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    Re: 2018 Challenger Hellcat 'Demon'

    noone1:

    Yeah, it really has nothing to do with the people/culture. Manuals were just cheaper in Europe.

    In Europe, definitely. Automatic transmissions were reserved to bigger and heavier cars, mostly in the luxury car sector (funny, Americans introduced these cars to Europe at first...). Later on, the automatic transmission made it into smaller mid sized cars and now you can find it almost everywhere. The old auto trannies were pretty slow, sometimes even outright annoying, no fun to use, especially not in manual mode. With modern DCT systems nowadays, things have changed but in the US, choosing manual over auto is definitely a cultural thing. A manly thing. Smiley Smiley


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991.2 Carrera GTS Cabriolet (2018), Porsche Cayenne S Diesel (2017), Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016), Mini JCW (2015)


    Re: 2018 Challenger Hellcat 'Demon'

    I can't even think of the last time I saw a manual transmission in the US that wasn't a sports cars. I've never even seen them in rentals in the US, whereas I still end up with manuals in Europe when I select the cheapest options.


    Re: 2018 Challenger Hellcat 'Demon'

    We had a manual Mini for 10 years, when we replaced it last year by another Mini, auto box have progressed a lot and auto made sense, not manual. Manual only makes sense in vintage cars.


    Re: 2018 Challenger Hellcat 'Demon'

    I had one of a handful manual 2012 Hyundai Sonatas. It was very manly. ☠️  I made it a sports car. 


    Re: 2018 Challenger Hellcat 'Demon'

    Manual. Automatics were invented so people who wear high heels can drive too. indecision 


    Re: 2018 Challenger Hellcat 'Demon'

    JoeRockhead:

    Manual. Automatics were invented so people who wear high heels can drive too. indecision 

    Smiley Smiley


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991.2 Carrera GTS Cabriolet (2018), Porsche Cayenne S Diesel (2017), Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016), Mini JCW (2015)


    Re: 2018 Challenger Hellcat 'Demon'

    My favorite - an automatic is like having someone else service your wife. 

    🤭

    my first transmission was a dog leg 901 in my 1972 914 in 1978. The only automatic Porsche I ever drove was moving a 928 across a parking lot.   Never used 🧤 


    Re: 2018 Challenger Hellcat 'Demon'

    JoeRockhead:

    Manual. Automatics were invented so people who wear high heels can drive too. indecision 

    My wife desperately wanted an Aston Rapide until she found out it didn't come in manual. Our current ML benz is the only automatic she has ever owned. 

    BTW she used to keep driving loafers in the car to change out of her heels to drive in. 


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    Re: 2018 Challenger Hellcat 'Demon'

    Mithras:
    JoeRockhead:

    Manual. Automatics were invented so people who wear high heels can drive too. indecision 

    My wife desperately wanted an Aston Rapide until she found out it didn't come in manual. Our current ML benz is the only automatic she has ever owned. 

    BTW she used to keep driving loafers in the car to change out of her heels to drive in. 


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    Past-President, Porsche Club of America - Upper Canada Region

     

    Maybe your wife should talk to my wife? She always wears high heels and similar shoes, I told her it is dangerous but she doesn't care. Smiley

    I am actually happy my wife isn't into cars because then, we would fight who drives. Smiley One of my wife's female friends is a self-made business woman and loves cars, also loves driving them and her last boyfriend (of many) ended their relationship recently because "you are such a strong woman and I don't feel comfortable with that".  That "strong" woman cried for days after this idiot left her, she is a very nice person, so his loss. Smiley


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    RC (Germany) - Rennteam Editor Porsche 991.2 Carrera GTS Cabriolet (2018), Porsche Cayenne S Diesel (2017), Audi R8 V10 Plus (2016), Mini JCW (2015)


     
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