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    Re: 991.2 GT3 Touring on tour

    blueflame:

    Some pics from the RetroClassic fair at Stuttgart.

    I was looking for a 964/993 for a good friend…great selection of F-models and 997, but nothing for my friend.

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    Current supply of good quality 964/993 have dried up. Well 993s were to be expected but buyers have migrated to 964 also. 

    One reason I bought the 996. And lucky I got into the 964 early enough. If I find a 993, either the price or the quality isn't good enough. 

    997 is attractive to a lot of buyers as it's smaller compared to the 991s and 992s. But there are A LOT of supply for the 997s. 

     

     

     


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    RetroClassic looks like a car show rather than a car sale. Are a few for sale as well?

    Looks like a great event - would love to get there some time. 


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    At the RetroClassic are a lot of dealers…all the cars of my pics are for sale.

    But the bigger and better event is TechniClassica at Essen.

    Blueflame


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    DJM48:

    RetroClassic looks like a car show rather than a car sale. Are a few for sale as well?

    Looks like a great event - would love to get there some time. 

     

    It's a great event, a few years ago when I did Euro delivery of my 911R, we ended up at the Stuttgart airport early and stumbled upon it. My buddy ended up buying a a couple Testarossa and a 512TR and shipped them home. 

     


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    Re: 991.2 GT3 Touring on tour

    blueflame:

    At the RetroClassic are a lot of dealers…all the cars of my pics are for sale.

    But the bigger and better event is TechniClassica at Essen.

    Blueflame


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    Whoopsy:
    DJM48:

    RetroClassic looks like a car show rather than a car sale. Are a few for sale as well?

    Looks like a great event - would love to get there some time. 

     

    It's a great event, a few years ago when I did Euro delivery of my 911R, we ended up at the Stuttgart airport early and stumbled upon it. My buddy ended up buying a a couple Testarossa and a 512TR and shipped them home. 


     

     

    have added it to my Euro to do list!


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    So finally I found a proper 993 for my friend…in the next weeks it will be serviced and some weak spots will get some care.

    1994, 993 C4, 3.6/272HP, Midnightblue

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    Aw man, that's beautiful man!


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    Beautiful. The 993 is my favorite 911 shape.


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    First Trackday of 2023…new Cup2s, low temperatures, dry track, few traffic…a perfect day.kiss

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    PS as usual from the iPad, all pics in wrong order…

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    Re: 991.2 GT3 Touring on tour

    How was the MC20 doing?


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    Re: 991.2 GT3 Touring on tour

    Pentium:

    How was the MC20 doing?

    The driver was our pit neighbor…I don‘t know much details. 
    The car was new and the front brakes were totally gone in the afternoon after 4 stints…Smiley

    And he was not driving very hard.

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    Was going to ask the same about the Maserati. 
    Last time I was at Monza two McLaren had also their brakes fried after a few sessions while a Cayenne GT was laping the whole day with no problems. 
     

    Do you feel you are missing the extra down force on your Touring compared to the GT3 ?

     


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    I can drive exactly the same times as my „wing-friend“, but yes the Touring moves more…smiley…much more exciting - both are manuals.

    Blueflame

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    The fact that the display shows a "theoretical best" tell you all you need to know about car people indecision


    Re: 991.2 GT3 Touring on tour

    Gnil:

    Was going to ask the same about the Maserati. 
    Last time I was at Monza two McLaren had also their brakes fried after a few sessions while a Cayenne GT was laping the whole day with no problems. 
     

    Do you feel you are missing the extra down force on your Touring compared to the GT3 ?

     

     

    Haha that's the Porsche difference. They will always over sized their brakes, while others tried to save money and development there. Doesn't matter the brand, McLaren, Maserati, Ferrari, AMG, BMW, Lamborghini. 

    At my track, everyone tried to bring everything to run, but eventually all just ended up running Porsches. 

    Brakes all failed. Especially during the hot summer runs. A NSX actually blew its engine before the brakes failed. The new hybrid one. 


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    Re: 991.2 GT3 Touring on tour

    blueflame:

    I can drive exactly the same times as my „wing-friend“, but yes the Touring moves more…smiley…much more exciting - both are manuals.

    Blueflame

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    Smiley The G-force says it all 


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    is your cage coming from Manthey? I can't remember that part of the modifications...mail


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    Re: 991.2 GT3 Touring on tour

    the-missile:

    is your cage coming from Manthey? I can't remember that part of the modifications...mail

    Yes…Manthey installed the cage and 6-point-Harness in my Touring.

    Blueflame


    Re: 991.2 GT3 Touring on tour

    blueflame:
    Pentium:

    How was the MC20 doing?

    The driver was our pit neighbor…I don‘t know much details. 
    The car was new and the front brakes were totally gone in the afternoon after 4 stints…Smiley

    And he was not driving very hard.

    Blueflame

    Ouch. I guess Maserati is indeed Ferrari's parts bin graveyard. Smiley Smiley

    I don't understand why someone would get a MC20 over a 296GTB right now but to each his own I guess.


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    RC:
     

    I don't understand why someone would get a MC20 over a 296GTB right now but to each his own I guess.

    MC20 got fantastic reviews for driving pleasure 


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    Isn‘t the carbon chassis of the MC20 very similar to the one of the Alfa Romeo 4C? 
     

    The owner of the Maserati was very relaxed and cool…he had a van with some support guys and garden chairs with him…after the fried brakes he was smoking a cigar in the pits…smiley.
     

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    Re: 991.2 GT3 Touring on tour

    Inspired from the discussion in the „T50-Thread“ I like to share some pics with you…first drive of the season for the old 993 with the whole family(wife and 2 kids). The old car gives us so much fun together.kiss

    And we met a good friend on a parking lot…he had also an old Porsche with him.blush

    We had some great miles on our country roads together and enjoyed the sound of 16 cylinders…indecision

    Blueflame


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    Your car looks great, the color is so elegant. I'm sure driving behind the CGT is an auditory delight. 


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    Beautiful color on your 911! I love seeing the pushrod suspension next to the V10, so purposeful.


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    That green on the 993, he even kept the original tape deck radio!!


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    My god, brilliant mate! Both the 993 and the CGT cool


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    Re: 991.2 GT3 Touring on tour

    blueflame:

    Inspired from the discussion in the „T50-Thread“ I like to share some pics with you…first drive of the season for the old 993 with the whole family(wife and 2 kids). The old car gives us so much fun together.kiss

    And we met a good friend on a parking lot…he had also an old Porsche with him.blush

    We had some great miles on our country roads together and enjoyed the sound of 16 cylinders…indecision

    Blueflame


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    Blueflame -- can't believe you own a 911!Smileywhat does your GT4 say about that?Smiley


    Re: 991.2 GT3 Touring on tour

    I think you mistook him for bluelines.


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    I see where he got confused :)


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