A lot of people here couldn't care less about Teslas, just not interested believe it or not, and it gets very tiring having to filter all the Tesla stuff from these non-Tesla threads, there is already a Tesla thread where anybody can discuss Tesla all they want. The poster even explicitly said that he doesn't want to read about Tesla vs Porsche and is interested in the Taycan not a Tesla, and wants to hear from owners .. and even that didn't avoid it, her got the exact opposite... it just had to be about Teslas again. Hope you can understand what I'm saying Leawood, I understand you love your Tesla and that is great but you don't have to go around like a Jehovah's Witness trying to evangelize everybody. Let's to keep most of the Tesla stuff in the Tesla thread please.