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JimFlat6 said:
No,thats not the point at all. I want useful information,
not specious tests that are useless for any real data.
I could careless if a Opel had better times than a Ferrari, but in AMS that could happen Im sure! 
I want to also know vehicle history, mileage and tire data along with track surface conditions.
Also how many of these cars are also inspected for factory alignment specs or to see if the car has been corner balanced?
Its up to AMS to inspect and certify that the cars tested are what you would buy at a dealership and not tweaked by Dieter, Larry, Suji or Gino! Otherwise, AMS is knowingly or unkowingly misrepresenting a cars performance.
Without them representing the cars candidly and accurately, they are really little more than Auto Motor und Casino with HvS as the croupier.
It is so stupefyingly easy to tweak and prep a car for a magazine test.You can do so with no internal mechanical or electrical mods and still get quicker lap times than a new car from a dealer that has a dead stock set up.
That alone should be caveat enough about automobile tests.
About the conditions on the Ring:this track is 20km long and there is a 300 meters elevation change(air pressure varies).
The track is in altitude(weather changes faster than you can say it).Some parts of the track are always in the shades(track and air temperature are always low).
So,if you measure the conditions in one place,you can be sure that 10 minutes later the conditions in the same place would have changed.von Saurma does 2-3 flying lap.If every lap takes 8 minutes.....you know what I want to say.
Also,if you want to be very precise they would have to measure wind direction and wind speed in the 3 huge straights.
If they wanted to give information about the conditions,information about tires and engine,tire pressure(it would change every kilometer because tires heat up in the corners and cool down in the straights),clutch,tranny and engine oil quality,engine coolant,brake fluid,petrol quality,the driver's BMI,heart rate and blood presure,marital and social status,...it would take 5 pages minimum.For what?To explain a dfference of 2 seconds in a lap time of 480 seconds??
That's why Sport Auto doesn't give any information on track conditions of the Nurburgring.HR is a different story.
"Also how many of these cars are also inspected for factory alignment specs or to see if the car has been corner balanced?"
Did you know that Horacio Pagani went to the Ring when Sport Auto tested the Zonda F?Königsegg published the data of the Supertest on their website.
So,I think manufacturers pay attention to what Sport Auto publishes.
"Otherwise, AMS is knowingly or unkowingly misrepresenting a cars performance."
That's why I like to compare the results from different magazines of different countries.If you did the same,you would notice that nearly every magazine is biased towards Porsche...Japanese,Italian,French,etc.
"It is so stupefyingly easy to tweak and prep a car for a magazine test."
But it is more difficult to do it for 30 different magazine tests.And honestly,I don't think it's that easy
otherwise everyone would do it.
Following your logic,not a single test in the world is valid.
About the Gallardo SE lap time:I think the driver was Tom Kristensen.
) then extrapolation is limited value, surely?
Thier numbers are not alles ordnung! 
AMS get well soon! 
They built the car to improve upon the base Gallardo performance numbers. You, Crash and the German magazine are telling them they are full of Sh*t. 
