGLES GO BUT CURVES ARE FOREVER!
Yup. So far it's the Curvaceous designs that stand the test of time.
Doubt those "curves" will stand the test of time
....but they make new versions of those curves every yr .....just trade-'em in when the curves aren't what they once were....that's why it tends to be cheaper to rent/lease than to buy those curves....
Re: Please Vote. F430 vs. Gallardo.
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STRADALE said:Quote:
LowPolarMoment said:
ANGLES COME AND ANGLES GO BUT CURVES ARE FOREVER!
Yup. So far it's the Curvaceous designs that stand the test of time.
Doubt those "curves" will stand the test of time
Re: Please Vote. F430 vs. Gallardo.
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Mike S said:Quote:
STRADALE said:
That's another thing to consider when evaluating the looks of the 430 vs. Gallardo.
lambos have ccm's as of this month as well stradale
Those look like Murci wheels. (love them btw) Are the CCB's for Gallardo's as well ?
yeah it was off the murcie on display there. i'm sure you are able get the CCM's for the Gallardo as well.
ps. lol at the above post
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