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Jul 5, 2005 2:44:52 AM
- MMD
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Re: seat selection
with 996 you HAD to sit in the sport seats to know if they'd be comfortable OR painful to your shoulders.
With 997 seats I think that's no longer a requirement (no need to try them out to avoid painful mistake).
Just buy the adaptive sport seats if you can afford them. They're very comfortable/supportive. Nicer than standard.
Oh, if you are very tall 6'3" (?) or taller maybe you should try them both.
With 997 seats I think that's no longer a requirement (no need to try them out to avoid painful mistake).
Just buy the adaptive sport seats if you can afford them. They're very comfortable/supportive. Nicer than standard.
Oh, if you are very tall 6'3" (?) or taller maybe you should try them both.
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Le Chef said:
I'm 5' 10" and 180 lbs and neither the sports nor adaptives fit - too narrow across the shoulders. That's why you need to try both the standard and the sports seats before buying.
You might be an exception.
Porsche made sure to emphasize, in their brochures, the significant improvements to the 997 seats over the 996/986. Recall that the 996/986 sport seats were very problematic for people as far as "shoulder pinch" was concerned.
The new 997 seats (both) have remedied that problem.
Check the archives and find what I reported above represents a consensus.
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Standard or adaptive seats is one of my biggest remaining question marks. 
I'm 6'6" and 250 lbs (50 XL jacket). I recall that the taller rennteamers have recommended the adaptive. However, my dealer has tried to steer me away from the adaptive seats, citing the problems with the 996 version. He won't even order a 997 demo model with adaptive- so I'll probably have to try them at another dealership( over 100 mi away).
Good luck with your decision! Hopefully you'll have an easier time trying them both.
I'm 6'6" and 250 lbs (50 XL jacket). I recall that the taller rennteamers have recommended the adaptive. However, my dealer has tried to steer me away from the adaptive seats, citing the problems with the 996 version. He won't even order a 997 demo model with adaptive- so I'll probably have to try them at another dealership( over 100 mi away).
Good luck with your decision! Hopefully you'll have an easier time trying them both.
Jul 5, 2005 11:39:05 AM
- Avantgarde
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....and it cost alot less than both the standard electric seat and the adpative version too. 
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SVNSVN said:
However, my dealer has tried to steer me away from the adaptive seats, citing the problems with the 996 version. He won't even order a 997 demo model with adaptive- ...
Your dealer is a jerk.
I'm 6'4" @ 215 and wear a 45 L/XL jacket. The new-style adaptive sport seats I tried in a 997S were the most comfortable sport seats I've ever experienced in a Porsche. 993 and 996 sport seats were less comfortable, and offered only minimally more support, than the 993/996 standard seats.
If the 997 seats were the of the same style available in the 993/996, I wouldn't want them in a million years. However, the new style adaptive sport seats are truly wonderful. Your dealer needs to get a better education in what current options are all about
You owe it to yourself to test out the new adaptive sport seats before you make a final purchase decision.
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W8MM said:Quote:
SVNSVN said:
However, my dealer has tried to steer me away from the adaptive seats, citing the problems with the 996 version. He won't even order a 997 demo model with adaptive- ...
Your dealer is a jerk.
I'm 6'4" @ 215 and wear a 45 L/XL jacket. The new-style adaptive sport seats I tried in a 997S were the most comfortable sport seats I've ever experienced in a Porsche. 993 and 996 sport seats were less comfortable, and offered only minimally more support, than the 993/996 standard seats.
If the 997 seats were the of the same style available in the 993/996, I wouldn't want them in a million years. However, the new style adaptive sport seats are truly wonderful. Your dealer needs to get a better education in what current options are all about
You owe it to yourself to test out the new adaptive sport seats before you make a final purchase decision.
I agree. The adaptive sport seats are incredibly comfortable. What I noticed while cleaning the interior yesterday was the cushion that rests against your back and spine is a seperate cushion from the bolsters that also rest against your back. The middle cushion is seperate and moves independently. A really nice design.
Plus the adjustable lumbar support on the adaptive sport seat is a must for me. Being able to adjust the bottom and side bolsters is a big plus. Besides the comfort the adaptive sport seat looks incredible compared to the standard seat. From the front and rear. Much more sporty.
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SVNSVN said:
Thank you Mike!
I would love to have the adaptive seats! I will try them out- even if I have to drive a distance to do so.Hopefully he'll get in a 997 with that option that I can try. I'm going to ask again today.
All the best,
Richard
How tall are you Richard?
If you're 6'1" or fewer just order them and be done with it. You might have a very long drive to find a car equipped with them.
Extremely remote possibility: they are uncomfortable when you finally get them? Then go to a top notch car upholsterer and maybe have the cushioning modified a bit. (extremely remote chance you'll have to do this).
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I ordered the standard seats.. The adaptive sport seats wes a nightmare when I took the test drive car .. I seriously felt very very uncomftable and I only drove it for half a day.. I can't live with that seat.. Yeah I will be taking the car to the track as I do with most of my cars. And I know that I will miss being held in my chair but I'm also going to use this car daily and will be using it on the road more than on the track and I need something to be comftable.. By the way I noticed that the head rest is pushed very forward to .. It's a little strange and need getting use to..
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my problem is this..I ordered the car with adaptive sport. dealer missed it on the order, and order can not be changed. they can reorder with another month or more delay.tonight I'm off to the dealer to plant my butt in both.
My rationalization for the standard non electric seat is that I am the only driver.
thanks for all the opinions
perry
My rationalization for the standard non electric seat is that I am the only driver.
thanks for all the opinions
perry
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Evo_Dubai said:
I ordered the standard seats.. The adaptive sport seats wes a nightmare when I took the test drive car .. I seriously felt very very uncomftable and I only drove it for half a day.. I can't live with that seat..
Holy Cow Evo, you're freaking me out! I, like most guys, could not find a 997 equipped with Sport seats and just ordered them based on lots of research of other guys' opinions of them on teh various boards. My car is on the way and **** I hope you are wrong!
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I put my butt in both, and the fact is you can't go wrong with either seat.
the standard is much improved over the 996, but the sport offers even better seating plus the lumbar adjustment.What I can't abide is the manual adjustment levers and plastic rake adjustment.
90 + K and a no electric seats..I don"t think so ,Homer.
looks like the dealer is going to be ordering me another car..997S seal gray/full leather/chrono/bose/cd / manual seats/and a few other goodies..coming to a south jersey dealer in july...available I guess
perry
the standard is much improved over the 996, but the sport offers even better seating plus the lumbar adjustment.What I can't abide is the manual adjustment levers and plastic rake adjustment.
90 + K and a no electric seats..I don"t think so ,Homer.
looks like the dealer is going to be ordering me another car..997S seal gray/full leather/chrono/bose/cd / manual seats/and a few other goodies..coming to a south jersey dealer in july...available I guess
perry
Jul 6, 2005 1:57:39 AM
- Avantgarde
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Re: Try them both!
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peecarfan said:
looks like the dealer is going to be ordering me another car..
Aw geez, that's a shame. What's wrong, if both seats are fine for you why not get the car? Now you might as well order mid-winter to avoid a late fall delivery in NJ? (i.e. spring delivery in your area would be muuuuch nicer than looking at the car in the garage all winter)
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MMD said:Quote:
SVNSVN said:
Thank you Mike!
I would love to have the adaptive seats! I will try them out- even if I have to drive a distance to do so.Hopefully he'll get in a 997 with that option that I can try. I'm going to ask again today.
All the best,
Richard
How tall are you Richard?
If you're 6'1" or fewer just order them and be done with it. You might have a very long drive to find a car equipped with them.
Extremely remote possibility: they are uncomfortable when you finally get them? Then go to a top notch car upholsterer and maybe have the cushioning modified a bit. (extremely remote chance you'll have to do this).
MMD, I'm 6'6" 250 lbs (50 XLong jacket). Thanks for your input!
Good luck!I called my dealer today and he said he would call and find a dealership with a 997 with the adaptive sport seats for me to try. He's a nice guy, very helpful too. He was basing his opinion on the 996 sport seats- he's 6'2" and they weren't comfy for him(pinched his shoulder blades).
I'm pretty sure I'll select the adaptive-if they are fine for Mike and Peter, then they should work for me too. I just want to make absolutely sure they fit me (everyone is shaped differently).
Stradale and porsche nut, I agree- the adaptive/sport seats do fit the car better IMO (especially the Cab
). Stradale, thank you for the description of the adaptive seats!
Perry,
So did you decide on the adaptive sport, or sport?
Good luck!
Richard
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<< What's wrong, if both seats are fine for you why not get the car? Now you might as well order mid-winter to avoid a late fall delivery in NJ>>
I couldn't justify spending the $$ for the car without electric seats. I can accept manual adjustment on my mini, and frankly the controls are less conspicuous on the mini. I 'm spending 3,300 for full leather and another 1,300 for the center console in leather, and the manual seat would have bothered me forever.
also, the electric offers a tilt feature that is absent on the manual adjustment
as it came down today, due to their screw up, and it sounds like a bit of begging, the dealer was granted another allocation, with supposedly a july build, and they re ordered the car
after my sit down in both, last night, I opted for the standard seat/ w electric adjustments. I spent the saved money on the tire pressure monitoring option.
Not that I would have hated the sport, but they did catch me in my shoulder blades. the lumbar would have been nice, but the standard was just more comfortable for me.
as any car dealer will tell you, there is an ass for every seat
I couldn't justify spending the $$ for the car without electric seats. I can accept manual adjustment on my mini, and frankly the controls are less conspicuous on the mini. I 'm spending 3,300 for full leather and another 1,300 for the center console in leather, and the manual seat would have bothered me forever.
also, the electric offers a tilt feature that is absent on the manual adjustment
as it came down today, due to their screw up, and it sounds like a bit of begging, the dealer was granted another allocation, with supposedly a july build, and they re ordered the car
after my sit down in both, last night, I opted for the standard seat/ w electric adjustments. I spent the saved money on the tire pressure monitoring option.
Not that I would have hated the sport, but they did catch me in my shoulder blades. the lumbar would have been nice, but the standard was just more comfortable for me.
as any car dealer will tell you, there is an ass for every seat
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