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    Supercharging? TPC Racing

    Short Version:
    Has anyone already done or thought about the idea of supercharging their n/a P-car? This kit claims about 500 hp and 415 ft/lbs for $12K. Slapped on a GT3 it would mean murder for a lot of TT's - maybe even give the GT2 a run for its money.

    http://www.tpcracing.us/products/superchargers/porsche_997_supercharger_kit.html

    Long Version:
    By coincidence, I was driving through Jessup, Maryland about 6AM this morning coming back from a one night stand that began in Georgetown, but somehow ended up in Baltimore. (Don't ask - the peenis was doing the driving last night).

    I decide since the traffic is light, I always wanted to take local Route 1 from Baltimore to D.C. - now's the perfect time to do it and see all the local towns I usually blast by on I-95 or the Balt-Wash Parkway.

    I was STARVING and pulled over when I found a local diner (Frank's) in a town called Jessup. Grabbed some breakfast, payed the tab and as I walked out, I look across street and see a used 996 GT3 front clip stickered up and loaded with rubber sling-off laying in the parking lot

    Now Jessup has that real sleepy town feel where you can tell nothing exactly happens at a expedited pace. As a matter of fact, with the exception of the local neon sign or rehabbed hotel, it looks like it hasn't changed much since the late 60's - so the LAST thing I expect to see is signs of modern life in the form of a 996 GT3 front end.

    Curiously I walk over and see about 7 more stacked behind it and a bunch of assorted body bits - crashed fenders, rear clips, quarter panels.

    But what jumps out at me is all the Rolex 24hrs of Daytona stickers! Hmmm...Hmmm... Have I just stumbled onto a legitimate race shop?
    Walk around a bit peek inside the window. Too dark to see inside. Then I look around - and there's an umarked pristine high dollar rig and hauler with some serious built-in sodium gas lights in the hauler. Well, you only need those if you're night racing and you usually leave your trailer unmarked if you're carrying some pretty expensive gear in the hold and want to go unnoticed.

    What is this place ... Look for signage .... here it is - TPC Racing / Porsche.

    I think, "Hmmm...when I get the internet, I'm going to search these ...." - and then my train of thought is suddenly broken by a spotlight and that distinct engine and electronics hum of a Police Cruiser.

    I get that "Oh sh*t" pinchy feeling in the pit of your stomach. Apparently, somehow ole Heist temporarily forgot he's an out-of-town black guy, with a black sweat hoody on, black slacks, black shoe-sneakers, walking around a parking lot full of Porache bits at twilight in the morning, looking like he's sizing up and casing the joint
    So of course this intrusion on my investigation is completely racially motivated!

    Cop asks what I'm doing - I explain, he asks for my identification, runs it, comes back clean (Hey those umpteen parking tickets I have in D.C., they haven't translated to a warrant yet! ) and says I'm trespassing and to be about my away.

    "Yes, Officer." and I'm outta there.

    Anyway, apparently these guys won the 24 Hrs of Daytona back in 06 - no small undertaking. But these also specialize in making P's handle better and produce some serious HP with Porsches with the aid of Superchargers instead of Turbos. A $12K kit for the 997 yields 503(!)Hp at the crank. That's about 20 more than a TT and probably just a bit shy of what the upcoming TT-S will put out.

    Given these guys are some hardcore racers, I doubt these numbers are padded either.

    Re: Supercharging? TPC Racing

    Ahh, the joy of being a Black American. Racially motivated? Maybe so, maybe not. In that particular instance a White would have some tall explaining to do, too. Gotta be careful about inspecting expensive hardware when the owners are not around. As far as the parking tickets are concerned, well hey, you can't just ignore them. They're going to bite you eventually.

    Supercharging? To me, you supercharge a Porsche because the warranty's expired, your car's trade-in value is low due to years or mileage, you want more performance, but really can't afford the Turbo. You see, to do it right, they have to tear your engine all apart, lower the compression, rechip, different catalytic converters, install intercoolers and associated duct work, etc., etc. Big bucks. I'm not sure it's worth it.

    Re: Supercharging? TPC Racing

    Not worth it. It will have off the line performance with brakes and handling that do not match the car performance. In the end it's a mutant that requires repairs all the time and it will never be a GT2, Gt3 or a TT. If you crave a steak why buy a cheese burger

    Re: Supercharging? TPC Racing

    I was joking with the racially motivated thing. It was completely justified. I would have done the same thing had I been in the cop's place.

    Sometimes you want a steak, but can't afford it - so you buy hamburger and season it a little so it taste like steak.

    Re: Supercharging? TPC Racing

    I did some research on this too. There's a company called EVO Motorsports that offers the kit for the same price. Their claim is 475hp on a 997S.

    http://www.evoms.com/home.asp

    Also, Excellence magazine did an article on the conversion, and were quite impressed with it. Here's the link:

    http://www.evoms.com/evo/Pages/evoscmedia.asp

    Re: Supercharging? TPC Racing

    Quote:
    Greentree said:
    Ahh, the joy of being a Black American. Racially motivated? Maybe so, maybe not. In that particular instance a White would have some tall explaining to do, too. Gotta be careful about inspecting expensive hardware when the owners are not around. As far as the parking tickets are concerned, well hey, you can't just ignore them. They're going to bite you eventually.

    Supercharging? To me, you supercharge a Porsche because the warranty's expired, your car's trade-in value is low due to years or mileage, you want more performance, but really can't afford the Turbo. You see, to do it right, they have to tear your engine all apart, lower the compression, rechip, different catalytic converters, install intercoolers and associated duct work, etc., etc. Big bucks. I'm not sure it's worth it.



    I agree. I contacted RUF Autocenter and it would be about $25k to put a supercharger in my Carrera S to get 100 hp more. Compared to the X51 option that I have on my car, it would make sense but only if there were no more alternatives. Now, if I sold my car and put the $25k on top of what I get for it, I may be able to get into a Turbo with minimal financing. That is a better choice IMO. Even with a 2000 996, if you add the $25k for that sort of conversion, one could buy an early 996 Turbo with very little if not any financing.

    Re: Supercharging? TPC Racing

    Yeah, and the belt driven centrifugal supercharger is going to have the same sort of lag as a non-variable geometry exhaust driven one.

    Now, putting one on a Ford PU that already has a low compression ratio and has an engine that's easy to get to might make some sense.

    Nah, the Turbo's the one for me. I got to drive one awhile ago and it was a really exhilerating experience. 12 psi of boost! The most I'd ever seen before that (in a production car) was around 7 psi. It's Boot and Scoot.

     
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