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Dec 7, 2018 1:19:06 AM

4trac: Expert; Loc: SK , Canada; Posts: 1920, Gallery; Registered on: Nov 6, 2006; Reply to: Carlos from Spain

Re: OFFICIAL: The new Porsche 992 – a design icon and high-tech sports car

Carlos from Spain:
4trac:
It would be interesting to overlay side views of 991 vs 992, which would presumably show how much the shape, including rear height, has changed.

That was fast! Thanks Carlos; biggest thing I can see is 3-4cm less view out the rear window, based on second image.

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Dec 7, 2018 1:26:30 AM

Wonderbar: Rennteam Pro; Loc: usa , France; Posts: 2687, Gallery; Registered on: Oct 31, 2005; Reply to: 4trac

Re: OFFICIAL: The new Porsche 992 – a design icon and high-tech sports car

The new one is wider in the rear, a fact that is emphasized by the horizontal light strip. Like others on this thread, I’m still getting used to the wide strip. I think I like it, but I’m not sure.

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Dec 7, 2018 5:12:04 AM

Paulo_Rangel_Melo: Expert; Loc: Portugal , Portugal; Posts: 1528, Gallery; Registered on: Nov 23, 2003; Reply to: Wonderbar

Re: OFFICIAL: The new Porsche 992 – a design icon and high-tech sports car

I think i´m going to quit but...

You guys here on Rennteam (not F****** Rennlist) realise that a red reflector/strip/illuminated or not connecting the tail lights has been a part of the nine eleven since 73 right?

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Dec 7, 2018 7:14:48 AM

Joost: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Dordrecht , Netherlands; Posts: 8037, Gallery; Registered on: May 3, 2004; Reply to: Paulo_Rangel_Melo

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Of course we do, but that doesn’t mean that each execution of it is instantly good looking. Some design choices are more aesthetically pleasing than others...

For me, I have found that cars -and those we admire even more so- are highly sensitive to the way they are photographed. You can be dumbstruck by a particularly odd detail on a photograph, which turns out to be a minor thing in real life. I myself, I like to stare at these images for longer times, trying to find the reasoning behind certain design details, etc. I might bitch about it, but when I see the cars in real life, I am mostly ik :-)

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Dec 7, 2018 8:36:35 AM

m4ever: Veteran; Loc: Czech Republic , Italy; Posts: 1051, Gallery; Registered on: Dec 30, 2005; Reply to: Paulo_Rangel_Melo

Re: OFFICIAL: The new Porsche 992 – a design icon and high-tech sports car

Paulo_Rangel_Melo:
I think i´m going to quit but...

You guys here on Rennteam (not F****** Rennlist) realise that a red reflector/strip/illuminated or not connecting the tail lights has been a part of the nine eleven since 73 right?

Don`t quit, enjoy very much your posts Smiley

The stripe was introduced, on the 911, with 1974 G models. No reflector stripe on previous F models. It was never illuminated prior to the 991 (4) and 992 . I personally don`t like the illuminated stripe, brings back memory of the unilamp trend in the sixties on american cars, but that is not the main issue , the issue is that it reduces the 911 identity as the same unilamp is on the Cayenne Macan and Panamera. For me the best design feature of the 992 are the pronounced hips, this the 911 Dna.

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Dec 7, 2018 9:34:46 AM

Porker: Rennteam VIP; Loc: SZ , Switzerland; Posts: 6991, Gallery; Registered on: Jan 17, 2005; Reply to: m4ever

Re: OFFICIAL: The new Porsche 992 – a design icon and high-tech sports car

m4ever:
Paulo_Rangel_Melo:
I think i´m going to quit but...

You guys here on Rennteam (not F****** Rennlist) realise that a red reflector/strip/illuminated or not connecting the tail lights has been a part of the nine eleven since 73 right?

Don`t quit, enjoy very much your posts

The stripe was introduced, on the 911, with 1974 G models. No reflector stripe on previous F models. It was never illuminated prior to the 991 (4) and 992 . I personally don`t like the illuminated stripe, brings back memory of the unilamp trend in the sixties on american cars, but that is not the main issue , the issue is that it reduces the 911 identity as the same unilamp is on the Cayenne Macan and Panamera. For me the best design feature of the 992 are the pronounced hips, this the 911 Dna.

Agree, that and the side windows.

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Dec 7, 2018 9:53:09 AM

Carlos from Spain: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Spain. , Spain; Posts: 21000, Gallery; Registered on: Feb 9, 2003; Reply to: m4ever

Re: OFFICIAL: The new Porsche 992 – a design icon and high-tech sports car

m4ever:
Paulo_Rangel_Melo:

The stripe was introduced, on the 911, with 1974 G models. No reflector stripe on previous F models. It was never illuminated prior to the 991 (4) and 992 . I personally don`t like the illuminated stripe, brings back memory of the unilamp trend in the sixties on american cars, but that is not the main issue , the issue is that it reduces the 911 identity as the same unilamp is on the Cayenne Macan and Panamera. For me the best design feature of the 992 are the pronounced hips, this the 911 Dna.

+1 My thoughts as well

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Dec 7, 2018 10:15:06 AM

SportCarGroup: Expert; Loc: IL , Israel; Posts: 1834, Gallery; Registered on: Jul 10, 2012; Reply to: Carlos from Spain

Re: OFFICIAL: The new Porsche 992 – a design icon and high-tech sports car

One thing I know for sure now, it's how the next generation of the 911 will look like - 993 smiley

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Dec 7, 2018 3:07:43 PM

CGX car nut: Rennteam Master; Loc: NWI , United States; Posts: 4795, Gallery; Registered on: Aug 17, 2011; Reply to: m4ever

Re: OFFICIAL: The new Porsche 992 – a design icon and high-tech sports car

m4ever:
Paulo_Rangel_Melo:
I think i´m going to quit but...

You guys here on Rennteam (not F****** Rennlist) realise that a red reflector/strip/illuminated or not connecting the tail lights has been a part of the nine eleven since 73 right?

Don`t quit, enjoy very much your posts

The stripe was introduced, on the 911, with 1974 G models. No reflector stripe on previous F models. It was never illuminated prior to the 991 (4) and 992 . I personally don`t like the illuminated stripe, brings back memory of the unilamp trend in the sixties on american cars, but that is not the main issue , the issue is that it reduces the 911 identity as the same unilamp is on the Cayenne Macan and Panamera. For me the best design feature of the 992 are the pronounced hips, this the 911 Dna.

At the end of October, I attended an event in the Chicago suburbs. Returning back to downtown, I was behind a car with a very bright horizontal strip of light drawn across the entire rear of the car. At first I didn’t recognize it. As I got closer, I thought it could be a Panamera but the stripe was too wide. Then I thought it was a 991/4 but something was still amiss. Then I realized it could be a 992. As I tried to take a closer look by pulling alongside, the driver braked and with relatively heavy traffic my opportunity was lost.

The point of my ramblings is that the 992 seems more ambiguous and anonymous at night with this new tail lamp signature.

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Dec 7, 2018 10:43:29 PM

KMM: Expert; Loc: Boston, MA , United States; Posts: 1743, Gallery; Registered on: Feb 5, 2004; Reply to: CGX car nut

Re: OFFICIAL: The new Porsche 992 – a design icon and high-tech sports car

CGX, aren't describing a process that is learned over time? Did it seem anonymous because we haven't had a chance to see and learn what the car's light signature is? Can you have instant recognition and novelty together?

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Dec 9, 2018 11:17:03 AM

SportCarGroup: Expert; Loc: IL , Israel; Posts: 1834, Gallery; Registered on: Jul 10, 2012; Reply to: KMM

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Dec 9, 2018 12:17:03 PM

Leawood911: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Kansas, USA , United States; Posts: 6909, Gallery; Registered on: Aug 29, 2006; Reply to: SportCarGroup

Re: OFFICIAL: The new Porsche 992 – a design icon and high-tech sports car

Wonder what happens if either of those $5 electric fans fails? I bet most owners will never even open the rear. Do we have any pics of the spoiler open?

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Dec 9, 2018 12:56:15 PM

Porsche-Jeck: Rennteam Master; Loc: Rheinland , Germany; Posts: 4856, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 27, 2005; Reply to: Leawood911

Re: OFFICIAL: The new Porsche 992 – a design icon and high-tech sports car

Leawood911:
Do we have any pics of the spoiler open?

Smiley

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Dec 9, 2018 1:08:55 PM

Carlos from Spain: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: Spain. , Spain; Posts: 21000, Gallery; Registered on: Feb 9, 2003; Reply to: Porsche-Jeck

Re: OFFICIAL: The new Porsche 992 – a design icon and high-tech sports car

That is the biggest screw up in the 992 by far... looks like the engine lid is open instead mail

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Dec 9, 2018 1:44:01 PM

996AD: Pilot; Loc: Abu Dhabi , United Arab Emirates; Posts: 358, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 12, 2004; Reply to: Carlos from Spain

Re: OFFICIAL: The new Porsche 992 – a design icon and high-tech sports car

If inside panel was painted

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Dec 9, 2018 2:06:17 PM

SportCarGroup: Expert; Loc: IL , Israel; Posts: 1834, Gallery; Registered on: Jul 10, 2012; Reply to: Leawood911

Re: OFFICIAL: The new Porsche 992 – a design icon and high-tech sports car

Leawood911:
Wonder what happens if either of those $5 electric fans fails? I bet most owners will never even open the rear. Do we have any pics of the spoiler open?

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Dec 9, 2018 5:06:23 PM

CGX car nut: Rennteam Master; Loc: NWI , United States; Posts: 4795, Gallery; Registered on: Aug 17, 2011; Reply to: Leawood911

Re: OFFICIAL: The new Porsche 992 – a design icon and high-tech sports car

Leawood911:
Wonder what happens if either of those $5 electric fans fails? I bet most owners will never even open the rear. Do we have any pics of the spoiler open?

Is that any different that what is found on the 991? One takes no issue with spoiler and it is better integrated while more effective than previous designs.

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Dec 9, 2018 5:08:19 PM

Gnil: Rennteam Moderator; Loc: VD, Switzerland , Switzerland; Posts: 14045, Gallery; Registered on: Mar 11, 2005; Reply to: SportCarGroup

Re: OFFICIAL: The new Porsche 992 – a design icon and high-tech sports car

Maybe they did it like this to kill any wants to park / drive slowly with the spoiler open as some show off's do , as now one will prefer to be dead then seen driving with the trunk open angry

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Dec 9, 2018 5:34:17 PM

the-missile: Rennteam Master; Loc: The World , France; Posts: 3469, Gallery; Registered on: May 10, 2014; Reply to: Gnil

Re: OFFICIAL: The new Porsche 992 – a design icon and high-tech sports car

Gnil:
Maybe they did it like this to kill any wants to park / drive slowly with the spoiler open as some show off's do , as now one will prefer to be dead then seen driving with the trunk open

trust me, I will find clients who wants to drive it like that Smiley

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Dec 9, 2018 5:39:42 PM

Porsche-Jeck: Rennteam Master; Loc: Rheinland , Germany; Posts: 4856, Gallery; Registered on: Jun 27, 2005; Reply to: the-missile

Re: OFFICIAL: The new Porsche 992 – a design icon and high-tech sports car

the-missile:
Gnil:
Maybe they did it like this to kill any wants to park / drive slowly with the spoiler open as some show off's do , as now one will prefer to be dead then seen driving with the trunk open

trust me, I will find clients who wants to drive it like that

Clients ? Didn't know yet that you are working as a psychiatrist Smiley

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Dec 9, 2018 6:09:41 PM

the-missile: Rennteam Master; Loc: The World , France; Posts: 3469, Gallery; Registered on: May 10, 2014; Reply to: Porsche-Jeck

Re: OFFICIAL: The new Porsche 992 – a design icon and high-tech sports car

I define clients as tacky average Joe which is way above what you can imagine in term of show off and taste indecision

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Dec 9, 2018 6:51:58 PM

d997h: Expert; Loc: . , Germany; Posts: 1810, Gallery; Registered on: Nov 24, 2005; Reply to: the-missile

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I think a ducktail would work with this design well - instead of „you have left your trunk open, buddy...“

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Dec 9, 2018 8:01:34 PM

ISUK: Rennteam Master; Loc: UK , United Kingdom; Posts: 4205, Gallery; Registered on: Dec 16, 2004; Reply to: Leawood911

Re: OFFICIAL: The new Porsche 992 – a design icon and high-tech sports car

Leawood911:
Do we have any pics of the spoiler open?

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Dec 9, 2018 8:19:40 PM

CGX car nut: Rennteam Master; Loc: NWI , United States; Posts: 4795, Gallery; Registered on: Aug 17, 2011; Reply to: ISUK

Re: OFFICIAL: The new Porsche 992 – a design icon and high-tech sports car

ISUK:
Leawood911:
Do we have any pics of the spoiler open?

Spoiler has two positions, except, in the States where the low drag position means the third brake lamp doesn’t meet DOT regulations for minimum height.

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Dec 9, 2018 8:21:24 PM

ISUK: Rennteam Master; Loc: UK , United Kingdom; Posts: 4205, Gallery; Registered on: Dec 16, 2004; Reply to: CGX car nut

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Porsche are starting to release official videos now. It's interesting that in most of them the rear spolier is not shown as deployed. In this video it is briefly shown extending at around a minute or so in but that's the only shot of it.

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Dec 9, 2018 8:27:25 PM

CGX car nut: Rennteam Master; Loc: NWI , United States; Posts: 4795, Gallery; Registered on: Aug 17, 2011; Reply to: ISUK

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ISUK:
Porsche are starting to release official videos now. It's interesting that in most of them the rear spolier is not shown as deployed. In this video it is briefly shown extending at around a minute or so in but that's the only shot of it.

That speaks to the intended market.

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Dec 9, 2018 8:35:14 PM

haudimal: Pilot; Loc: EU; Posts: 319, Gallery; Registered on: Jul 30, 2007; Reply to: CGX car nut

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@CGX could you just once use reply instead of (full) quote everytime even if it is the post direct above?

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Dec 9, 2018 9:27:10 PM

Boxster Coupe GTS: Rennteam Master; Loc: UK , United Kingdom; Posts: 5863, Gallery; Registered on: Feb 23, 2005; Reply to: d997h

Re: OFFICIAL: The new Porsche 992 – a design icon and high-tech sports car

d997h:
I think a ducktail would work with this design well - instead of „you have left your trunk open, buddy...“

Absolutely agreed 100 per cent.

I expect that a "ducktail" spoiler will be a VERY popular option for many Porsche 992 models...

Smiley

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Dec 10, 2018 12:00:54 AM

CGX car nut: Rennteam Master; Loc: NWI , United States; Posts: 4795, Gallery; Registered on: Aug 17, 2011; Reply to: haudimal

Re: OFFICIAL: The new Porsche 992 – a design icon and high-tech sports car

Quite the picayune for a couple of posts as bandwidth, last time one checked, is cheap.

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Dec 10, 2018 1:24:26 AM

Leawood911: Rennteam VIP; Loc: Kansas, USA , United States; Posts: 6909, Gallery; Registered on: Aug 29, 2006; Reply to: CGX car nut

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Thanks for all the pictures. Yes I know these are the same fans as the 991 but I thought I asked back then as well. They look cheap but critical

The car looks broken with the rear spoiler up. Like it got hit from behind. Oh well. A lot of money for a sub three liter six banger but they will sell a lot of them. Can’t hurt my 997 values.

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