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    Re: 992 GT3 Touring...

    ok, looking forward to it, however, the 991 T already was "only" a base Carrera with some "S" parts - again, if and when the "992 T" would be dealt with in same Motorsport Team as the GT3, then, this would be a game changer like the 981 Spyder and the 718 Spyder...wink 


    Re: 992 GT3 Touring...

    d997h:

    ok, looking forward to it, however, the 991 T already was "only" a base Carrera with some "S" parts - again, if and when the "992 T" would be dealt with in same Motorsport Team as the GT3, then, this would be a game changer like the 981 Spyder and the 718 Spyder...wink 

    I think the 718 was the first Spyder from the Motorsports team.


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    Re: 992 GT3 Touring...

    ... 981 Spyder to the 718 Spyder … Smiley


    Re: 992 GT3 Touring...

    d997h:

    ... 981 Spyder to the 718 Spyder … Smiley

    Gotcha Smiley


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    Re: 992 GT3 Touring...

    I wouldn’t expect the 992 T - whether or not it gets the 9A2 NA 4.0L - to be a Motorsport division car.

    I would expect it to be the “enthusiast” 992 in the sub GT3 bracket. Not sure where the rumored sport classic would fit. 


    Re: 992 GT3 Touring...

    Guest:

    I wouldn’t expect the 992 T - whether or not it gets the 9A2 NA 4.0L - to be a Motorsport division car.

    I would expect it to be the “enthusiast” 992 in the sub GT3 bracket. Not sure where the rumored sport classic would fit. 

    Sport Classic seems redundant with the 50th Anniversary Carrera RS, but maybe there will be some surprises...


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    Porsche's GT4/GTS N/A Flat-Six Will Stick Around Until 2026

    The ‘9A2 Evo’ engine used in the most potent 718 Boxster and Cayman models will be in production for some time yet, Porsche’s Dr Frank Walliser has confirmed

     


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    Topspeed:

    Porsche's GT4/GTS N/A Flat-Six Will Stick Around Until 2026

    The ‘9A2 Evo’ engine used in the most potent 718 Boxster and Cayman models will be in production for some time yet, Porsche’s Dr Frank Walliser has confirmed

    Porsche's GT4/GTS N/A Flat-Six Will Stick Around Until 2026

    The ‘9A2 Evo’ engine used in the most potent 718 Boxster and Cayman models will be in production for some time yet, Porsche’s Dr Frank Walliser has confirmed...

    Porsche's GT4/GTS N/A Flat-Six Will Stick Around Until 2026 - News

    Porsche’s decision to build a whole new, naturally-aspirated flat-six for the 718 Cayman GT4 and Boxster Spyder siblings raised many eyebrows. Yes, the 4.0-litre ‘9A2 Evo’ engine (below) may be related to the turbocharged ‘9A2’ used in the 911 Carrera models, but there’s precious little carryover. 

    Stuttgart has lobbed a considerable amount of money at the thing, so it wasn’t a shock to see the unit appear in the rejuvenated 718 Cayman and Boxster GTS. Nor should we be surprised that Porsche is going to keep it in production for as long as possible, which will help the investment be recouped. It will stick around for longer than you might have expected, though.

    Porsche's GT4/GTS N/A Flat-Six Will Stick Around Until 2026 - News

    Speaking to Car Throttle at the launch of the 718 GTS siblings, vice president of 911 and 718 product lines Dr Frank Walliser gave us some idea of the engine’s future. We know it already complies with Euro 6DG-Temp emissions rules - helped by the use of cylinder shut-off technology and petrol particulate filters - which will take 9A2 Evo to January 2021. But, it’s set to satisfy the incoming ‘AP’ legislation also.

    “AP comes and has to be fulfilled…AP is the end of [Euro 6-DG-] Temp, that should last until end of [20]23,” Walliser said, adding, “Then we hope for three years of silence, and then we expect a small improvement in the AP and then the next big move will come in [20]26, Euro 7.”

    Porsche's GT4/GTS N/A Flat-Six Will Stick Around Until 2026 - News

    If you’re struggling to wrap your head around all those different rating codes, what you need to know is this - the engine will live on until 2023 at least, and probably 2026. Euro 7 is still an unknown at this stage, so it’s tricky to predict whether or not the flat-six could survive past that point.

    Will that be the time of the Cayman and Boxster’s long-rumoured switch to electric power only? Walliser wouldn’t give any strong hints either way. “The question is how quick will the markets develop. Is it feasible? Will it be still a cool car? This is what we have to consider - how can we keep the spirit of the car; the soul of the car.”

    Porsche’s first foray into the world of EVs does prove it could work, Walliser reckons. “Taycan showed we can make electric cars that keep the Porsche feeling, the Porsche soul. They drive like a Porsche, they feel like a Porsche,” he said, adding, “If we could bring something like that to a sports car…why not. In these days we have to look at all the alternatives - we have to look at hybrids, we have to look at full electric cars, at normally-aspirated engines.” 

    It’s that final point which is key - against all odds, Porsche will be keeping natural-aspiration going long after most rivals call it quits. “[In the] year 2020 [Porsche is] offering a 4.0-litre normally aspirated engine, so it gives us a USP. We are also selling emotions and doing things that are not expected.”

    Smiley 


    Re: 992 GT3 Touring...

    Boxster Coupe GTS:

    Andreas Preuninger has indicated that the Porsche Motorsport derived engine in the 991 Speedster will be the basis of the engine in the 992 GT3 models... Smiley

    Porsche's new exhaust has saved the 9,000rpm flat-six

    (10 May 2019)

    Porsche launched the 911 Speedster this week, effectively a swansong for the old-gen 911 and with the 991.2 GT3’s howling 4.0-litre flat-six sitting pride of place in its rump.

    It’s a stupendous engine, revving to 9,000rpm and making one of the very greatest noises on earth as it does so. As a reminder that naturally aspirated engines are often more fun than turbos, it’s as stark as they come.

    Happily, Andreas Preuninger – head of Porsche’s GT-badged cars – all but confirmed this isn’t the engine’s swansong, with much of the thanks going to a clever new exhaust system. It incorporates a particulate filter, to lower the car’s emissions, but thanks to the fastidiousness of Porsche’s engineers it’s somehow gained 10bhp and lost 10kg, too.

    “This is what happens when you push very good engineers to the limit,” Preuninger tells us. “It has very thin steel sheet soldering which is super light, and losing 10 kilos at the back end of the car – down low – is something you really feel.

    “You don’t lose a lot of sound either. This car is a little more well behaved, but it has a more cultured sound, which is okay for a Speedster. It fits the times were living in at the moment a little better.

    “The valving in the exhaust is electrically controlled, so it’s continuously moving. We are the only ones with an electric system that can take the heat of an exhaust. If you control the flaps mechanically the sports exhaust is either on or off.”

    So, the soundtrack is still pretty exceptional, and friendlier emissions effectively futureproof this engine, too. So surely the next GT3 models can duck out of turbocharging, too.

    “We have saved this beautiful creature for the future,” says Preuninger, who wouldn’t be drawn on where we’ll actually see the 4.0-litre flat-six next. “We are trying to keep the flame alive as long as possible. We think the high-revving naturally aspirated engine is an amazing thing that needs saving.”

    We couldn’t agree more...

    Link: https://www.topgear.com/car-news/supercars/porsches-new-exhaust-has-saved-9000rpm-flat-six

    Porsche 911 Speedster: Road Review

    Video Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_hKGYD8gOg

    ...while the GT4 4.0 engine is already being used by the Boxster GTS 4.0 and Cayman GTS 4.0 and could also appear in a future 992 Carerra GTS 4.0 for example... Smiley

    As we look forward to more details of the 992 GT3, it’s worth reflecting on the 991 Speedster’s engine specifications... 

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    ...for comparison this is the engine chart for the 991.2 GT3 RS...

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    Smiley


    Re: 992 GT3 Touring...

    Thanks for posting!


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    Re: 992 GT3 Touring...

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    Re: 992 GT3 Touring...

    That's quite the rear diffuser the GT3 is sporting.  Looks like the rear fascia is heavily revised from that found on the sport design or the latest aero iteration on the 992 Carrera S.  


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    When will the 992 GT3 Touring arrive in showrooms? Smiley


    Re: 992 GT3 Touring...

    Presentation will be end of this year, at the dealer Q1 next year 


    Re: 992 GT3 Touring...

    I wonder if they will release the touring at the same time as gt3


    Re: 992 GT3 Touring...

    A photoshop of the Porsche 992 GT3 based on the Super Bowl sneak preview...  1554541446878image.gif

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    Re: 992 GT3 Touring...

    Please no angry


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    Re: 992 GT3 Touring...

    Gauss:

    Please no angry

    If the rear spoiler on the 992 GT3 looks like that, assume 90 per cent will be Touring spec! Smiley


    Re: 992 GT3 Touring...

    Boxster Coupe GTS:
    Gauss:

    Please no angry

    If the rear spoiler on the 992 GT3 looks like that, assume 90 per cent will be Touring spec! Smiley

    I'd be very surprised to see 4 wing support legs.


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    Re: 992 GT3 Touring...

    that is just horrible. please no. i am planning on trading the GT4 i am about to get for the new GT3 but it might be a keeper if this is the alternative. 


    Re: 992 GT3 Touring...

    Very bad photoshop enlightened


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    Re: 992 GT3 Touring...

    Hopefully the Porsche 992 GT3 Touring will look more like this...  1554541446878image.gif

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    Smiley


    Re: 992 GT3 Touring...

    the-missile:

    Very bad photoshop enlightened

    Agreed. 


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    Re: 992 GT3 Touring...

    Latest footage taken yesterday at industry pool Ring. 12.50 shows the new 992 GT3 without camo. CF hood with S ducts looks nice. Now can see gooseneck wing set up. Looks pretty good to me...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sir9-0GjBgs&feature=youtu.be


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    Re: 992 GT3 Touring...

    macca993:

    Latest footage taken yesterday at industry pool Ring. 12.50 shows the new 992 GT3 without camo. CF hood with S ducts looks nice. Now can see gooseneck wing set up. Looks pretty good to me...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sir9-0GjBgs&feature=youtu.be

    Thanks macca! Good to see they are getting some miles on the 992 GT3!  Smiley

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    ...still looks there’s like a bit of camouflage? Smiley


    Re: 992 GT3 Touring...

    Tes I agree. Rear bumper still has some by the looks...

     


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    2017 991.2 GT3 Manual, 2017 Alfa Romeo Giulia QV, 2017 Macan S (Petrol)


    Re: 992 GT3 Touring...

    The second car could be a ducktail Sportclassic...

    Blueflame


    Re: 992 GT3 Touring...

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    Re: 992 GT3 Touring...

    some new pictures here. Some big bodywork changes from previous pictures I had seen.

    https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/new-2021-porsche-911-gt3-drops-disguise-nurburgring


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    Re: 992 GT3 Touring...

    EnglishManInNY:

    some new pictures here. Some big bodywork changes from previous pictures I had seen.

    https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/new-2021-porsche-911-gt3-drops-disguise-nurburgring

    The above picture was taken yesterday... Smiley The pics in Autocar look pretty much the same to me, so this is probably the "final" (still camouflaged) version.

    Next week, I am getting to drive a factory owned 991.2 GT3 I got offered to buy (actually for my wife). Very low mileage, everything is basically new (wear parts have all been exchanged). Not sure though...not really something I would want my wife to drive. Smiley


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