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    Sep 10, 2020 11:39:23 PM

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    AB Sportscars: Audi R8 V10 vs BMW M8 vs Nissan GT-R Nismo vs Porsche 992 Turbo S

    Lausitzring Lap Time:

    Audi R8 - 1:32,11 / Top Speed: 246,4 km/h
    BMW M8 - 1:31,33 / Top Speed: 241,6 km/h
    Nissan GT-R - 1:34.06 / Top Speed: 239,6 km/h
    Porsche 911 - 1:29,95 / Top Speed: 250,6 km/h


    Acceleration:

    0-100: 2,9 / 3,1 / 3,3 / 2,7
    0-130: 4,3 / 4,7 / 4,8 / 4,0
    0-180: 7,4 / 8,4 / 8,6 / 7,1
    0-200: 9,1 / 10,3 / 10,5 / 8,6
    0-250: 15,1 / 17,5 / 18,8 / 14,6

    1/4 Mile: 10,63 / 11,04 / 11,15 / 10,41


    Braking:

    100-0(Cold): 37,4 m / 33,9 m / 35,9 m / 30,3 m
    100-0(Warm): 31,9 m / 32,1 m / 35,5 m / 30,2 m
    200-0(Warm): 119,7 m / 128,0 m / 128,3 m / 118,6 m


    Weight(kg): 1,633 / 1,897 / 1,753 / 1,644

    Weight Distribution(F/R%): 41/59 - 55/45 - 55/45 - 38/62

    Tires: Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2 (A0) / Pirelli P Zero / Dunlop Sport Maxx GT (NR1) / Pirelli P Zero (NA1)

    Price As Tested (Euro): 210,800 / 176,388 / 204,696 / 227,750

    Sep 10, 2020 11:54:48 PM

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    Re: AB Sportscars: Audi R8 V10 vs BMW M8 vs Nissan GT-R Nismo vs Porsche 992 Turbo S

    992 Turbo S is quick! Even with PZeros.

    I was expecting better from the R8 which had Cup 2.

    Sep 11, 2020 7:03:33 AM

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    Re: AB Sportscars: Audi R8 V10 vs BMW M8 vs Nissan GT-R Nismo vs Porsche 992 Turbo S

    The M8 is impressive in all tests !


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    Sep 11, 2020 8:31:55 AM

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    Re: AB Sportscars: Audi R8 V10 vs BMW M8 vs Nissan GT-R Nismo vs Porsche 992 Turbo S

    Topspeed:

    992 Turbo S is quick! Even with PZeros.

    I was expecting better from the R8 which had Cup 2.

    The Cup 2 for the R8 are a joke, had them on my R8, they were not really faster than my current PZero Corsa on my Performante. They are optimised for street driving, not the track.

    Even so, the R8 Performance track performance is quite disappointing in this test in my opinion. Apparently they made the car not only less loud (PF) but also more comfortable (according to my former Audi dealer, customers demanded that Smiley).

    Yes, the 992 Turbo S uses the latest generation Porsche N-rated PZero and it seems to be a fantastic tire...at least for one Nordschleife run. Smiley


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    Sep 11, 2020 8:35:55 AM

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    Re: AB Sportscars: Audi R8 V10 vs BMW M8 vs Nissan GT-R Nismo vs Porsche 992 Turbo S

    Gnil:

    The M8 is impressive in all tests !

    Yes, indeed. A friend had the M8 Cabriolet Performance as a rental car, he was pretty amazed with the performance.


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    Sep 11, 2020 2:27:11 PM

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    Re: AB Sportscars: Audi R8 V10 vs BMW M8 vs Nissan GT-R Nismo vs Porsche 992 Turbo S

    The GT-R needs to be retired. Hopefully, the next GT-R moves the game on again for everyone to catch up again...


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    Sep 13, 2020 4:59:35 PM

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    Re: AB Sportscars: Audi R8 V10 vs BMW M8 vs Nissan GT-R Nismo vs Porsche 992 Turbo S

    EnglishManInNY:

    The GT-R needs to be retired. Hopefully, the next GT-R moves the game on again for everyone to catch up again...

    There appears to be a 400Z coming, much sooner than any GT-R.  Of course not in these leagues. 


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    Sep 14, 2020 6:59:05 AM

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    Re: AB Sportscars: Audi R8 V10 vs BMW M8 vs Nissan GT-R Nismo vs Porsche 992 Turbo S

    4trac:

    There appears to be a 400Z coming, much sooner than any GT-R.  Of course not in these leagues. 

    It has been postponed. Still coming , but later 


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    Sep 14, 2020 2:07:34 PM

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    Re: AB Sportscars: Audi R8 V10 vs BMW M8 vs Nissan GT-R Nismo vs Porsche 992 Turbo S

    Tomorrow is the debut of the 400Z concept.  

    Sep 16, 2020 1:23:41 AM

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    Re: AB Sportscars: Audi R8 V10 vs BMW M8 vs Nissan GT-R Nismo vs Porsche 992 Turbo S

    400Z out.......boring......nothing special.......move along...


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    Sep 16, 2020 1:22:37 PM

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    Re: AB Sportscars: Audi R8 V10 vs BMW M8 vs Nissan GT-R Nismo vs Porsche 992 Turbo S

    EnglishManInNY:

    400Z out.......boring......nothing special.......move along...

    New Nissan Z Not Coming To Europe, Roadster And Hybrid Nismo Possible


    “A shrinking European sports cars market and specific regulations on emissions mean that Nissan was unable to build a viable business case for the introduction of the production version of the next generation Z-car in Europe.”

     

    Sep 16, 2020 2:42:15 PM

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    Re: AB Sportscars: Audi R8 V10 vs BMW M8 vs Nissan GT-R Nismo vs Porsche 992 Turbo S

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    400Z out.......boring......nothing special.......move along...

    At first I thought it was boring but I watched the video nevertheless.  Some of the details, which do not photograph well in the more distant shots, came alive.  The design, at first appeared unfinished, is very redolent of the designs languages of the older Z cars.  Add a manual transmission with a 400 bhp turbocharged V6 to the mix and this car becomes attractive to a number of consumers in North America.  If Nissan can hold the price to around $50,000, they will have a sales success.  

    Sep 16, 2020 5:43:41 PM

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    Re: AB Sportscars: Audi R8 V10 vs BMW M8 vs Nissan GT-R Nismo vs Porsche 992 Turbo S

    That front grille mail


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    Sep 16, 2020 7:06:56 PM

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    Re: AB Sportscars: Audi R8 V10 vs BMW M8 vs Nissan GT-R Nismo vs Porsche 992 Turbo S

    Pentium:

    That front grille mail

    Initially, one thought the same about the grille.  However, that changed when watching the video.  This detail will probably change, along with the tail lamps on the production model. 

    Sep 28, 2020 8:11:08 PM

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    Re: AB Sportscars: Audi R8 V10 vs BMW M8 vs Nissan GT-R Nismo vs Porsche 992 Turbo S

    If the Z doesn't turn you on, then this little Toyota hb will smiley

    Sep 29, 2020 8:55:59 AM

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    Re: AB Sportscars: Audi R8 V10 vs BMW M8 vs Nissan GT-R Nismo vs Porsche 992 Turbo S

    The Toyota GR Yaris is an amazing little racer with AWD. I was actually thinking about getting one (lease) from my local dealer but he told me that he needs to get his "numbers" (whatever this means) first, before he can make an offer. He also said that the car is in high demand but in the end, he doesn't believe that many of the interested people will actually be able to insure this car (he has lots of inquiries from young people who probably cannot get proper insurance for the car).

    My son hates this car, he wants something with a "punch" (torque, sound, engine). yes


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    Sep 29, 2020 9:42:29 AM

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    Re: AB Sportscars: Audi R8 V10 vs BMW M8 vs Nissan GT-R Nismo vs Porsche 992 Turbo S

    RC:

    My son hates this car, he wants something with a "punch" (torque, sound, engine). yes

    He is going to cost you thousands later on. Smiley Smiley


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    Sep 29, 2020 4:09:40 PM

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    Re: AB Sportscars: Audi R8 V10 vs BMW M8 vs Nissan GT-R Nismo vs Porsche 992 Turbo S

    RC:

    The Toyota GR Yaris is an amazing little racer with AWD. I was actually thinking about getting one (lease) from my local dealer but he told me that he needs to get his "numbers" (whatever this means) first, before he can make an offer. He also said that the car is in high demand but in the end, he doesn't believe that many of the interested people will actually be able to insure this car (he has lots of inquiries from young people who probably cannot get proper insurance for the car).

    My son hates this car, he wants something with a "punch" (torque, sound, engine). yes

    Can't blame him for watching too much youtube videos Smiley

    If my dealer was taking orders right now for this Yaris, I'd get one for myself ASAP and not my son Smiley

    It's already sold out in Australia!

    https://www.toyota.com.au/all-new-gr-yaris

     

    Sep 30, 2020 9:27:19 AM

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    Re: AB Sportscars: Audi R8 V10 vs BMW M8 vs Nissan GT-R Nismo vs Porsche 992 Turbo S

    BiTurbo:
    RC:

    The Toyota GR Yaris is an amazing little racer with AWD. I was actually thinking about getting one (lease) from my local dealer but he told me that he needs to get his "numbers" (whatever this means) first, before he can make an offer. He also said that the car is in high demand but in the end, he doesn't believe that many of the interested people will actually be able to insure this car (he has lots of inquiries from young people who probably cannot get proper insurance for the car).

    My son hates this car, he wants something with a "punch" (torque, sound, engine). yes

    Can't blame him for watching too much youtube videos Smiley

    If my dealer was taking orders right now for this Yaris, I'd get one for myself ASAP and not my son Smiley

    It's already sold out in Australia!

    https://www.toyota.com.au/all-new-gr-yaris

     

    I would never get my son this car, way too fast for him. Smiley

    My son still put his mind on a pickup truck and this comes from someone who loves sports cars. Smiley I think this happened for two reasons: He is very tall and he really has issues fitting in smaller cars and he is scared that he is going to be too fast as a beginner and this is his way of self-restriction while still being able to enjoy an emotional ride (V8 sound, etc.). Not sure however if driving a pickup truck in Germany is the best idea Smiley but he finishes school next year and if the grades are as "expected", he will get his pickup truck. I think. Smiley


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    Sep 30, 2020 10:58:51 PM

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    Re: AB Sportscars: Audi R8 V10 vs BMW M8 vs Nissan GT-R Nismo vs Porsche 992 Turbo S

    Which truck does he like?

    Oct 1, 2020 10:40:03 AM

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    Re: AB Sportscars: Audi R8 V10 vs BMW M8 vs Nissan GT-R Nismo vs Porsche 992 Turbo S

    mcdelaug:

    Which truck does he like?

    Right now he is madly in love with the RAM 1500 TRX but of course he knows that he is never going to get such a powerful and expensive truck. Smiley He would be very happy with the RAM 1500 Rebel (see photo, exactly in this color). It just needs to have a nice sounding V8. Smiley

    2019-ram-1500-rebel-white-agt-europe.jpg

    Will be difficult, in Germany pickup trucks, especially with a V8, don't have exactly a very good reputation (environment and all) and another problem is parking spaces, I don't have a clue how he will park this thing here, most parking lots in Germany barely fit my Mercedes GLC. Smiley


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    Oct 1, 2020 12:01:26 PM

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    Re: AB Sportscars: Audi R8 V10 vs BMW M8 vs Nissan GT-R Nismo vs Porsche 992 Turbo S

    There’s kind of a revival of the 70s Datsun pickups in the US now... people actually collect them I think. Ram is the third most popular brand in Texas, fourth if you count Chevy and GMC as separate, but my friend that like Ram buys a new one every 3 years or so and won’t have anything else.

    Oct 1, 2020 12:07:08 PM

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    Re: AB Sportscars: Audi R8 V10 vs BMW M8 vs Nissan GT-R Nismo vs Porsche 992 Turbo S

    mcdelaug:

    There’s kind of a revival of the 70s Datsun pickups in the US now... people actually collect them I think. Ram is the third most popular brand in Texas, fourth if you count Chevy and GMC as separate, but my friend that like Ram buys a new one every 3 years or so and won’t have anything else.

    Interesting, didn't know that. Smiley

    I guess my son would be happy with any kind of pickup truck, as long as it has a nice sounding V8. Actually, any kind of car with a V8. Smiley I was thinking about a Camaro or Challenger as well, they have those electronic nannies to limit power/speed for teenage drivers or valet mode but in the end, I think that my son is going to get what is (financially and reasonably) possible at the time he has his driver's license. No Smart for him though, he hates this car. Smiley 


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    Oct 17, 2020 7:47:31 PM

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    RC:

    I guess my son would be happy with any kind of pickup truck, as long as it has a nice sounding V8. Actually, any kind of car with a V8. Smiley I was thinking about a Camaro or Challenger as well, they have those electronic nannies to limit power/speed for teenage drivers or valet mode but in the end, I think that my son is going to get what is (financially and reasonably) possible at the time he has his driver's license. No Smart for him though, he hates this car. Smiley 

    Show this to your son Christian Smiley

     I expect it to sell like hot cakes, heck I wish I needed an offroader so I'd have an excuse to play around with one of these Smiley

     


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    Oct 18, 2020 2:47:46 AM

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    This is on my short list Carlos. Looking great in that video👍

    Oct 18, 2020 9:33:05 AM

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    Re: AB Sportscars: Audi R8 V10 vs BMW M8 vs Nissan GT-R Nismo vs Porsche 992 Turbo S

    Can't wait for the Raptor version of this.

    And hopefully this drives better than a Wrangler, which to me is just not that good. One of my siblings has a Rubicon JLU and even though it's new and packed with cool features, it is just not that fun to drive.

     

    Oct 19, 2020 10:34:20 AM

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    Re: AB Sportscars: Audi R8 V10 vs BMW M8 vs Nissan GT-R Nismo vs Porsche 992 Turbo S

    Carlos from Spain:
    RC:

    I guess my son would be happy with any kind of pickup truck, as long as it has a nice sounding V8. Actually, any kind of car with a V8. Smiley I was thinking about a Camaro or Challenger as well, they have those electronic nannies to limit power/speed for teenage drivers or valet mode but in the end, I think that my son is going to get what is (financially and reasonably) possible at the time he has his driver's license. No Smart for him though, he hates this car. Smiley 

    Show this to your son Christian Smiley

     I expect it to sell like hot cakes, heck I wish I needed an offroader so I'd have an excuse to play around with one of these Smiley

     

    One big problem with this car (my son knows it): No V8. There are rumors that Ford might offer a model called "Warthog" with a V8 (maybe even with the Raptor engine) but so far... Smiley 

    The reason why my son wants a pickup truck is not because he loves these cars but because he wants a big car where he fits in properly (he is over 1,90 m at 17) and which sounds properly and unfortunately there are only SUVs and pickup trucks. Smiley Smiley


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    Oct 19, 2020 10:53:04 AM

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    Not a problem for him though, a novice driver doesn't need the V8, in fact they lowest V6 versión is almost too much already imo. I heard it's not coming to Europe anyway.


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    Oct 19, 2020 12:32:47 PM

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    Re: AB Sportscars: Audi R8 V10 vs BMW M8 vs Nissan GT-R Nismo vs Porsche 992 Turbo S

    Carlos from Spain:

    Not a problem for him though, a novice driver doesn't need the V8, in fact they lowest V6 versión is almost too much already imo. I heard it's not coming to Europe anyway.

    He doesn't need a V8, he wants one. Smiley Smiley


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