Ferdie,

I admit, I was about 10% subjective in my post.

For example I had long discussion with my friend who do not like 458 design at all. In his opinion proportions of 458 are wrong(way too long front overhang, too narrow rear wheels with too high sidewalls tires etc.). I disagree with him. Just... After checking out 458 recently in person I could honestly say this it looked more impressive on pictures then in person. Example that I checked in person was in traditional Rosso Corsa and while impressive car in total it is not unfortunately design masterpiece as I hoped. Still, it is overall an impressive design IMHO.

In total honesty some details on 458 Italia are just plain wrong IMHO.

McLaren MP4-12C is good rather then great design. As you correctly() pointed out it looks different mainly because of its technical design aspects. How well it will age? Almost as good as R8 I expect.

R8 is very good design. My friend that I mentioned above thinks that R8 looks better then 458. BTW, he owns Panamera...

918 Spyder... After saw it in person I can say-better then in pictures-still do not like it at all. ..and most members here thinks it looks great and fresh in design? Who is subjective here? Members who are Porsche fans or me?  At Geneva one Italian Gent from F LOL at Porsche stand when he saw 918. For a reason I could add. 918 is bigger in overall dimensions then McLaren MP4-12C for example(in true MP4-12C is only 10mm longer) with 20mm shorter wheelbase... In person it looks as strange as possible to my eyes. Yes, I am 100% subjective here. My comment is based on the fact that some people wrote that:"918 is tiny car..."

All in all good thing is that we have here on rennteam such difference in opinion and that our debate is still very good and open.