Sep 13, 2005 5:52:07 PM
- SoCalHoosier
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Sep 13, 2005 7:10:48 PM
- Ray G
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Clearly a photoshop job. Check out the side air intakes blown up in this pics. The vents are all jagged and there are lots of jpeg artifacts. Thank God, because those vents look aweful.
Actually, that part does not look photoshopped. Redrawing in PS would tend to remove the JPG artifacts because of bluring and smoothing. Also the slight shadows in the middle of each strake looks real to me, or it's the work of a PS masochist. It's possible the image was compressed heavily after PS'ing, which would introduce the JPG blocking.
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nberry said:
If this is close to the final product then hope its performance is outstanding to make up for its appearance. It really is butt ugly.
Nick, we finally agree on something! If this is the real thing, then Porsche missed yet another opportunity to recreate the 911.
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If this is close to the final product then hope its performance is outstanding to make up for its appearance. It really is butt ugly.
Nick, we finally agree on something! If this is the real thing, then Porsche missed yet another opportunity to recreate the 911.
Ray I knew it would be a matter of time before we agreed on something. Now that I thinking about there was something else we agreed upon.. The color combo of your CGT.The best of the bunch.
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would be nice to have the CGT headlights on the 977TT ..
my thoughts exactly.
whether or not these pics are close/chopped, i'm rather disappointed.
the rear's as expected, basically, but the front could've been so awe-inspiring and instead...
well...
a missed opportunity for P to capitalise on a strategic swing into the 998~~
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There's no way that's what the Turbo will look like. Porsche is too good to let that happen.
Completely agree, that was exactly my point. Actually, Carlos' photoshop update of the 997TT based on more recent spy pics was a good rendition. He kept out the horizontal slats from the side intakes. Maybe he or someone could find his P-shop image and upload it here.
As for all the guys on this thread denigrating the looks of the 997TT based on the appearance/p-shopped variations of these test mules, I suspect much (maybe not all) of the criticism comes from folks with no plans to buy one in the first place. Let's at least wait for the official unveiling in (?) Geneva.
Sep 14, 2005 3:06:29 AM
- NeverFastEnough
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Re: New 997TT spy shots
Like all the posts here I too am hoping this is a bad photoshop...maybe done by someone who likes Pontiacs or Dodges. Otherwise the "classic clean lines" of Porsche has been lost. This car looks way too out of proportion and busy...overkill on the horizontal slats. Lets all hope the final version is better (and that this is not it or that it looks better in person!). Otherwise it will have to be based on performance that people buy it because it sure won't be for it's looks.
Or maybe it will just "grow on us."
Or maybe it will just "grow on us."
Sep 14, 2005 7:51:46 AM
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Completely agree, that was exactly my point. Actually, Carlos' photoshop update of the 997TT based on more recent spy pics was a good rendition. He kept out the horizontal slats from the side intakes. Maybe he or someone could find his P-shop image and upload it here.
Sep 14, 2005 7:58:49 AM
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I only wish you could get wheels like that on the 997 , Just like they brought back the round style lights they need to bring back a good new version of the twisters that concept was around for 10 years for a reason .. You must like that style also for you to keep putting it on the PS things you do ... great work can we see it in black .
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But the upcoming 997 Turbo S will "destroy" the F430, even the upcoming Challenge version, on the street and on the track
RC, why so combative?
get a ferrari! it makes you relaxed. you will immediately stop thinking about probable 'ring times. you will just enjoy the car. at any speed.
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But the upcoming 997 Turbo S will "destroy" the F430, even the upcoming Challenge version, on the street and on the track
RC, why so combative?
get a ferrari! it makes you relaxed. you will immediately stop thinking about probable 'ring times. you will just enjoy the car. at any speed.
Didn't RC hint somewhere that he had a Gallardo Spider on order?? Either way, get a LAmbo and you'll forget about both Ferrari and Porsche!
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But the upcoming 997 Turbo S will "destroy" the F430, even the upcoming Challenge version, on the street and on the track
RC, why so combative?
get a ferrari! it makes you relaxed. you will immediately stop thinking about probable 'ring times. you will just enjoy the car. at any speed.
... until a TT shows up in your rear mirror...
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With Ferrari paying over sticker seems wasteful no matter how much money you have . But this time around wanted a spider .. I hope when the 997 TT Cab is out all thoughts of the Ferrari will be gone . One thing is for sure when Porsche went with the 996 the Ferrari started to look great . Carlos if you are around can you do your PhotoShop TT in black , thanks .
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RC, why so combative?
get a ferrari! it makes you relaxed. you will immediately stop thinking about probable 'ring times. you will just enjoy the car. at any speed.
I can be relaxed at 60 but I'm 40 now.
Honestly, I love the F430 but it wouldn't be the car for me. I want something which doesn't attract too much attention but still outruns almost everything out on the street. Not that I really need it but it is a good feeling to know that you can...if you want to.
I owned a 996 Turbo with 543 HP on the paper. After driving such a monster, only a Enzo would be a real upgrade. The 997 Carrea S was some sort of VERY nice interlude to have fun without spending too much money. The 997 Turbo S is exactly what I was waiting for, my car for the next four years without having to regret it or to want something else.
So for the same money, I get a beast which I can easily upgrade to 600 HP and more any time I feel that way. I think you and CR need more work AND two kids and a wife to understand what it means to have only 30 minutes in such a car. When I'm 60 or over, I may come to my senses and get a more comfortable and/or relaxing car. But til then, I need a driving machine and I don't give a damn how it looks...it has to be MEAN and FAST and SAFE and it has to raise my blood pressure, my pulse and all my senses. Pure adrenalin...this is what I want.
BTW: don't forget that my first car was a Lancia Beta Coupe and I drove ONLY italian cars for the first couple of years, including the group N racing Deltas and a nice Lancia Thema 8.32 with Ferrari engine. Of course a Lancia was no Ferrari but I'm already past the italian car thing, only the Enzo would really attract me but for this kind of car, I don't have the money...and don't have the right neighborhood either.
I never understood why you sold your GT3 RS to get a F430 but at the same time I don't understand why somebody would own a F430 Spider and 996 Turbo with lots of cohones but love to drive around in a BMW 7 series Diesel (hi...
). 
I can't even drive my wife's Boxster S relaxed, this is me. And the funny thing is: people who know me, know that I'm actually the most relaxed person in the world. Maybe I just need that car thing like some sort of balance therapy to keep my engine (body/brain/etc.) up and running.
For me, my car isn't a car. It is a toy. When I look at my two year old boy who loves his toy cars and carries them around with him all the time...this is ME. I love cars because I love playing with them. And even if they aren't always stylish (my son rips off the wheels, doors, mirrors, etc. from his toy cars but still loves to play with those wrecks), I love playing with them.
Too much money has gone down the drain for nice cars but who are just nice but no real fun like my former E55 AMG.
Ferrari never attracted me, don't know why. Maybe I was too involved with italian cars, mechanics, engineers and Fiat, I may not have too much sympathy left for them.
But again: the F430 is in my opinion the most beautiful and best Ferrari available up to date, so you should be happy with your decision. I got the Porsche virus...can't help it, there is no cure.
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