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    Re: Porsche Mission E...the future of Porsche?

    Wonderbar:

    I know this is marketing, but I still find it interesting.

    https://presse.porsche.de/prod/presse_pag/PressResources.nsf/Content?ReadForm&languageversionid=1006638&view=1

    Hmmm... the sentence “Further drivers are digitalization and smart mobility:”  does not make any sense.  Perhaps sloppiness in translation from original German? Or maybe I am not digitalized enough to understand...Smiley

    Interesting when we picked up our 911T earlier this summer, the dealer applied extreme pressure to have us connected with the systems sim card, eg. “we sales managers will lose compensation if we fail to do this...”, etc. The connected features have zero value where we drive, and thus we see no need for yet another cellular data plan, so we held firm, saying that Porsche of all companies should understand when a buyer values driving above all else.  


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    Re: Porsche Mission E...the future of Porsche?

    We had this conversation about a week or so but......

    A photo of the car covered I posted but is not enough !!!!

    inside PDF photos of the wheels are not enough!!!

    What the FUCK to all you RENNTEAM members i´m doing here?

     

     

     


    Re: Porsche Mission E...the future of Porsche?

    Paulo_Rangel_Melo:

    We had this conversation about a week or so but......

    A photo of the car covered I posted but is not enough !!!!

    inside PDF photos of the wheels are not enough!!!

    What the FUCK to all you RENNTEAM members i´m doing here?

    Hey Paulo - nobody here disrespects your posts (though we honestly did not know what the covered car was...Smiley).  But you should know by now, threads on RT do wander around a bit, and thats OK.  When there is no embargo and the Taycan is introduced, you will see the thread stay more on topic.  So if this thread strays a bit, just chill.  Smiley


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    Re: Porsche Mission E...the future of Porsche?

    Paulo, it is the middle of the night in Europe where mods live.... you understand time zones?

     


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    Re: Porsche Mission E...the future of Porsche?

    Ouch....Paulo, chill out bro  Did you forgot to take your medicine last night? smiley


    Re: Porsche Mission E...the future of Porsche?

    I have a problem?!

    Maybe i was educated in a different way!!! THANK GOD!!!

    Posting Pics, News, inside Info, "discussing" "stuff" regarding the Taycan but No!!!! i even posted some new stuff on the 992 including the most 992 wanted option "a fucking PSE button"....but...Dont Give a Shit!!!!

    And some members here on the Forum apparently have some green card for all the crap they doi!

    Wifes, the pain in the....., the paint tear drop in the car, my pink thing, everything is more important!!!!

    Olha, querem que vos diga! Façam-me a Puta do Favor e simplesmente apagam o meu registo! Tenho mais que fazer!!!!


    Re: Porsche Mission E...the future of Porsche?

    Paulo_Rangel_Melo:

    I have a problem?!

    Maybe i was educated in a different way!!! THANK GOD!!!

    Posting Pics, News, inside Info, "discussing" "stuff" regarding the Taycan but No!!!! i even posted some new stuff on the 992 including the most 992 wanted option "a fucking PSE button"....but...Dont Give a Shit!!!!

    And some members here on the Forum apparently have some green card for all the crap they doi!

    Wifes, the pain in the....., the paint tear drop in the car, my pink thing, everything is more important!!!!

    Olha, querem que vos diga! Façam-me a Puta do Favor e simplesmente apagam o meu registo! Tenho mais que fazer!!!!

     

    Dude, chill!!

    You been here since 2003 I see, then you know already what this forum is like.

    What reactions you were expecting? The whole place turned upside down? Nah, I don't think a Taycan have that effect.

    Maybe you think you have THE inside scoop, it's like breaking news and hence expecting some hyper excited members.  But then again, may here do have insider access and perhaps have NDA active, and can't say anything to confirm or deny stuff. Porsche AG do read this form you know and just reactions along could jeopardize future access. A screen name is nothing to hide behind. 

    And in case you haven't noticed, a lot here are not pure Porsche fan, we buy other marques too, and some simply to interested with Porsche stuff anymore. 

    The Rennteam forum has evolved into a lounge, we talk cars, we talk wives, we talk whatever at times, and we are quite liberal with moderation OT stuff in a thread, apart from Politics which is just about the only thing off limit. 

    Maybe you saw the Corvette thread getting a lot of attention and thought the Taycan stuff would get the same. Difference being the new Corvette is out now, information is readily available and hence more stuff to talk about. Porsche on the other hand is keeping a very tight lip about the car yet, I know most of it but I can't really say anything just yet.


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    Re: Porsche Mission E...the future of Porsche?

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    Re: Porsche Mission E...the future of Porsche?

    Paulo_Rangel_Melo:

    I have a problem?!

    Maybe i was educated in a different way!!! THANK GOD!!!

    Posting Pics, News, inside Info, "discussing" "stuff" regarding the Taycan but No!!!! i even posted some new stuff on the 992 including the most 992 wanted option "a fucking PSE button"....but...Dont Give a Shit!!!!

    And some members here on the Forum apparently have some green card for all the crap they doi!

    Wifes, the pain in the....., the paint tear drop in the car, my pink thing, everything is more important!!!!

    Olha, querem que vos diga! Façam-me a Puta do Favor e simplesmente apagam o meu registo! Tenho mais que fazer!!!!

    Paulo, you're acting like a drunk teen. C'mon we're all here petrolheads, but no need to be obsessed so badly. Nobody is forcing you to write here... it's a free world man. If you don't like this forum - keep going forward! 


    Re: Porsche Mission E...the future of Porsche?

    Almost forgot, friendly advice Paulo, you should see a doctor. Thank me later wink


    Re: Porsche Mission E...the future of Porsche?

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    I think we lost Paulo.


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    Re: Porsche Mission E...the future of Porsche?

    indecision


    Re: Porsche Mission E...the future of Porsche?

    I guess RC need to close this forum now...it doesn't worth without Paulo and his spy pics of the covered Taycan smiley 

    Me cry...​​​​​


    Re: Porsche Mission E...the future of Porsche?

    Paulo is Portuguese. They are temperamental and probably celebrate all night at this time of year. Don't be so critical of him ...smileywink


    Re: Porsche Mission E...the future of Porsche?

    Boyko23:

    Paulo is Portuguese. They are temperamental and probably celebrate all night at this time of year. Don't be so critical of him ...smileywink

    Kids at his age shouldn't celebrate all night SmileySmiley


    Re: Porsche Mission E...the future of Porsche?

    Paulo_Rangel_Melo:

    I have a problem?!

    Maybe i was educated in a different way!!! THANK GOD!!!

    Posting Pics, News, inside Info, "discussing" "stuff" regarding the Taycan but No!!!! i even posted some new stuff on the 992 including the most 992 wanted option "a fucking PSE button"....but...Dont Give a Shit!!!!

    And some members here on the Forum apparently have some green card for all the crap they doi!

    Wifes, the pain in the....., the paint tear drop in the car, my pink thing, everything is more important!!!!

    Olha, querem que vos diga! Façam-me a Puta do Favor e simplesmente apagam o meu registo! Tenho mais que fazer!!!!

    Another bad day ? Not much going on in the Acores ?  Smiley

    Paulo, chill Man !  We know you since all these years and you have often posted very interesting stuff . Keep doing it . Just do not expect too many reactions . Often people read and take in , but will not comment . I am sure your Taycan rims post was appreciated , it just does not unleash passion . People are now waiting to see the real photos of the final product . 

    PSE button for 992 is a great info .... surely taken in , but not enough to have a debate . For that you need to talk about wifes, Tesla or banned politics Smiley

    You can delete your own posts ..... that is  possible using the edit button  . 


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    Re: Porsche Mission E...the future of Porsche?

    McQueen:

    I guess RC need to close this forum now...it doesn't worth without Paulo and his spy pics of the covered Taycan smiley 

    Me cry...​​​​​

    Smiley I guess Paulo had too much Beirao... Smiley


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    Re: Porsche Mission E...the future of Porsche?

    I suspect whatever he is posting here he posting on another site and getting the same reaction. He thinks all car enthusiasts should kiss his ring whenever he posts. He has a self image problem which requires constant adulation. 

    Paulo, move on if your not getting what you want from us. 


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    Re: Porsche Mission E...the future of Porsche?

    We need a laugh!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HV-OSCFArI


    Re: Porsche Mission E...the future of Porsche?

    bvineyards:

    We need a laugh!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HV-OSCFArI

    Hilarious!Smiley


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    Re: Porsche Mission E...the future of Porsche?

    Thank you Nick!


    Re: Porsche Mission E...the future of Porsche?

    PSE button is good news and shows Porsche listens . So too the upgrading of the “Braun” in alu.


    Re: Porsche Mission E...the future of Porsche?

    Is he portuguese or brazilian? yes


    Re: Porsche Mission E...the future of Porsche?

    996FourEss:

    PSE button is good news and shows Porsche listens . So too the upgrading of the “Braun” in alu.

    PSE button??? I thought exhaust buttons are forbidden now (EU emissions law)? Smiley


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    Re: Porsche Mission E...the future of Porsche?

    RC:
    996FourEss:

    PSE button is good news and shows Porsche listens . So too the upgrading of the “Braun” in alu.

    PSE button??? I thought exhaust buttons are forbidden now (EU emissions law)? Smiley

    Maybe they are allowed if the button does not change the level of the sound , only the frequencies . 

    Or maybe the button only affects the sound made inside the car , having an impact only on the sound symposium.

    Paolo did post a pic where it showed the 992 with a button 


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    Re: Porsche Mission E...the future of Porsche?

    Guys, you're all wrong.

    The PSE button in the 992 has a new meaning. Now it stands for "Pleasing sound externally". Smiley


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    Re: Porsche Mission E...the future of Porsche?

    Gnil:

    Or maybe the button only affects the sound made inside the car , having an impact only on the sound symposium.

    Right, this is probably just the PSE button for a non sport chrono equipped car that doesnt have a Sport button, and will likely do the same thing as the sport button but just for the PSE, i.e. will mainly just change the sound inside the cabin.


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    Re: Porsche Mission E...the future of Porsche?

    The other day I was talking to someone who tried the new Macan and commented on how good the car actually sounds .

    I pointed out that this is only inside de cabin , and that from outside you don't hear the same sound . He would not believe me , and he is a guy who has owned many cars  . I told him to go and check it out again .

    Lots of people do not even realize that what they are hearing is a pretty arranged sound and that it does not come from outside .


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    Re: Porsche Mission E...the future of Porsche?

    RC:
    996FourEss:

    PSE button is good news and shows Porsche listens . So too the upgrading of the “Braun” in alu.

    PSE button??? I thought exhaust buttons are forbidden now (EU emissions law)? Smiley

    Perhaps the PSE button is for other regions where it is allowed, for example, the U.S. market.  


    Re: Porsche Mission E...the future of Porsche?

    Porsche Taycan factory within a factory...

    Mr. Reimold, what does the launch of Porsche’s first electric sports car mean for you?

    The Taycan opens a new chapter in our history. Porsche has deliberately decided to produce this iconic new car at its main site in Zuffenhausen, the heart and home of the brand. The Taycan is something very special. Its performance, range, and innovative 800-volt technology for the shortest possible charging times are one of a kind. It’s a pure-blooded sports car, yet also suitable for everyday driving—in other words, it’s a typical Porsche. More than twenty thousand people from around the world have already contacted Porsche with serious interest in buying the car—without even having seen it. That’s just overwhelming. What’s happening is light years beyond what we could have expected.

    Are you prepared?

    Of course. It would be a problem if we weren’t. We’ll be opening our plant in September as planned.

    The Taycan is considered Porsche’s most sophisticated project ever. The company is building a completely new plant in Zuffenhausen and investing around €1 billion.

    Yes, the Taycan is very important to us. You just have to look at the incredible pace of this project. We presented the Mission E study at the Frankfurt International Motor Show in September of 2015. In November we started building the new body shop, where we’re already making the bodies of the current 911. Six months after that, we began clearing the field for the new assembly facility. In parallel to that, the Taycan’s production facilities were being planned. And twelve months later, the first prototypes and development cars were being made at the pilot center.

    “We’re reinventing our main site with the Taycan, building a factory within a factory.”Albrecht Reimold

    That’s all very ambitious. What are the biggest challenges involved?

    We’re reinventing our main site with the Taycan, building a factory within a factory. We’re integrating a completely new production facility with new technology and new processes—while running at full production capacity in our existing plant. Remember that we’re already making more cars in Zuffenhausen than ever before, with 250 two-door sports cars a day. That’s like open-heart surgery and affects all the relevant areas, from ensuring smooth ongoing production processes to preparing for the start of Taycan production and looking out for the interests of our neighbors. After all, our main site borders residential and industrial zones, and several roads and even a rail line run through it. That all requires sophisticated logistics, and is also why we’ll be producing the Taycan on multiple floors and in different building complexes.

    Wouldn’t it have been easier to make the Taycan at Porsche’s plant in Leipzig? More space is available there than in Zuffenhausen.

    Zuffenhausen is the birthplace of our sports cars. The Taycan is a clear sign of our commitment to this traditional site, which we’re leading into the future by preserving jobs here and even creating new ones. The pact with our employees means we’ve made the Taycan “our project.” In addition to good neighborly relations, the supervisory and executive boards also needed the support of the workforce before deciding to take such an extraordinary step. The employees are also participating financially in the project by putting a quarter of a percent of their negotiated pay raise into a fund. This type of arrangement is unique in the automotive industry. Moreover, we’re putting highly innovative production methods into practice with the Taycan and taking a step toward the factory of the future. We call it Porsche Production 4.0—smart, lean, and green. Smart stands for flexible and connected production. Lean means responsible and efficient use of resources. And green refers to sustainability and environmental protection. After all, our aim is to continually lessen the environmental impact of our products. Since 2014, we’ve reduced the CO2 emissions per car in our production and logistics by more than 75 percent.

    Reimold: “Zuffenhausen is the birthplace of our sports cars. The Taycan is a clear sign of our commitment to this traditional site.”

    So you’ve achieved your goal?

    No. Because Taycan production in Zuffenhausen will be carbon neutral. And our vision extends even further. We want our production to leave no environmental footprint whatsoever, with respect to the supply chain and the entire life cycle of our products.

    Regarding the products, does that mean Porsche will only be making electric cars?

    By no means. Porsche is and will remain a sports-car brand with high-powered cars—regardless of whether they’re driven by emotional gasoline engines, intelligent plug-in hybrids, or soon by purely electric systems as well. We’re a premium manufacturer, so our share of the market is relatively small. But we stand behind the climate goals agreed upon in Paris on December 12, 2015, and are clearly responsible for reducing our CO2 emissions. We can already do that without losing any of our performance levels or emotional appeal. For example, more than two-thirds of our Panamera customers in Europe are already opting for the plug-in hybrid version. We’re pursuing this development further in the purely electric sports-car sector with the Taycan.

    How far can that go?

    We’re expecting half of Porsche’s entire product range to be sold with an electric or hybrid drive by the middle of the next decade.

    That must be a real culture shock for traditional Porsche customers.

    Perhaps. But I can assure them that they’ll find everything they expect from our brand in a purely electric Porsche like the Taycan: extremely sporty driving dynamics, outstanding performance figures, and not least of all, a high degree of emotional appeal. I’m entirely convinced that the more attractive these products are, the faster electric mobility will be accepted. We’re sure that we’ll succeed in this and meet our customers’ expectations. 

    Reimold: “We’ve restructured the Taycan’s production from the ground up.”

    How does producing a fully electric sports car differ from producing one with a conventional engine—and how is it similar?

    It’s not the case that we simply put a battery where the gas tank was and replace the combustion engine with an electric drive. And installing a battery, an electric motor, and the requisite cooling system is obviously a different matter than installing a combustion engine with its exhaust system. But the Taycan is also a car whose body needs to be assembled and painted. Large parts of the production process are the same. However, new specialized knowledge is needed to handle the high-voltage systems, which is why we’re giving all of our employees additional training. After all, we want to ensure that the Taycan embodies the high standards of quality that have always been associated with Porsche. Moreover, we want to ensure that purely electric sports cars can be individualized to the same degree as the current range of models. Our customers value the high degree of individualization that Porsche offers. Everyone gets exactly the car they want. You could say that we do series production of one-of-a-kind cars. That’ll be true of the Taycan as well.

    “We’ll be assembling the Taycan on a flexi-line with driverless transport systems that move automatically from station to station.” Albrecht Reimold

    There won’t be a conventional assembly line anymore for producing the Taycan.

    You’re right. We’ve restructured the Taycan’s production from the ground up. That has the advantage of letting us integrate highly innovative production standards. We’ll be assembling the Taycan on what’s known as a flexi-line with driverless transport systems that move automatically from station to station. That gives us more freedom not only in our production operations but also in the architecture of our new plant. The flexi-line offers enormous benefits in terms of both investment and flexibility. We saved around 30 percent of the investment costs by not setting the conveyor systems into the foundation. And because the line isn’t rigid we can modify it at any time, integrate new elements, or do bypasses to meet special customer wishes.

    The Taycan production system is also setting standards in digitalization.

    That’s true. People often use the word “revolution” in connection with Industry 4.0, but I see that differently. Because what we’re doing today is a further development of what we’ve already been doing in the past with automation, simulation, and virtual product and production planning. Digitalization is enabling us to design work environments more ergonomically. At the same time, it supports our employees in analyzing complex processes and procedures. It also generates transparency, for example, by letting us examine where and why a certain data flow might not be taking the best possible course. It helps us identify potential that we might not have recognized otherwise.

    Is this a precursor to a factory without any people?

    No, we have a tradition of focusing on people. Nothing will change there. We’re automating our processes to make things easier for our colleagues and to support them in their work, but we continue to place a premium on highly qualified employees. For the very complex work that our company does—putting superior-quality, individualized, and top-notch sports cars on the roads—it’s essential for us to combine the latest technology with the expertise of our specialists.

    So you won’t be cutting any jobs?

    Over the last few years we’ve nearly doubled the size of our workforce—to more than 32,000 employees. We’re hiring an additional 1,500 colleagues for the Taycan and Cross Turismo alone. At Porsche, electric mobility is an engine for job growth.

    Albrecht Reimold

    Reimold, fifty-eight, started his career with a toolmaking apprenticeship that led to top honors in a national toolmaking competition. After studying production engineering at the Heilbronn University of Applied Sciences, he joined Audi in Neckarsulm as a trainee. He later directed the body shop there as well as production of the innovative aluminum space-frame A8 and A2 cars. In 2002 he supported the run-up to production for the Lamborghini Gallardo in Sant’Agata Bolognese, Italy. One year later he took on production planning in Neckarsulm for pioneering Audi models like the A6, A8, and R8, before assuming directorship of the site in 2009. As the CEO of Volkswagen Slovakia in Bratislava from 2012 to 2016, he also prepared the launch of production for Volkswagen’s fully electric e-up! compact car, as well as for the Porsche Cayenne. He joined Porsche AG’s executive board in February 2016 as the member in charge of production and logistics. Reimold places a high priority on sustainability. Achievements under his leadership include a dramatic reduction in production-related CO2 emissions and carbon-neutral production of the Taycan in Zuffenhausen in the future. His declared aim is the Zero Impact Factory—production without environmental effects.

    Link:  https://newsroom.porsche.com/en/2019/company/porsche-interview-albrecht-reimold-production-taycan-18308.html

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