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    Re: Gordon Murray - T.50

    I quite like the looks of it.  And it's not a "beady eyed" or "slit eyed" look from the front.  I think the "too big" headlights are part of its charm.


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    Mike

    918 Spyder + 992 GT3 Touring + Taycan Turbo + Tesla Roadster 1.5 & Model S P100D AP2 + BMWs (Z8 + 3.0 CSi) + Bentley Arnage T


    Re: Gordon Murray - T.50

    Gordon Murray T.33 Spider will be unveiled on 4 April 2023...  E0F26BDD-E91B-4EF4-964B-7C4204B9E420.gif

    Gordon Murray T33 Spider - 4 April 2023.jpg

    "...designed and engineered to be the world’s most engaging V12-powered open supercar"

    Link:  https://www.gordonmurrayautomotive.com/

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    Re: Gordon Murray - T.50

    crayphile:

    A lot of T50 "fan" boys here wink. I get it - small, light, manual, glorious engine . However , it remains unforgivably hideous.

    My position has not changed. A gargoyle amongst cars in this bracket.


    Re: Gordon Murray - T.50

    Carlos from Spain:

    I know I may get flamed for saying this but I love it! even it's looks, because it's form follows function taken to the extreme in an irreverent way, it's looks is a flick of the middle finger of a 100% driver focused concept car to the flamboyant poseur supercars of nowadays, from the seating position to the way it can take up a rough narrow road and still deliver enjoyment, and that engine is just orgasmic in a world of cheap HP turbocharged one dimensional engines. Many will not agree but to me this car is royalty among the supercars, with the exception of the Aston valkyrie. 

    +0.99, I could still do without the fan indecision 


    Re: Gordon Murray - T.50

    Doesn't T.33 look better than the T.50?

     


    Re: Gordon Murray - T.50

    Gordon Murray T.33 Spider revealed on Harry's Garage...  E0F26BDD-E91B-4EF4-964B-7C4204B9E420.gif

    Video Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cltRgwrYur0

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    Re: Gordon Murray - T.50

    Gordon Murray T.33 Spider on The Late Brake Show...  E0F26BDD-E91B-4EF4-964B-7C4204B9E420.gif

    Video Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpN4OLb8XtA

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    Re: Gordon Murray - T.50

    Gordon Murray T.33 Spider on Kidd In A Sweet Shop...  E0F26BDD-E91B-4EF4-964B-7C4204B9E420.gif

    Video Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zAzGr0ewt4

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    Re: Gordon Murray - T.50

    Gordon Murray T.33 Spider on Carwow...  E0F26BDD-E91B-4EF4-964B-7C4204B9E420.gif

    Video Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1kXclXVuCE

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    Re: Gordon Murray - T.50

    Gordon Murray T.33 Spider on Top Gear magazine...  E0F26BDD-E91B-4EF4-964B-7C4204B9E420.gif

    Video Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mexed_19_WA

    Smiley


    Re: Gordon Murray - T.50

    Gordon Murray T.33 Spider official reveal with Gordon Murray and Dario Franchitti...  E0F26BDD-E91B-4EF4-964B-7C4204B9E420.gif

    Video Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8xfjdqt88M

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    Re: Gordon Murray - T.50

    Gordon Murray T.33 Spider walk around by Dario Franchitti...  E0F26BDD-E91B-4EF4-964B-7C4204B9E420.gif

    Video Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fa2OKHVJ24

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    Re: Gordon Murray - T.50

    Love it


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    Re: Gordon Murray - T.50

     

     

    PRESS RELEASE

    Embargoed to: 04/04/2023, 17.00 GMT

    INTRODUCING THE GORDON MURRAY AUTOMOTIVE T.33 SPIDER

     

    • The T.33 Spider: Gordon Murray Automotive’s first V12 Spider supercar

    • Beautiful, timeless design: Two removable roof panels and a rear drop glass deliver an authentic Spider driving experience with an unmistakable soundtrack 

    • Design vision: In addition to all-new surfacing from the A-pillar rearwards, the Spider’s fixed rear section of roof provides rollover protection, optimises stiffness and is integral to the body design

    • Pure driving experience: Naturally-aspirated 617 PS Cosworth GMA.2 V12, manual transmission, rear-wheel drive and lightweight construction deliver unrivalled responsiveness and driver involvement

    • A truly usable supercar: The carbon composite roof panels can be stowed in the 115 litre front luggage compartment, with twin side lockers providing an additional 180 litres of storage space

    • Only 100 production cars will be made: Like all GMA road cars, production of T.33 Spider will be strictly limited to 100

    • Curated by design: T.33 Spider exterior and interior options have been curated by the Design team into four themes – including one with a palette inspired by Gordon Murray’s love for a tropical shirt

    • Defined by the seven GMA core principles: Driving Perfection, Lightweight, Engineering Art, Premium Brand, aReturn to Beauty, Exclusivity and a personalised Customer Journey

    • World-class craftsmanship: T.33 Spider is shaped around iStream® Ultralight carbon fibre monocoque technology and will be hand-built alongside T.33 at GMA’s new bespoke facility at Windlesham in the UK

    • T.33 Spider assets are available to download from: https://we.tl/t-vrBoPX8Nfm

     

    Tuesday, 04 April, 17:00 GMT: The T.33 Spider from Gordon Murray Automotive combines the beautiful, timeless design of the T.33 with an even more immersive and engaging driving experience. With two removable roof panels, a deployable rear window and the naturally-aspirated Cosworth GMA.2 V12 behind the cabin, there is no other supercar like it.

     

    Developed in parallel with the T.33 and sharing the same Ultralight carbon fibre monocoque construction, the T.33 Spider has been meticulously engineered to deliver the exceptional torsional stiffness needed for outstanding ride, handling and agility without adding unnecessary weight. In achieving all these targets, and by adhering to GMA’s seven core principles, the T.33 Spider sets a new benchmark for open supercars.

     

    Professor Gordon Murray CBE said “When drawing a car I imagine what it's going to feel like to sit in, and how it will feel to drive. So from the first sketch I knew that, with its open cockpit and the incredible Cosworth GMA.2V12 engine right behind you, the T.33 Spider would deliver a truly involving driving experience that’s quite unlike anything else. And while it’s still a mid-engine supercar I wouldn’t accept any compromise on usability: this is why the T.33 Spider is unique in the supercar sector in delivering both onboard roof storage and a 295 litre luggage capacity”.

     

    As proven by the T.50 and T.33, GMA is unlike any other car manufacturer as it designs and engineers its supercars in its own unique way. It does not follow trends and does not seek headline performance figures; not now, nor in the future. Instead, the focus is on taking the purity of the original vision through to production, without compromise. Every single element of each car is designed and engineered according to the brand’s founding seven principles: Driving Perfection, Lightweight, Engineering Art, Premium Brand, A Return to Beauty, Exclusivity and a personalised Customer Journey.

     

    Phil Lee, Gordon Murray Group CEO, said: “The arrival of the T.33 Spider sees Gordon Murray Automotive firmly established as a global OEM. Customer deliveries of our halo T.50 model – the world’s most driver centric supercar – are due imminently, and the track-only T.50s will be in production later this year.

     

    In addition, by the end of the year our production team will have moved into our new bespoke global headquarters at Highams Park, Windlesham, where both the T.33 and the incredible new T.33 Spider will be lovingly hand-built.

     

    I am incredibly proud of the fact that, less than three years since the reveal of T.50, Gordon Murray Automotive is a global OEM with an outstanding portfolio of four supercars: T.50, T.50s, T.33 and now T.33 Spider.”

     

     

    Exterior Design

    Spider: an evocative name perfectly suited to the breath-taking, timeless T.33. Like its coupe stablemate, T.33 Spider is the very embodiment of GMA’s Return to Beauty ethos, but with looks which promise an even more involving driving experience. Inspired by iconic designs from the 1960s but with the perfect proportions and flowing surfaces crafted from carbon fibre and executed with a purity and relentless attention to detail, this is a supercar like no other. To deliver the design vision defined by the very first sketches, every surface from the A-pillar backwards is unique to the T.33 Spider, yet it clearly shares its DNA with the T.33.

     

    Gordon Murray said “From the very beginning I knew that one of the biggest challenges in designing the T.33 Spider would be keeping the purity, balance and overall beauty of the T.33. That’s why I sketched both versions at the same time to make sure that the proportions would work”.

     

    The fixed section of the roof features elegant buttresses which blend harmoniously into the rear deck, behind which are louvres which further aid engine cooling. The ram induction airbox, mounted directly to the engine itself and a hallmark feature of the T.33, becomes even more distinctive on the Spider, especially when the roof panels are removed.

     

    Made from lightweight carbon composite, the panels can be specified in a range of colours. To enhance usability, they can be stowed neatly in the front luggage compartment when not in use. The rear glass drops behind the rear bulkhead at the press of a switch – roof on or off – to complete the immersive Spider experience.

     

    Seamlessly integrated into the rear haunches and opened with a button concealed under the dihedral doors, are two 90-litre stowage compartments. The mechanisms through which these doors and stowage compartments open are works of engineering art and design ingenuity – their seamless operation being vital to ensure that T.33 Spider is a truly usable supercar.

     

    Interior Design

    Simple, elegant, analogue: the T.33’s interior embodies these defining qualities and delivers a truly driver-focused environment. Befitting a supercar, the focal point of the instrument cluster is the 120mm, floodlit and defiantly analogue centrally-mounted rev counter. Calibrated to 11,100 rpm it clearly signals the Cosworth GMA V12’s performance potential. Either side are secondary displays for climate control and infotainment, the latter featuring wireless Apple CarPlay and Android Auto connectivity.

     

    All of the main controls are beautifully tactile, with the carbon fibre steering wheel trimmed in leather and the perfectly-weighted pedals, gear shift lever and switchgear machined from aluminium alloy. The lightweight, race-inspired carbon fibre seats are trimmed in a combination of leather and Alcantara. As part of the customer experience, each car is perfectly tailored to its owner.

     

    One of the unique interior features distinguishing the T.33 Spider from the coupe is that the rear bulkhead trim between the two seats is now body coloured. With the roof panels removed and rear glass down, this subtly enhances the feeling of openness through the exterior colour flowing into the cabin.

     

    Aerodynamics

    Leveraging all the experience accrued from a career designing ground-effect racing cars, Gordon Murray and his team developed the T.33 Spider’s exceptional aerodynamics without resorting to the ostentatious ducts, skirts and splitters that are typically used in other supercars. Such devices would compromise the timeless design so instead, first principles were used to develop the T.33 Spider’s Passive Boundary Layer Control (PBLC) system. Introduced on T.33, PBLC has been further refined for the Spider. A ground-effect inlet at the front of the car directs low pressure air underneath the floor, which is then fed into a rear diffuser with a boundary layer removal duct. In combination with the deployable active rear spoiler, PBLC delivers the ideal balance of low drag, high-downforce and superb high-speed stability, with or without the roof panels in place.

     

    The fixed rear section of the roof, which provides rollover protection, is an integral part of the body design to optimise stiffness while delivering the design vision. Its form is carefully optimised to minimise drag and buffeting when the panels are not fitted, this faired-in design being more streamlined than the twin ‘humps’ behind the seats that are typical of a speedster body style.

     

    Body structure

    The T.33 Spider is shaped around Gordon Murray Technologies’ iStream® Ultralight carbon monocoque technology. Comprising carbon fibre composite panels bonded to extruded aluminium tubing triangulated at precision die-cast aluminium nodes, this delivers a body structure which provides the optimal balance of high stiffness, light weight, and exceptional levels of safety and occupant protection.

     

    Developed in parallel with the coupe, the T.33 programme was Spider-led, which meant that all torsional rigidity targets were set for the Spider body structure. This ensured no compromises to structural integrity and avoided the weight increases which typically arise from the traditional approach of adding reinforcements and bracing. 

     

    As a result, and a consequence of GMA’s obsessive focus on weight reduction – down to single grams from every component – the T.33 Spider has a target dry weight of 1,108 kg, just 18 kg more than the coupe, and will deliver the same superlative driving experience.

     

    The precision inherent to iStream® also delivers exceptionally precise manufacturing tolerances. Taking full advantage of this enabled the engineering team to optimally position everything within the car much closer than would be possible with many traditional body construction methods. This degree of packaging efficiency contributes to the car’s compact footprint and remarkably low weight.

     

    Chassis and Suspension

    As befits two cars designed and developed in parallel, the T.33 Spider is engineered to meet the same demanding targets for ride, handling and steering as the T.33. The inherently light, stiff, composite body structure delivers the ideal starting point for world-class vehicle dynamics, thanks to its outstanding torsional rigidity and local stiffness around the chassis mounting points. Like the coupe, T.33 Spider features all-round double wishbone suspension, made from lightweight aluminium. The high pressure monotube dampers are of coilover design and are also made from aluminium. GMA’s vehicle dynamics team have purposefully chosen not to offer adaptive damping: in keeping with the principle of driving perfection, the bump and rebound rates have been meticulously calibrated to deliver the ideal ride and handling balance for the car.

     

    Following motorsport practice, the powertrain of the T.33 Spider is semi-structural, with the rear suspension mounted directly to the transmission casing. To maximise the weight reduction and vehicle dynamics benefits this brings without undue noise, vibration and harshness being transmitted into the cabin, the system features GMA’s Inclined Axis Shear Mounting (IASM). The IASM system uses flexible mountings to deliver exactly the right amount of isolation required for refinement while at the same time enabling precise handling.

     

    To ensure that the T.33 Spider responds directly to every input the driver makes at the wheel, no matter how small, GMA has developed an electrohydraulic steering system. Honed over countless iterations to deliver unrivalled levels of feel, weight and feedback, it uses an on-demand electric pump to provide the power assistance. This system delivers the purity of traditional hydraulic steering but with greater energy efficiency due to the removal of the parasitic losses from an engine-driven pump.

     

    Ensuring the delivery of fade-resistant deceleration under all driving conditions, a Carbon Ceramic Matrix (CCM) braking system has been developed specifically for T.33 and T.33 Spider. Delivering an ideal combination of high thermal resistance, low unsprung mass and reduced wear, it features 370 mm x 34 mm discs and six-piston monobloc calipers on the front axle and 340 mm x 34 mm discs with four-piston monobloc calipers at the rear. In combination with the downforce provided by the car’s cutting-edge aerodynamics, the CCM brakes deliver stopping power commensurate with the Cosworth GMA.2 V12’s exceptional performance.

     

    To deliver the traction and steering response demanded from the rear-wheel drive configuration, together with the minimum possible mass, the T.33 Spider, like the coupe, uses an asymmetric wheel and tyre specification. The front and rear axles feature lightweight, forged aluminium 19-inch and 20-inch wheels respectively, together with 235/35 ZR19 and 295/30 ZR20 Michelin Pilot Sport 4 S tyres.

     

    All the T.33 Spider’s vehicle dynamics attributes are engineered around these tyres, which are designed to deliver a combination of excellent wet and dry performance on the road as well as occasional track use. And, compared to fully bespoke tyres, they offer the additional advantage of being readily available – when required, customers will not have to endure long lead-times for them to be delivered to their chosen service centre.

     

    Engine and Transmission

    Just like its coupe stablemate, the heart of the T.33 Spider is the exemplary Cosworth GMA.2 V12. This extraordinary all-aluminium powerplant is designed according to motorsport principles in partnership with Cosworth to deliver GMA’s exacting brief: lightest, highest specific output, highest revving, fastest response.

     

    Addressing the fundamentals of high-performance engine design, the dry-sump, 3.9-litre unit features a 65-degree cylinder bank angle for optimum packaging within the monocoque, and contributing to the car’s low centre of gravity. Obsessively weight-optimised, the exquisite exhaust manifolds are crafted from inconel – lightweight and capable of withstanding extremes of temperature. 

     

    Foregoing turbocharging for the compromises this imposes in throttle response and to aural quality, the GMA.2 is naturally-aspirated, fed via the ram air scoop and four throttle bodies, together with two fuel injectors per cylinder. Together with the inherently low inertia afforded by the use of titanium for critical components such as the connecting rods, this combination delivers unrivalled responsiveness: 75 per cent of the 451 Nm maximum rated torque is available from only 2,500 rpm, while 90 per cent is maintained from 4,500-10,500  rpm. Maximum power of 617 PS is delivered at 10,250 rpm, with the engine electronically-limited to an astonishing 11,100 rpm, at which point the driver is rewarded with an unmistakable 12-cylinder crescendo before shifting to the next gear. The complete engine weighs just 178 kg: this is the world’s lightest road car V12 engine.

     

    In place of the signature orange cam covers used on the GMA V12 in the T.50, those on T.33 Spider, like the T.33, are finished in yellow – a colour inspired by the distinctive paintwork of the Gordon Murray-designed 1972 Duckhams Ford LM race car.

     

    In response to overwhelming customer demand for the manual gearbox on the T.33 coupe, the Spider is offered exclusively with this transmission. Developed with world-renowned motorsport supplier Xtrac, this six-speed unit – like the V12 it is matched to – is designed to be as mass-efficient as possible. At only 82 kg, there is no lighter supercar transmission, and it delivers the quick, smooth, precision shifts that enthusiasts demand and expect.

     

    The powertrain is completed by a multi-plate clutch which delivers the required torque capacity with minimal inertia, and a mechanical limited-slip differential. Compared with electronically-controlled units, this design ensures that the driver has ultimate control over the vehicle’s responses and handling balance at all times.

     

    Customer experience

    The T.33 Spider, like the T.33, will have EU and Federal type approval. Every one of the 100 production examples will be lovingly hand-built at Highams Park, GMA’s all-new bespoke headquarters at Windlesham in the UK, and each will be tailored to its customer’s specific requirements.

     

    Exterior colours have been curated into four themes by the Design team. These four themes have been inspired by, respectively, GMA’s core values of Return to Beauty and Engineering Art, the Murray Atholl tartan – and then a final palette acknowledging Gordon’s love for a tropical shirt. Each specific exterior colour is matched to a Design team recommended interior specification – though customers are free to choose whatever they wish. Providing almost endless scope for personalisation, customers may select different colours for the roof panels and rear deck. In addition to the ‘Design’ range of available exterior colours, customers can also option to specify a bespoke paint made to special order. 

     

    Continuing a customer experience second-to-none, GMA has ensured that owning a T.33 Spider will be as enjoyable as driving one. Headed by a Global Aftersales team, there are five Global Service Centres in select locations around the world: USA (East and West coasts), UK, Japan and Abu Dhabi. All are staffed by expert technicians trained by GMA to service, maintain and repair these unique cars. The five Global Service Centres are supplemented by a network of 14 Service Support Centres, which are also staffed by expert technicians trained by GMA. When a customer takes their car to a specified Service Support Centre, GMA will either support the Service Support Centre or send its technicians to that centre to carry out whatever work is required on the car to the same exacting standards applied when it was hand-built at Windlesham.

     

    These Service Support Centre locations are: Germany, Spain, Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, Kingdom of Bahrain, Hong Kong, Singapore, Taiwan, Australia with a further six in key states of America. GMA’s network development will continue in line with its customer expectations.

     

     

    [Ends]

     

    Contacts

    Media 

    For further information, email: media@gordonmurrayautomotive.com

     

    Sales contact

    For sales enquires, email: cars@gordonmurrayautomotive.com

     

    Social media

    Instagram: gordonmurrayautomotive | Facebook: @gordonmurrayautomotive

    Twitter: @PlanetGMA | YouTube

    Notes to Editors

     

    Gordon Murray Group

    The UK-based Gordon Murray Group comprises Gordon Murray Automotive and Gordon Murray Technologies.

     

    Gordon Murray Automotive is a UK-based global luxury brand dedicated to creating and manufacturing the world’s greatest driving cars. These ultra-exclusive cars – the T.50, T.50s, T.33 and T.33 Spider – are engineered and designed without compromise to provide unrivalled driving experiences and driver-centric connection. 

     

    Gordon Murray Automotive adheres to seven core brand principles in all its products: Driving Perfection, Lightweight, Engineering Art, Premium brand, A Return to Beauty, Exclusivity and The Customer Journey.

     

    Gordon Murray Technologies, incorporating Gordon Murray Design and Gordon Murray Electronics, serves global automotive companies for every aspect of vehicle development, design and manufacturing.

     

    Gordon Murray Technologies also applies seven core brand principles to any project: Driving perfection, Performance through light-weighting, Engineering excellence, Sustainable mobility, Disruptive technologies, Low energy solutions and Innovation by design.

     

    Gordon Murray Automotive – the supercars

    T.50: The world’s most driver-centric supercar. Central driving position, three seats. Active and fan-assisted aerodynamics. 3.9-litre mid-mounted Cosworth GMA V12 engine producing 670 PS and capable of 12,100 rpm. Six-speed manual gearbox. 997kg dry weight. Limited production run of 100.

     

    For full press release, technical specifications, imagery and films, please download the press kit

     

    T.50s: The track-only version of the T.50. Central driving position, three seats. 3.9-litre mid-mounted Cosworth GMA.S V12 engine producing 772 PS and capable of 12,100 rpm. Instantaneous Gearshift six-speed paddle shift gearbox. Active and fan-assisted aerodynamics. 890kg dry weight. Limited production run of 25.

     

    For full press release, technical specifications, imagery and films, please download the press kit

     

    T.33: The world’s ultimate two-seater V12 coupe supercar. Full EU and Federal homologation. Passive Boundary Layer Control aerodynamics. 3.9-litre mid-mounted Cosworth GMA.2 V12 engine producing 617 PS and capable of 11,100 rpm. Six-speed manual, or six-speed paddle-shift gearbox. 1,090 kg dry weight. Limited production run of 100.

     

    For full press release, technical specifications, imagery and films, please download the press kit

     

     

    About Professor Gordon Murray, CBE – Executive Chairman, Gordon Murray Group

    Having spent 20 years as Technical Director to two Formula One teams from 1969-1990, Gordon Murray has a wealth of technical, design and engineering experience. At Brabham he was instrumental in two world championship wins (1981 and 1983) before three consecutive championship wins with McLaren Racing (1988, 1989 and 1990). In 1990 – after 50 Grand Prix wins – Gordon moved away from Formula One to concentrate on establishing a new company for the group, McLaren Cars Limited.

     

    His first project there, the F1 road car, is still regarded as one of the world’s best-engineered cars. A racing version won two world sports car championships and the Le Mans 24-hour race in 1995. McLaren Cars then completed several other successful projects culminating in the Mercedes-Benz SLR McLaren.

     

    Gordon left McLaren in 2005 to set up a Gordon Murray Design Ltd (in 2007), of which he is Executive Chairman. The innovative British company is a world leader in automotive design and reverses the current industry trend for sub-contracting by having a complete in-house capability for design, prototyping, and development.

     

    In 2017, Gordon Murray Design celebrated the company’s 10-year anniversary along with that of the iStream® manufacturing process at a special event, named ‘One Formula’. Gordon also marked the 25th production anniversary of the McLaren F1 road car, and his 50th year of design and engineering.

     

    In May 2019, Professor Murray was made a Commander of the British Empire (CBE) by the Duke of Cambridge, Prince William, in recognition of his contributions to the motorsport and automotive sectors over the past 50 years.

     

    About Phillip Lee – CEO, Gordon Murray Group

    Phillip Lee qualified as a Chartered Accountant and worked for PwC (PricewaterhouseCoopers) for four years. After qualifying, he moved into industry and has remained in manufacturing throughout his career.

     

    Phillip has worked in the automotive industry for more than 20 years. In 2004, Phillip joined Plastic Omnium and worked in director positions in China, Europe, USA and South America. In all the roles, his greatest achievement was restructuring and managing change with a major focus on delivering performance.

     

    In 2015, Phillip returned to the UK and joined the Geely Group of Companies. The first project was with the London Taxi Company, where he was responsible for the next TX5 vehicle along with a new plant and onboarding of a brand-new team. 

     

    2017 saw a move to Group Lotus and Phillip was responsible for overseeing the acquisition of Lotus and subsequently went on to various roles including CFO and Interim CEO roles. The company’s projects, including Evija, Emira and Electra were all developed under the directorship of Phillip and are the key products in the transformation of Lotus into a volume production supplier of premium vehicles.

     

    In 2020, Phillip joined the Gordon Murray Group and has been responsible for delivering the T.50, the growth of the group and development of the team. Since joining, the company has gone from strength to strength and has sold out of three separate vehicles, launched two distinct EV platforms to external customers, and has expanded Gordon Murray Electronics to a business capable of delivering entire vehicles and beyond.

     

    In April 2022, Phillip became the CEO of Gordon Murray Group and now leads the group into the next chapter of development and growth.

     


    Re: Gordon Murray - T.50

    When do we expect official T.50 road tests and driving impressions ?   Can't be long now.


    Re: Gordon Murray - T.50

    Interesting that the T.33 press release describes electro-hydraulic power steering (like McLaren), but in the videos Gordon describes electric steering that turns off above parking speeds.

    I’d love one of these cars, especially the forthcoming more focused T.33 variant (sounds like the GT3 of GMA).


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    Re: Gordon Murray - T.50

    Porker:

    Love it

    Yep. Smiley The Spider is very nice. If I'd have the money, this would be the car I would get with manual. Not interested in any other car with manual. Price is not that bad in my opinion but of course...I cannot afford it. SmileySmiley


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    Re: Gordon Murray - T.50

    RC:
    Porker:

    Love it

    Yep. Smiley The Spider is very nice. If I'd have the money, this would be the car I would get with manual. Not interested in any other car with manual. Price is not that bad in my opinion but of course...I cannot afford it. SmileySmiley

    I think it’s funny that some people think the GT3’s (or GT4 RS’s) 9,000 rpm redline is too high to make it suitable for Manual, but GMA proves that it works great with 3,100 rpm more (or 2,100 rpm more in T.33).  So happy this thing exists, though I will likely never get to sample one.


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    22 GT3 Manual, 73 Carrera RS 2.9L Twin-Plug MFI Carbon Fiber replica. Former: 18 GT3 Manual, 16 Cayman GT4, 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550, 79 635CSi, 06 EVO9 with track mods


    Re: Gordon Murray - T.50

    My only gripe with the T.33 (spyder and coupe) is that sharp smile corner on the front intake. If that was rounded out to create a big oval, the car would really be perfect. 

     


    Re: Gordon Murray - T.50

    Gordon Murray T.33 Spider comments by Gordon Murray...  E0F26BDD-E91B-4EF4-964B-7C4204B9E420.gif

    Video Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FfTdNL5W4g

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    A modern knockoff CGT but at five time the price. On the plus side, it's about 600 pounds lighter.


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    If you were given a new chance to buy a CGT, would you take it? indecision
    I missed my chance some 20 years ago and have been regretting it this long. 
    T.33 Spider is a beautiful car. The more I look at it the more everything makes sense. 
    I thought the smiling gape was wrong too but then if you add the license plate to it I think it will be complete. 
    If you were to compare it to CGT, this has two more cylinders and revs 3000 rpm more and much lighter too. About the weight of a Miata MX-5. More of an F50 renewal. 


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    This Spider is a very tempting proposition. The only thing I own with a manual transmission and a redline like that is my MV Agusta...


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    nberry:

    A modern knockoff CGT but at five time the price. On the plus side, it's about 600 pounds lighter.

    And revs 4,000 rpm higher Smiley  Also carries a third person and lots more luggage.  BTW, a CGT these days is not 5 times cheaper (and even if it didn't appreciate, you'd have to consider the 20 years of inflation).  BTW, if it's a knockoff of anything, it's the original McLaren F1 (intentionally, by its original designer).  McLaren attempted its own commemoration but seems to have missed the mark with the Speedtail (in my estimation).


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    mcdelaug:

    This Spider is a very tempting proposition. The only thing I own with a manual transmission and a redline like that is my MV Agusta...

    Indeed. I really like it. I cannot afford it. Would get one in a heartbeat if I could. Smiley

    I seem to have a weird taste in cars though, so don't take my word for it. Smiley Smiley


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    mcdelaug:

    This Spider is a very tempting proposition. The only thing I own with a manual transmission and a redline like that is my MV Agusta...

    Such beautiful machines, the Superveloce is just art on wheels. 


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    Jean:

    If you were given a new chance to buy a CGT, would you take it? indecision
    I missed my chance some 20 years ago and have been regretting it this long. 
    T.33 Spider is a beautiful car. The more I look at it the more everything makes sense. 
    I thought the smiling gape was wrong too but then if you add the license plate to it I think it will be complete. 
    If you were to compare it to CGT, this has two more cylinders and revs 3000 rpm more and much lighter too. About the weight of a Miata MX-5. More of an F50 renewal. 

    I walked away from a new black CGT. It was on the showroom floor. This was at a time when Porsche was having difficulty selling the car. My sales person called indicating they were willing to negotiate for the sale of the car. With checkbook in hand I went to the dealership intent on buying.

    This particular car had black exterior and black interior. Though I knew this before hand, viewing it in person didn’t change my mind that I would like it. Additionally, having driven it I knew it was a handful and though a lot have fun to drive, my skills were not up to managing the car on a consistent bases in order to enjoy the car. 
     

    With all that said, I do regret not buying it. Not only has it significantly appreciated in value but its styling by today’s standards are up to date. And let’s not forget the sound of the engine. It’s sends chills up your spine. Smiley

     


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    Enmanuel:
    mcdelaug:

    This Spider is a very tempting proposition. The only thing I own with a manual transmission and a redline like that is my MV Agusta...

    Such beautiful machines, the Superveloce is just art on wheels. 


    994E1CB2-A8A5-4F65-BF91-F05A56425996.jpegAs good as it looks, the exhaust sound is better, and something no car I’ve encountered can produce. The 800cc triple has inherent first and second order balance just like a straight 6 or V12. So it has this sweet set of harmonics that you hear, but it’s all underlying this furious metallic rasp as you reach 13.5K rpm. This Arrow race exhaust that came with this Serie Oro has no GPFs or other obstruction limiting the glorious sound it makes.

     


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    nberry:
    Jean:

    If you were given a new chance to buy a CGT, would you take it? indecision
    I missed my chance some 20 years ago and have been regretting it this long. 
    T.33 Spider is a beautiful car. The more I look at it the more everything makes sense. 
    I thought the smiling gape was wrong too but then if you add the license plate to it I think it will be complete. 
    If you were to compare it to CGT, this has two more cylinders and revs 3000 rpm more and much lighter too. About the weight of a Miata MX-5. More of an F50 renewal. 

    I walked away from a new black CGT. It was on the showroom floor. This was at a time when Porsche was having difficulty selling the car. My sales person called indicating they were willing to negotiate for the sale of the car. With checkbook in hand I went to the dealership intent on buying.

    This particular car had black exterior and black interior. Though I knew this before hand, viewing it in person didn’t change my mind that I would like it. Additionally, having driven it I knew it was a handful and though a lot have fun to drive, my skills were not up to managing the car on a consistent bases in order to enjoy the car. 
     

    With all that said, I do regret not buying it. Not only has it significantly appreciated in value but its styling by today’s standards are up to date. And let’s not forget the sound of the engine. It’s sends chills up your spine. Smiley

     

    Nick I don’t think you’ve shared this story before, the nostalgia mixed with a little regret really came through!

    I was in cardiology fellowship when I bought my 987S. It had a recurring problem where it would send various trouble codes to the computer that my Houston dealer struggled to diagnose and repair. This meant a lot of trips to the dealer, where they had a CGT in GT silver with a Terracotta interior on the floor. The car sat there for over a year, and I fell in love with a little more every time I saw it. But I’m too responsible, and prioritized my mortgage, student loans, investing etc over a CGT purchase. The silver lining is I’m having my 30th anniversary this year. That probably wouldn’t have happened if I bought the CGT!


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    It's nice to see fellow Serie Oro here.  Mine is no. 123/300. indecision


     
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