Jul 19, 2005 6:58:27 AM
- Flying_Dutchman
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Jul 19, 2005 6:58:27 AM
Jul 19, 2005 4:56:51 PM
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Dr. Carrera said:
Not that it matters to this thread debate (at all) but I'll be test-driving a Euro C6 Targa today. With the cheap dollar it's a bargain over here in Europe (with the discount I can secure, half the prize of a 997 S ). I'll see if it can mean anything in terms of sensation, compared to my 911 (I have my doubts there...). Will keep you posted.
Jul 20, 2005 1:20:32 AM
Jul 20, 2005 6:46:32 PM
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Fiorentina 1 said:
...But, he never gets calls from Manthey or Alzen to drive their Porsches.....
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turbolite said:
I would say the car is pretty much 'unsorted'. and what also should be taken into considertion is the fact that its a 5 gear car only in reality as the 6th is way too long. this is a ridiculous proposition for a serious sportscar...
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JimFlat6 said:
Changing the final drive gear ratio in a Corvette transaxle is not that expensive.
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Ferdie said:Quote:
Fiorentina 1 said:
...But, he never gets calls from Manthey or Alzen to drive their Porsches.....
Has Magnussen been offered a spot in these cars?
Jul 26, 2005 3:38:47 PM
Jul 26, 2005 3:49:39 PM
Jul 26, 2005 4:00:50 PM
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Dr. Carrera said:The car is also excessively sensitive to tram-lining. The steering wheel is overly servo-assisted and does not give any feedback to the driver on road and grip conditions.
Jul 26, 2005 5:03:06 PM
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SoCalHoosier said:
...yes I agree, however lately Porsche's slogan should also be...
"There is no R&D"
Jul 26, 2005 5:27:12 PM
Jul 26, 2005 5:30:08 PM
Jul 26, 2005 5:39:01 PM
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SoCalHoosier said:
So you think that the 997 is a step that we should've waited 7 years for? Name one sportscar manufacturer who puts out a product that is nearly identical and charges more. (the 430 is a huge upgrade on the 360)
Jul 26, 2005 5:45:17 PM
Jul 26, 2005 5:59:53 PM
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Justin said:
The huge jump to the F430 for example was no doubt a response to Lamborghini, and to ensure the 997 Turbo does not overwhelm it.
Jul 26, 2005 6:22:12 PM
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SoCalHoosier said:
So you think that the 997 is a step that we should've waited 7 years for? Do you really feel that the engine difference is even 5 years of R&D? Isn't the power nearly equal to the anniversary edition of the 996? (345 ... 355) Should we have to pay through our nose for that "upgrade"? Is it not true that 911s nearly make 40K in profit for Porsche per car built? Name one sportscar manufacturer who puts out a product that is nearly identical and charges more. (the 430 is a huge upgrade on the 360)
Jul 26, 2005 6:28:09 PM
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Grant said:Quote:
SoCalHoosier said:
So you think that the 997 is a step that we should've waited 7 years for? Name one sportscar manufacturer who puts out a product that is nearly identical and charges more. (the 430 is a huge upgrade on the 360)
You're right, the F430 is a also a similarly minor visual upgrade from the F360 (like the 997 vs. 996), but it is WAY further developed technically (much more than 997 vs. 996).
Jul 26, 2005 6:33:34 PM
Jul 26, 2005 6:46:05 PM
Jul 26, 2005 6:48:41 PM
Jul 26, 2005 6:55:27 PM
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Carlos from Spain said:Yes but look at the price difference between the 360 and the 430... they jumped a whole model class, as much in performance/development than in price. Its not a fair comparison.
Jul 26, 2005 7:08:33 PM
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Grant said:Quote:
Carlos from Spain said:Yes but look at the price difference between the 360 and the 430... they jumped a whole model class, as much in performance/development than in price. Its not a fair comparison.
What is the price increase from base 360 to base 430? I know the 360 went up alot over the course of its reign, but I thought the increase to the 430 was around 10% or so (not a whole model class increase). I can't remember...
Jul 26, 2005 7:14:57 PM