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Very enjoyable article, felt like a conversation being had with a friend over a cup of coffee. I hope my irrational AM bias isn't clouding my views, but it does seem the front runner. Of course the GTC4 is very much loved by everyone who owns one, so I'm tempted to throw my vote into that box.
Sorry for being that guy, but you have a typo on the first paragraph of the GTC4 analysis. 'has' instead of 'was'.
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Enmanuel:Very enjoyable article, felt like a conversation being had with a friend over a cup of coffee. I hope my irrational AM bias isn't clouding my views, but it does seem the front runner. Of course the GTC4 is very much loved by everyone who owns one, so I'm tempted to throw my vote into that box.
Sorry for being that guy, but you have a typo on the first paragraph of the GTC4 analysis. 'has' instead of 'was'.
Got it, thanks.
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I had to pleasure to drive quite extensively a F12 , 812 and a Vanquish S (S is important) - only a test-drive with a FF so I cannot fully argue except that it felt way to big for my taste.
Best car hands down is the 812 with the rear axle being far superior to the F12. The F12 is surely a handful to drive compared to the 812 which is much more composed - but if you like to drive the more "scary" car a F12 is hard to beat. The 812 is a better set up and gives much more confidence to floor it earlier than in a F12. The F12 bites - it is nothing for the faint hearted.
The vanquish S with the latest e gear is surely a fantastic proposal. Not only do I like the cockpit much better than a new DBS - the sound of the S is just unbelievable. I was shocked how loud it is. Not Ferrari shriek but a clear AM Sound. It does not go around corners like a Ferrari but price value in the used market is fantastic. I would highly recommend to drive a S just for fun once to compare.
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Go with your heart. I also think your choice is made..
But I would change the F12 for the 812, specially taking into account that this car would be for nice week end trips . F12 does not seem like a keeper to any of it's owners.
For an even more relaxed drive, cheaper, enjoying to open top, maybe the AM would be a nice change.
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BjoernB:I had to pleasure to drive quite extensively a F12 , 812 and a Vanquish S (S is important) - only a test-drive with a FF so I cannot fully argue except that it felt way to big for my taste.
Best car hands down is the 812 with the rear axle being far superior to the F12. The F12 is surely a handful to drive compared to the 812 which is much more composed - but if you like to drive the more "scary" car a F12 is hard to beat. The 812 is a better set up and gives much more confidence to floor it earlier than in a F12. The F12 bites - it is nothing for the faint hearted.
The vanquish S with the latest e gear is surely a fantastic proposal. Not only do I like the cockpit much better than a new DBS - the sound of the S is just unbelievable. I was shocked how loud it is. Not Ferrari shriek but a clear AM Sound. It does not go around corners like a Ferrari but price value in the used market is fantastic. I would highly recommend to drive a S just for fun once to compare.
Appreciate the advice on the Vanquish S. They really are good value right now and likely to become even better value later this year as AML is sitting on an inventory mountain again. On the F12, it being a bit of a handful is actually a positive selling point personally. Im used to fairly raw cars and find them highly engaging to drive.
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My colleague had the Lusso, that was a fantastic car. Loved the looks of it, performed faultlessly as well, was really comfy on long distance.
The 812, aside from the issues we had, I feel is too nervous to be a GT, too quick for the road, and too big to be a sports car. I didn't know when or where to use it. Except on a trip to Italy to visit some vineyards, there and then, it was brilliant.
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Problem with the FF/Lusso is that it can only do 80% of what a SUV/CUV does, namely carrying people and/or carry stuff.
But by the same token, it will do 80% of what an F12 can do but much more practical.
When I had both in the garage, I take the FF out over the F12 most of the time. In my mind it's a bigger and more comfortable version of the 911 turbo S.
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Porker:My colleague had the Lusso, that was a fantastic car. Loved the looks of it, performed faultlessly as well, was really comfy on long distance.
The 812, aside from the issues we had, I feel is too nervous to be a GT, too quick for the road, and too big to be a sports car. I didn't know when or where to use it. Except on a trip to Italy to visit some vineyards, there and then, it was brilliant.
but stunningly gorgeous, but yes too nervous to be useful hammer down on bad two lane which is the basis of my high speed runs.
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