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watt said:
WELL nick,
they handed you your ass here, but you have helped them by acting like a status driven F poseur.
the stradale, enzo and 550 to me are great cars, as are many past F's. for me,
the 430 is reaching an all bling look, while performing fantastically. but F knows its customer [nick]
in 10 months as an F driver, i put 8900 miles on my CS, and found the group of F DRIVERS who hang out on fchat and rennteam. it is a very small group:
-chalstrad [peter, spa and CT]
-tdf360 [gary, N CA]
-wch [will WA?]
-brian stradale
-mr doody
and a few others out of hundreds of owners who post. many of my friends who drive their P's park their F's.
the problem is separating blatant materialism and showing off from sports cars. every brand plays on some uniqueness, but why do you own your car?
i was pissed at Porsche when the Cayenne came out, but really does it matter what they make as long as they are built and drive like Porsches? exclusivity is an unsophisticated concept required by status seekers, and i have fallen for it sometimes too.
well, we just got a Cayenne Turbo to replace the F product QP that had 40 days out of service in 4 months of ownership. and the CT stunned me, it is outstanding and a Porsche in every way. i also recently got an 05 Boxster S which, status wise in materialistic LA is considered a ladies or fag's car. this also is an outstanding PORSCHE, which ultimately will lead to the demise of the 911 through better handling by design.
F makes great cars, and i hear plans a starter F for the lower classes [$120k], but the competition is such that cars almost as good [objectively in daily use] as last night's heavies [430, gt2] are coming out at 1/3 the price: Boxster S, Z06
one could argue a smart shopper buys value, even in sportscars. and that is where F and burberry.....ahem...
Watt you agree with me but just do not realize it.
You indicate "exclusivity is a concept for unsophisticated status seekers" implying that true sport car enthusiast does not want exclusivity. Tell me, why did Porsche limit its production of the CGT if exclusivity is irrelevant?
Why is AM limiting the production of its V8 which has been sold out for over 2 years?
Why are several new sport car manufacturers Fiske and others entering the market with the primary objective of limiting the production of the cars? What do they know many on this board do not understand?
If value is important then it is exactly why I have problems with Porsche. How can you explain that by most measures the CGT is the finest sport car on the planet and yet presently it is being discounted 10% off MSRP and will continue to decline. The other day there was a new CGT on EBay which had been listed for two weeks and had an asking opening bid of $400,000 AND IT DID NOT GET ONE BID! The GT2 which you are very familiar with depreciated more than the CGT despite being top in its class in performance. The TT took a bath depreciation wise which has not been seen in years. I will spare the hits taken by the 996 and 987. WHY IS THIS HAPPENING TO PORSCHE MADE CARS?
No, the people getting their asses handed to them are Porsche owners.
Is Ferrari about bling? In part yes. But it is a car I can drive and enjoy in as a sport car. It feel and sensory input is something in my mind cannot be match by no other sport car. If I was a hardcore track person I would buy some of the lesser cars you mention. When it involves; value, beauty, performance and sensual experience look to Ferrari!
BTW you have my condolence regarding your purchase of the Cayenne TT. You will find out soon enough why.
