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    Re: 2024 BMW M3 CS Official Now

    It's interesting that BMW is being so strict about allocations with this car. I don't recall them managing a release like this before. Or perhaps we just didn't realize because we didn't have someone tracking it the way you are doing it atm indecision

    In a not-so-unrelated tangent, I've been looking at listings for the F80 M3, could be a fun bad decisions that future me can deal with down the line. 


    Re: 2024 BMW M3 CS Official Now

    Enmanuel:

    It's interesting that BMW is being so strict about allocations with this car. I don't recall them managing a release like this before. Or perhaps we just didn't realize because we didn't have someone tracking it the way you are doing it atm indecision

    In a not-so-unrelated tangent, I've been looking at listings for the F80 M3, could be a fun bad decisions that future me can deal with down the line. 

    I realize that the US market seems to get one car per dealer only but I'm not so sure about the German market:

    Yesterday, another sales person called me (basically the same dealership but they have different locations), I talked to him months ago (even forgot about it) about the M3 CS.

    Well, he offered me a M3 CS. Delivery this year (I asked him when and he said this year, he has no more details). He just told me that I need to decide fast, latest next week.

    My wild guess is: The base price of 146k EUR in Germany (around 160k with all options) puts off a lot of potential customers. However: Once the car will be reviewed (YouTubers, car magazines, CarWow drag races, etc.), things will change. 

    So far, I assume that the M3 CS isn't in high demand in Germany but this can change fast once the media presence increases.

     


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    Re: 2024 BMW M3 CS Official Now

    https://youtu.be/3aHlPZuyUxc

    If you know German, worth watching.

    What you see in the video are basically the race car mods for the M4 GT3 engine. Looks more like a big office because BMW is using for their M4 GT3 cars the stock engine, NO internal mods. Zero. 😱 

    Engine is good for 20000 racing kms without any revision. 😱 

    590 hp for racing usage, very reliable engine up to 700 hp (over 800 are possible without new turbo chargers).

    Very impressive.


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    Re: 2024 BMW M3 CS Official Now

    Thanks for sharing that video. Very interesting.


    Re: 2024 BMW M3 CS Official Now

    Gauss:

    Thanks for sharing that video. Very interesting.

    I found it quite interesting as well, especially when looking at BMWs motorsport approach and the cost of it. Very clever.


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    Re: 2024 BMW M3 CS Official Now

    My black M3 CS with the BMW winter wheels (mine are going to be bronze, different rim design):

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    Re: 2024 BMW M3 CS Official Now

    But you're taking the little red trim off the front teeth right? indecision


    Re: 2024 BMW M3 CS Official Now

    Enmanuel:

    But you're taking the little red trim off the front teeth right? indecision

    Since I've ordered a completely black car, I don't know yet. I have to see it live in black first, these pics were taken off Instagram.


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    Re: 2024 BMW M3 CS Official Now

    RC:

    https://youtu.be/3aHlPZuyUxc

    If you know German, worth watching.

    Thanks!  The Auto-generated English subtitles are pretty effective too...


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    Re: 2024 BMW M3 CS Official Now

    Another reason I took the M3 CS in black...the yellow "icon" lights are much better noticeable. 

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    Re: 2024 BMW M3 CS Official Now

    It needs. front grill delete option. 


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    Re: 2024 BMW M3 CS Official Now

    Whoopsy:

    It needs. front grill delete option. 

    I love it Smiley but I guess you are more on my daughter's side with the Hitler moustache. Smiley Smiley 

    Actually, the front of the M3 is one of the major reasons I like this car. Smiley

     


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    Re: 2024 BMW M3 CS Official Now

    Very busy looking this car, even in camouflage black. yes


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    Re: 2024 BMW M3 CS Official Now

    Rossi:

    Very busy looking this car, even in camouflage black. yes

    Hmm…interesting how people have different perceptions. I always loved the G20/G80 design. 🤷🏻‍♂️


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    Re: 2024 BMW M3 CS Official Now

    Maybe I missed it but why you decided on this car? 


    Re: 2024 BMW M3 CS Official Now

    I like the yellow lights. Wonder if it is going to be a new trend 


    Re: 2024 BMW M3 CS Official Now

    I am certainly in the minority, but I like the beaver teeth (iX, 7, M3).  Strong statement. I prefer the M3 front to the normal 3. (But do not like busy hood)

    In France, the lamps used to be yellow too, if I remember correctly. Why were they changed to white? What are the advantages of yellow/white?


    Re: 2024 BMW M3 CS Official Now

    Itsme

    In France, the lamps used to be yellow too, if I remember correctly. Why were they changed to white? What are the advantages of yellow/white?

    That s right. All cars in France used to have yellow lights. It was supposed to be better than white lamps in fog conditions, France has many areas with fog specially in autumn.   When the EU got commun rules for cars homologation they had to drop it. Probably it also did not make anymore sense since lights got also better. 


    Re: 2024 BMW M3 CS Official Now

    Back in the day some cars like Citroën and Peugeots came with yellow lights, it was said that it gave better visibility I'm the fog.


    Re: 2024 BMW M3 CS Official Now

    wantone:

    Maybe I missed it but why you decided on this car? 

    I need a sporty daily driver and I like the whole package. Smiley


    My Z4 M40i has been flawless so far, it is fun to drive, very powerful (the engine has 340 hp on paper but mine is closer to 400, 100 to 200 kph in 10 seconds flat) and I got the chance to get one of the first M3 CS, so... Smiley

    There is nothing out there better in this domain, the new C63 AMG E Performance is a joke and Audi has nothing either. The new RS 6 Performance is too big for me and too heavy and also costs a bit more.

    Also, this car will go to my son once he finishes university. I promised it to him (well, in around 6-7 years, so... Smiley).

    No lease. Smiley


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Lamborghini Huracan Performante (2019), BMW Z4 M40i (2022), Jeep Grand Cherokee Trackhawk (2019 EU)


    Re: 2024 BMW M3 CS Official Now

    Gnil:

    I like the yellow lights. Wonder if it is going to be a new trend 

    BMW uses them for their motorsport cars, it is kind of a design gimmick but I like them a lot, they look great on an all black car. Smiley Could be a new trend, don't know.

    Funny, my daughter says the headlights look dirty with the yellow lights, she doesn't like it. SmileySmiley


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Lamborghini Huracan Performante (2019), BMW Z4 M40i (2022), Jeep Grand Cherokee Trackhawk (2019 EU)


    Re: 2024 BMW M3 CS Official Now

    Itsme:

    I am certainly in the minority, but I like the beaver teeth (iX, 7, M3).  Strong statement. I prefer the M3 front to the normal 3. (But do not like busy hood)

    I like the M3 front a lot but only with the German style (wide) license plate.

    I also like the new XM styling, many seem to hate it. Smiley


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Lamborghini Huracan Performante (2019), BMW Z4 M40i (2022), Jeep Grand Cherokee Trackhawk (2019 EU)


    Re: 2024 BMW M3 CS Official Now

    Here is an interesting list of parts which are different on the M3 CS (compared to the standard M3 Competition xDrive).

    These are CSL part numbers but they are mostly interchangeable, the wheels are not the bronze ones (I have the part numbers of those if someone needs th

    FRONT AXLE

    • Damper L 31 31 8091351
    • Damper R 31 31 8091352
    • Springs 31 33 7885626
    • Bumpstops 31 33 6895351
    • Anti-roll bar 31 33 6895351
    • Steering knuckle 'RWD MINUS' L 31 21 7883637
    • Steering knuckle 'RWD MINUS' R 31 21 7883638
    • Strut brace 51 62 7885847


    REAR AXLE

    • Damper L 33 50 8091385
    • Damper R 33 50 8091386
    • Springs 31 33 7885626
    • Anti-roll bar 33 50 8091429
    • Driveshaft L 33 20 7887199
    • Driveshaft R 33 20 7887200


    WHEELS

    • 827M 9.5x19 ET20 36 10 8093840
    • 827M 10.5x20 ET20 36 10 8093841


    WHEELS

    • 827M 9.5x19 ET20 36 10 8093840
    • 827M 10.5x20 ET20 36 10 8093841


    DRIVETRAIN

    • Engine mount L 22 11 7886927
    • Engine mount R 22 11 7886928
    • Transmission mount 22 11 7886929


    EXTERIOR

    • Kidney grille 51 13 8085968
    • Rear badge 
    • Decals 51 14 7886392
    • Headlight Laser Yellow ECE L 63 11 7885837
    • Headlight Laser Yellow ECE R 63 11 7885838
    • Headlight Laser Yellow USA L 63 11 7885842
    • Headlight Laser Yellow USA R 63 11 7885841
    • Headlight Laser Yellow USA L 63 11 7885843 (0838 National version CANADA)
    • Headlight Laser Yellow USA R 63 11 7885844 (0838 National version CANADA)
    • Hood/Bonnet Carbon 51 91 7885063
    • Spoiler front upper 51 75 8085420
    • Spoiler front bottom 51 75 8086350
    • Splitter front L 51 11 7885805
    • Splitter front R 51 11 7885806
    • Spoiler front bracket L 51 11 8086433
    • Spoiler front bracket R 51 11 8086434


    INTERIOR

    • Treadplates 51 47 8086133
    • Rear door card L 51 41 7886841
    • Rear door card R 51 41 7886842
    • Dash trim CF 51 45 9503704
    • Steering wheel 32 30 8043616
    • Centre console CF 51 16 9505002
    • Centre console cover CF 51 16 9504995
    • Centre console cover 51 16 7883333
    • Centre armrest 51 16 9504999

     

    The titanium exhaust parts are missing...the exhaust system is also different than the one of the M3 Competition xDrive.

    The above parts and part numbers have been researched by a member of a different car forum. 

    There is a rumor that the M3 CS (like the M4 CSL) uses a few more different parts for the cooling system (radiators, air ducts, etc.).


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    Re: 2024 BMW M3 CS Official Now

    Part numbers for the CSL bucket seats (they weight even less):

    52 10 7887708 x1 cfrp seat frame
    52 10 7887707 x1
    52 10 7887712 x1 inner cushion
    52 10 7887711 x1
    52 10 7887714 x1 outer cushion
    52 10 7887713 x1
    52 10 7887716 x1 side bolster thing
    52 10 7887715 x1
    52 10 7887706 x2 bottom cushion
    52 10 7887717 x2 headrest
    52 10 7883320 x2 badge
    52 10 8067477 x2 ballsack divider
    52 10 7887709 x1 seat rail
    52 10 7887710 x1
    52 10 8087904 x2 idk
    51 47 9908579 x8 screws
    07 11 9906215 x8 washers

    Not sure how much it would cost to retrofit, probably not cheap, also not sure if it would be street legal in Germany for example because of the certification (depends on what BMW allows and what not, also if the airbags still work properly).


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Lamborghini Huracan Performante (2019), BMW Z4 M40i (2022), Jeep Grand Cherokee Trackhawk (2019 EU)


    Re: 2024 BMW M3 CS Official Now

    Welcome on M3CSRennteam.com smiley


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    Re: 2024 BMW M3 CS Official Now

    Porker:

    Welcome on M3CSRennteam.com smiley

    If this is what it takes to have him back then I'm willing to endure it Smiley 


    Re: 2024 BMW M3 CS Official Now

    I'm kidding, I also love to digest all details when expecting a new car. That's what separates us nerds from the normal population.


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    Re: 2024 BMW M3 CS Official Now

    Porker:

    Welcome on M3CSRennteam.com smiley

    Smiley C'mon...one thread. Smiley

    Car nerds...I like it. Smiley


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    Re: 2024 BMW M3 CS Official Now

    Enmanuel:
    Porker:

    Welcome on M3CSRennteam.com smiley

    If this is what it takes to have him back then I'm willing to endure it Smiley 

    You give me way too much credit, Enmanuel. This forum would be nothing without people like you, Carlos and all the others here. Smiley

    I just went through hell over the past two years and no, nobody really knows what happened (I know there is a lot of speculation) and what I had to endure mentally, there was nothing normal or usual about it. Crazy story I can only share face to face. 


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    Re: 2024 BMW M3 CS Official Now

    Hope everything is back to normal, RC. Glad to see you back.


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