Crown

Board: Porsche - Cayman Language: English Region: Worldwide - Asia Share/Save/Bookmark Close

Forum - Thread


    DCS suspension controller

    The 2 GT3s and the GT4 at the track events all were runnng dcs and each quite skilled driver said it really improved suspension dynamics.

    http://www.dscsport.com/filtered-products/?ref=215

    are any of you guys running this?

    ive ordered a trial, it bolts in and is tuneable

     

     

     

     

     


    Re: DCS suspension controller

    Never tried it - interested to hear how you like it!


    --

    16 Cayman GT4, 73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550, 79 635CSi


    Re: DCS suspension controller

    will report.  also getting a bid from Porsche on PDK box from clubsport to replace this too tall box...  that could be perfect


    Re: DCS suspension controller

    watt:

    will report.  also getting a bid from Porsche on PDK box from clubsport to replace this too tall box...  that could be perfect

    Smiley


    --

    2015 981 Cayman GT4 | White | Full Bucket Seats | Sport Chrono
    2014 991 Carrera 4S | Dark Blue Metallic | PDK | Sport Chrono | SPASM


    Re: DCS suspension controller

    bluelines:
    watt:

    will report.  also getting a bid from Porsche on PDK box from clubsport to replace this too tall box...  that could be perfect

    Smiley

    Ha - is that the emoticon for "heresy"?  Smiley


    --

    2011 Range Rover Sport S/C,  2009 Porsche 911S


    Re: DCS suspension controller

    watt:

    will report.  also getting a bid from Porsche on PDK box from clubsport to replace this too tall box...  that could be perfect

    Don't do it.  I heard Manthey Racing in Germany is working on an R&P.  Try them first...

    PDK box does not have good ratios (not like GT3).  Clubsport uses regular 7 speed PDK  (top speed comes in 6th) with overdrive 7th locked out - ratios only slightly better than manual.

    Did you try 1st gear for the really slow corners?


    --

     

    16 Cayman GT4, 73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550, 79 635CSi

     


    Re: DCS suspension controller

    Grant:
    watt:

    will report.  also getting a bid from Porsche on PDK box from clubsport to replace this too tall box...  that could be perfect

    Don't do it.  I heard Manthey Racing in Germany is working on an R&P.  Try them first...

    PDK box does not have good ratios (not like GT3).  Clubsport uses regular 7 speed PDK  (top speed comes in 6th) with overdrive 7th locked out - ratios only slightly better than manual.

    Did you try 1st gear for the really slow corners?


    --

    16 Cayman GT4, 73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550, 79 635CSi

     

    Grant

    please read my comments on Suns thread.

     

    thanks for info on man they  I will try them

     


    Re: DCS suspension controller

    Sounds like your complaint may have more to do with gear spacing than overall gearing, right?  Unfortunately, 1st and 2nd are both on main shaft which is very expensive to manufacture.  Lower R&P won't help that (except vehicle speed will be lower where 2nd has to pull from same rpm).  I'm not using my car on the road much (too many tickets and strict law enforcement around here lately).  So, I haven't found too much to complain about with the gearing on the track (closer spacing would be nicer though).  After warranty, I would consider Guard replacements for 3rd, 4th, and 5th if I wanted to max its performance (along with Guard LSD).

    Maybe if budget was not important, a lower Manthey R&P with Guard 3rd - 5th would address all the gearing issues...


    --

     

    16 Cayman GT4, 73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550, 79 635CSi

     


    Re: DCS suspension controller

    Grant:

    Sounds like your complaint may have more to do with gear spacing than overall gearing, right?  Unfortunately, 1st and 2nd are both on main shaft which is very expensive to manufacture.  Lower R&P won't help that (except vehicle speed will be lower where 2nd has to pull from same rpm).  I'm not using my car on the road much (too many tickets and strict law enforcement around here lately).  So, I haven't found too much to complain about with the gearing on the track (closer spacing would be nicer though).  After warranty, I would consider Guard replacements for 3rd, 4th, and 5th if I wanted to max its performance (along with Guard LSD).

    Maybe if budget was not important, a lower Manthey R&P with Guard 3rd - 5th would address all the gearing issues...


    --

     

    16 Cayman GT4, 73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550, 79 635CSi

     

    Porsche Asia MD has told me the pdk won't fit due to electrics.....a great idea thoughSmiley

    you are pointing out r n p will lower everything but it won't fix the rev gap between 1st n 2nd?  If the r n p is low enough 2 nd might be low enough to use down to 30 kmh. Which would greatly improve canyon slamming.

    Ideally though  2 nd must be lowered then which is unlikely since even Porsche may not see the volume to justify.

    your estimate on man they r n p and guard 3,4,5?  $25 k usd?

    Grant, you need to work on your speeding skills! we should start a school of speeding hereSmiley

     

     


    Re: DCS suspension controller

    watt:
    your estimate on man they r n p and guard 3,4,5?  $25 k usd?

     

    No, should be less expensive than that.  I think ~$15k installed.


    --

     

     

    16 Cayman GT4, 73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550, 79 635CSi

     


    Re: DCS suspension controller

    Manthy informs me that they do NOT have a R n P nver will due to costs, and know of no one working on one.  Such is life


    Re: DCS suspension controller

    I took the monster out for a short breathe this evening. 12C in the air, Cup2 tires warmed up, 2.3 bar, and full throttle in 1st gear. The rear tires lit up like a top fuel dragster when then engine hit 4500 RPM indecision 

    This car does not need fancy tuning. It goes pretty well as is indecision


    --

    2015 981 Cayman GT4 | White | Full Bucket Seats | Sport Chrono
    2014 991 Carrera 4S | Dark Blue Metallic | PDK | Sport Chrono | SPASM


    Re: DCS suspension controller

    watt:

    Manthy informs me that they do NOT have a R n P nver will due to costs, and know of no one working on one.  Such is life

    Bummer.  I guess the only option is to change gears 3 through 6 which does nothing for 2nd...


    --

    16 Cayman GT4, 73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550, 79 635CSi


    Re: DCS suspension controller

    bluelines:

    I took the monster out for a short breathe this evening. 12C in the air, Cup2 tires warmed up, 2.3 bar, and full throttle in 1st gear. The rear tires lit up like a top fuel dragster when then engine hit 4500 RPM indecision 

    This car does not need fancy tuning. It goes pretty well as is indecision

    Nice!  Yes, it's a great package as is.  Not perfect, but best new car going for 5-figures by a mile! Smiley


    --

    16 Cayman GT4, 73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550, 79 635CSi


    Re: DCS suspension controller

    A truly:

    I took the monster out for a short breathe this evening. 12C in the air, Cup2 tires warmed up, 2.3 bar, and full throttle in 1st gear. BlueThe rear tires lit up like a top fuel dragster when thence of us with B roads and no autobahn engine hit 4500 RPM indecision 

    This car does not need fancy tuning. It goes pretty well as is indecision

    Shocking - blue lines is such a child burning rubberSmiley you're right, as Sun said its a truly great design SmileySmiley, but the 1-2 gap and the leggy 2,3,4 are pretty defective for those of us on B roads and without an autobahn. What's wrong with seeking perfection?

    are you running 2.3 all 4?  At the track we were running 33 psi all 4 hot, but I've been using the factory 29/33 on the road


    Re: DCS suspension controller

    95783_driving.gif

    I am also running 2.3 bar rear and 2.0 bar front (warm). On road and track.

    Give my regards to Sun wink


    --

    2015 981 Cayman GT4 | White | Full Bucket Seats | Sport Chrono
    2014 991 Carrera 4S | Dark Blue Metallic | PDK | Sport Chrono | SPASM


    Re: DCS suspension controller

    Grant:

    Never tried it - interested to hear how you like it!

    Monika had it installed on her standard 2009 Cayman S - we where hoping for a harder ride but didn't get that.

    But to be fair we have only done auto cross - We will swap in the DCS when we are at Nürburgring to see if we feel any improvement. 

     


    Re: DCS suspension controller

    Sounds good!


    --

    16 Cayman GT4, 73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550, 79 635CSi


    Re: DCS suspension controller

    Kobalt:
    Grant:

    Never tried it - interested to hear how you like it!

    Monika had it installed on her standard 2009 Cayman S - we where hoping for a harder ride but didn't get that.

    But to be fair we have only done auto cross - We will swap in the DCS when we are at Nürburgring to see if we feel any improvement. 

     

    Dear Kobalt please expatiate on your DSC experience, it sounds like it didnt work for Monika?  The GT4 pilot i met said the effect on his car was dramatic and he decided to buy after 3/4 lap.  I am still waiting for mine to arrive.

     

     


    Re: DCS suspension controller

    Watt,

    We ordered the box just before the last autocross of the season, we both drove Monikas Cayman and we thought both that it was too soft with DSC. But unfortunately we didn't have time to do any proper track driving because of the winter.

    I think you should consider this as initial observation - we will know more in a month.
    Until then looking forward to your report!

    What car will you install it in?

     

     


    Re: DCS suspension controller

    Kobalt:

    Watt,

    We ordered the box just before the last autocross of the season, we both drove Monikas Cayman and we thought both that it was too soft with DSC. But unfortunately we didn't have time to do any proper track driving because of the winter.

    I think you should consider this as initial observation - we will know more in a month.
    Until then looking forward to your report!

    What car will you install it in?

     

     

    The GT 4


    Re: DCS suspension controller

    This thread might turn up being interesting soon:

    http://rennlist.com/forums/991-gt3-gt3rs-and-911r/927664-dsc-sport.html


    Re: DCS suspension controller

    It looks interesting , but would you dare installing it on your RS ? 


    --

     964 Carrera 4 --  997.2 C2S , -20mm --  991 GT3 RS 


    Re: DCS suspension controller

    I don't feel I need it. But you never know...


    Re: DCS suspension controller

    Mines on the way, will report......


    Re: DCS suspension controller

    There's a longer discussion on the GT4 board there.  I suggested that DSC might be able to make a custom tune for stiffer springs on the GT4 (some hardcore track guys swapping springs but leaving shocks alone, which is not optimal IMO).


    --

     

    16 Cayman GT4, 73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550, 79 635CSi

     


    Re: DCS suspension controller

    So, first report on dsc

    Even Sun with his paws could install the thing.  Sun's unit has all of Leong's learning programmed in and he is a superb driver.

    feels "bouncier" in normal pasm in a straight line, car almost feels higher from ground .... but much firmer less roll and more planted in corners, quite clear the effect.  Carrying more speed on b roads after 20 minutes test.

    in pasm with the shock lit up very very firm but better on b roads  than porsche original, although need more evaluation.

    after one day very impressive, and likely worth the nzd $2300

    will add as we go.  And on the track and in the rain.....

     

     

    IMG_4442.jpg


    Re: DCS suspension controller

    My local friend with a GT4 just bought one too.  It will be interesting to see if/how his lap times change.  He has a very good amount of data-logs and lap times already, so comparing will be easy.  I like that you can modify the maps to adapt to alignment and suspension mods to theoretically improve pasm without changing shocks.


    --

    16 Cayman GT4, 73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550, 79 635CSi


    Re: DCS suspension controller

    Grant 

    please post his lap differentials.  Ive asked Leong for his and will report.


    Re: DCS suspension controller

    Will do - He's offered to let me try it too...


    --

    16 Cayman GT4, 73 Carrera RS 2.7 Carbon Fiber replica (1,890 lbs), 06 EVO9 with track mods. Former: 73 911S, Two 951S's, 996 C2, 993 C2, 98 Ferrari 550, 79 635CSi


     
    Edit

    Forum

    Board Subject Last post Rating Views Replies
    Porsche Sticky SUN'S LAST RUN TO WILSON, WY - 991 C2S CAB LIFE, END OF AN ERA (Part II) 5/15/24 8:44 AM
    art.italy
    856446 1808
    Porsche Sticky OFFICIAL: Porsche 911 (992) GT3 RS - 2022 3/12/24 8:28 AM
    DJM48
    294899 323
    Porsche Sticky The new Macan: the first all-electric SUV from Porsche 1/30/24 9:18 AM
    RCA
    103477 45
    Porsche Sticky OFFICIAL: Taycan 2024 Facelift 3/15/24 1:23 PM
    CGX car nut
    23002 50
    Porsche The moment I've been waiting for... 7/27/24 8:44 PM
    Pilot
     
     
     
     
     
    922355 1365
    Porsche GT4RS 4/21/24 11:50 AM
    mcdelaug
    446719 1454
    Porsche Welcome to the new Taycan Forum! 2/10/24 4:43 PM
    nberry
    434530 1526
    Porsche Red Nipples 991.2 GT3 Touring on tour 5/12/24 6:23 PM
    blueflame
    307870 669
    Motor Sp. 2023 Formula One 12/19/23 5:38 AM
    WhoopsyM
    151332 685
    BMW M 2024 BMW M3 CS Official Now 12/29/23 9:04 AM
    RCA
    140791 303
    Porsche 2022 992 Safari Model 3/7/24 4:22 PM
    WhoopsyM
    97800 239
    AMG Mercedes-Benz W124 500E aka Porsche typ 2758 2/23/24 10:03 PM
    blueflame
    85029 297
    Porsche 992 GT3 RS 3/3/24 7:22 PM
    WhoopsyM
    75205 314
    Motor Sp. Porsche 963 5/18/24 9:44 PM
    Wonderbar
    40482 249
    Ferrari Ferrari 296 GTB (830PS, Hybrid V6) 1/21/24 4:29 PM
    GT-Boy
    32373 103
    BMW M 2022 BMW M5 CS 4/8/24 1:43 PM
    Ferdie
    30163 140
    AMG [2022] Mercedes-AMG SL 4/23/24 1:24 PM
    RCA
    25618 225
    Porsche 911 S/T 9/21/24 5:26 AM
    Pilot
    24360 59
    Porsche Macan EV 1/25/24 9:10 AM
    RCA
    22234 28
    Motor Sp. Formula 1 2024!! 6/15/24 11:25 AM
    Anderson
    22131 217
    Porsche 993 4S 3/10/24 12:54 PM
    blueflame
    17178 49
    Porsche 992FL 12/27/23 5:49 PM
    Wonderbar
    16664 16
    BMW M New device for DD 11/23/23 11:58 PM
    WhoopsyM
    11417 9
    Porsche win the lottery? what would you buy? 9/14/24 12:36 AM
    Pilot
    8283 61
    BMW M BMW XM 2/22/24 9:56 PM
    Enmanuel
    7204 23
    Porsche Taycan ST vs EQS580 1/5/24 1:45 AM
    mcdelaug
    6709 14
    Porsche New Panamera Turbo order 3/29/24 3:25 PM
    N11KOY
    6485 7
    McLaren McLaren 650S Spider: 5 Years as my Daily Driver 10/17/24 6:16 AM
    sour
    6374 12
    Ferrari The SSO Awards: 2023 12/30/23 6:57 PM
    CGX car nut
    6307 6
    Porsche
    Asia
    red 997 gt3 S-Go 5104 11/20/23 9:38 AM
    Oj911
    6035 6
    53 items found, displaying 1 to 30.