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    Re: 911 R Thread Closed

    SciFrog:

    Nope, a lightweight full GT3 specs cab or real targa with back seats and PDK. Think a marriage between a California and a 458SA...

    Whatever weight you lose from having "lightweight full GT3 spec" you're going to gain double that amount by having the Targa...


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    Re: 911 R Thread Closed

    911 R

    189544 € with Mwst.

    323km/h

    3.8s 0-100km/h

    1370kg without AC, PCM or Audiosystem

    RWS specially tuned to mechanical(!!) LSD

    Newly developed 6 speed manual gearbox

    Discreet rear difussor

    PCCB standard


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    So does the car actually carry any premium components over a cheaper GT3 and RS, or is it just a special edition price?

    What do the GT3 and RS weigh on comparison?


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    noone1:

    So does the car actually carry any premium components over a cheaper GT3 and RS, or is it just a special edition price?

    What do the GT3 and RS weigh on comparison?

    No premium components over 991.1 GT3 or 991.1 GT3 RS.

    991 R is slower on the track and in straight line then 991.1 GT3/GT3 RS.

    But, it offer unique manual gearbox. It counts night and day difference for die hard manual gearbox fans.


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    KresoF1:

    911 R

    189544 € with Mwst.

    323km/h

    3.8s 0-100km/h

    1370kg without AC, PCM or Audiosystem

    RWS specially tuned to mechanical(!!) LSD

    Newly developed 6 speed manual gearbox

    Discreet rear difussor

    PCCB standard

    Image result for snoopy bored


    Re: 911 R Thread Closed

    noone1:

    So does the car actually carry any premium components over a cheaper GT3 and RS, or is it just a special edition price?

    What do the GT3 and RS weigh on comparison?

    PCCB is a $9k option on GT3/RS, so it effectively makes it cheaper than RS (if one wants those brakes).  I wonder if it has a very different suspension tuning from GT3 - you can see the PASM button on the photos...


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    16 Cayman GT4, 73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550, 79 635CSi

     


    Re: 911 R Thread Closed

    Good luck to all the speculators out there kiss Yawn


    Re: 911 R Thread Closed

    Grant:
    SciFrog:

    Nope, a lightweight full GT3 specs cab or real targa with back seats and PDK. Think a marriage between a California and a 458SA...

    Whatever weight you lose from having "lightweight full GT3 spec" you're going to gain double that amount by having the Targa...

    Maybe, but I am not the engineer, let them make it happen... Ferrari does the SA so there is something they can do.


    Re: 911 R Thread Closed

    on reflection, the red stripes are sort of cool .. they just don't go with the PORSCHE black decals (font and colour looks odd) on the sides


    Re: 911 R Thread Closed

    SciFrog:

    Good luck to all the speculators out there kiss Yawn

    +1 

    double yawn


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    2015 981 Cayman GT4 | White | Full Bucket Seats | Sport Chrono
    2014 991 Carrera 4S | Dark Blue Metallic | PDK | Sport Chrono | SPASM


    Re: 911 R Thread Closed

    I'd rather have a GT4 or a spider than the R broken heart for the price delta.


    Re: 911 R Thread Closed

    bluelines:
    SciFrog:

    Good luck to all the speculators out there kiss Yawn

    +1 

    double yawn

    My bet?

    Over 60% of all 911 Rs will end in speculators hands. Just look at 991 GT3 RS offer on mobile.de...


    Re: 911 R Thread Closed

    sfo:
    On reflection, the red stripes are sort of cool .. they just don't go with the PORSCHE black decals (font and colour looks odd) on the sides

    Here is the inspiration for that look (Porsche should have made smaller 5-lug Fuchs wheels, instead of GT3 parts):

    911r & others.jpg


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    16 Cayman GT4, 73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550, 79 635CSi

     


    Re: 911 R Thread Closed

    Optional are green stripes.


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    I never understand the premium on the RS. The new GT3.2 is always superior...


    Re: 911 R Thread Closed

    KresoF1:

    Optional are green stripes.

    And choice of White or Silver paint (with either black or brown interior)?


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    Whoopsy:

    Hmm, the rumor is real. There will be a new car at Geneva smiley but we have basically seen it here already and the spec is also posted before. 

    also learn about the next GT3 plus another special product that 'might' come to market, which will be very very special, basically everyone here wanted it right here right now.

     

     

    Very curious to hear what the special product might be. I wonder if it'll be mentioned in an interview. 

    Thanks for the details that you provided!


    Re: 911 R Thread Closed

    KresoF1:

    Optional are green stripes.

    Clubsport pack? 😉


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    Re: 911 R Thread Closed

    Grant:
    KresoF1:

    Optional are green stripes.

    And choice of White or Silver paint (with either black or brown interior)?

    It seems so. 

    Btw, 991 units and if someone is really interested it is not strictly sold out yet...


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    Ouch. So long a premium limited car...


    Re: 911 R Thread Closed

    KresoF1:
    bluelines:

    So the current GT3/RS engine has been phased out? 

    This is what I heard from my P source as well. 991.2 GT3 will use new engine.

    This is not correct.

    991 GT3 MA175 started with non designated engine and moved to E (replacement stop sale), F (MY2015) and G (MY2016).

    So what AP means is 991 GT3 engine was really Version 1.0-1.4. The G engine in 991 GT3 has the updated oil pump, filter, sump, squirters etc from the MA176 MY2016 991 GT3RS. Infact the engine is now almost identical (improved finger rockers and spirngs) although it does not have the crankshaft of teh RS or the enlarged capacity. We call the 991 RS MA176 engine Version 1.5 then.

    The Motorsports 9A1 (MA17X) is in basis teh MA175/6 unit but with all the series updates and then further updates in Nov 2016 to ensure its robustness for racing. There was even minor fettling of ECU maps and exhaust happening over Xmas. 

    The 911R engine is the MA176 based engine with different intake runners and mapping as the packaging is different. It may have further running revisions to oiling taken from Motorsports lessons late last year. I think to say its version 2.0 is a little inacurate, more like version 1.8.

    They are not "throwing the engine out". PMS are very happy with the debut of the MA176X and expect it to see service for a few years until rule changes call otherwise (Turbo).

     

     


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    Re: 911 R Thread Closed

    Macca - Do you expect 991.2 GT3 motor to have 176 or a new designation?  Thanks!


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    Re: 911 R Thread Closed

    macca993:
    KresoF1:
    bluelines:

    So the current GT3/RS engine has been phased out? 

    This is what I heard from my P source as well. 991.2 GT3 will use new engine.

    This is not correct.

    991 GT3 MA175 started with non designated engine and moved to E (replacement stop sale), F (MY2015) and G (MY2016).

    So what AP means is 991 GT3 engine was really Version 1.0-1.4. The G engine in 991 GT3 has the updated oil pump, filter, sump, squirters etc from the MA176 MY2016 991 GT3RS. Infact the engine is now almost identical (improved finger rockers and spirngs) although it does not have the crankshaft of teh RS or the enlarged capacity. We call the 991 RS MA176 engine Version 1.5 then.

    The Motorsports 9A1 (MA17X) is in basis teh MA175/6 unit but with all the series updates and then further updates in Nov 2016 to ensure its robustness for racing. There was even minor fettling of ECU maps and exhaust happening over Xmas. 

    The 911R engine is the MA176 based engine with different intake runners and mapping as the packaging is different. It may have further running revisions to oiling taken from Motorsports lessons late last year. I think to say its version 2.0 is a little inacurate, more like version 1.8.

    They are not "throwing the engine out". PMS are very happy with the debut of the MA176X and expect it to see service for a few years until rule changes call otherwise (Turbo).

     

     

    Your info is correct. But, 991.2 GT3 will use something like MA177(or MA176.2 or whatever) engine revision. 


    Re: 911 R Thread Closed

    Any words on when we can expect 991.2 GT3?


    Re: 911 R Thread Closed

    macca993:There was even minor fettling of ECU maps and exhaust happening over Xmas. 

    Mine went in to Porsche Reading in January and came out feeling much different when coming home in it down the motorway. She was in for a thermostat change but the guy said some other updates were done. She was noisier and had more torque, it was very blatant.

    Is it possible that the fettling you describe could have been done??....


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    "I Have Done It!".

    991 GT3 pick up in October 2014.


    Re: 911 R Thread Closed

    crayphile:
     

     

     

    You missed the big one  - 2.7 RS Smiley

     

    that most iconic of all 911s will obviously be homaged ... but is still years away ...

    1973 ......+ 50 years :  model year 2023 !

    then comes the 50 Jahre Turbo and some 60 Jarhe models the same decade and so on and so forth !

    Smiley


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    Re: 911 R Thread Closed

    I wonder if any of the current cars (aside from those that are already honoring a previous car) will ever be cherished as classics.  Somehow I think in 50 years, we're more likely to see the 100th anniversary 911R than the 50th anniversary 991.

    Maybe the 50th for the GT4 (for you Bluelines) SmileySmiley

     


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    Re: 911 R Thread Closed

    Grant, 50th Spyder in 2060 for sure. I might get to buy that last sports car before I'm too old to drive. smiley


    Re: 911 R Thread Closed

    WAY:

    Grant, 50th Spyder in 2060 for sure. I might get to buy that last sports car before I'm too old to drive. smiley

    Smiley


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