I still prefer the oakley's I suggested in Mike's original thread to the Pilotis. The Oakley's have a tapering sole which allows more tactile feel to your toes. They also support my wide foot a bit better while remaining as thin as possible. I don't recommend walking around in these or wearing them around for prolonged periods unless you buy the low-top model -- the boots I have are for my suit, and offer that extra ankle support which can be a bit of a pain around town. In other words...unless I am actually racing, I usually just wear these for the occaisonal sunday drive. The low top Oakley's and Pilotis are better for other uses (like walking as well) but I still prefer the Oakley's due to the tapered sole.