What if you don’t have shareholders? smiley You and many just keep applying big old traditional company legacy thinking to a giant startup. That’s the key to such strong and opposite opinions about Tesla. And again I have no idea or skin in the game if Tesla will overcome its debt. But you need to take your head out of the sand for that one and think outside the box. I always like the underdogs. Apple was virtually bankrupt too, look where it is now... But that took vision Smiley