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Jan 29, 2007 2:25:18 PM
- 03-turbo911
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Jan 29, 2007 4:00:52 PM
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Re: How many 996tts?
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Goblorox said:
Thanks, I herd that your figures were the numbers sent to North America alone. Anyway, picking mine up in two days, cant wait!!! But still would like to know how many were produced and hence if it will maintain a decent depreciation.
While I have never seen an official number I would recommend the following back-of-the-envelope calculation:
Porsche builds around 3,000-4,000 TT p.a. The 996TTS was sold for 12-18 months.
Thus, I would expect a total of ca. 4,000 996TTS (taking into consideration the declining sales at the end of a model's product cycle).
Feb 3, 2007 7:15:09 AM
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Feb 4, 2007 8:18:17 AM
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Feb 10, 2007 6:16:45 PM
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Re: How many 996tts?
See end of year US 2005 production chart link below.
http://www.pbase.com/coinroller/image/74194645
This was released by Porsche on Aug.2, 2005 (Porsche's fiscal enf-of-year is July)
According to this press release, for MY2005, Porsche delivered 150 Turbo S Coupes, and 457 Turbo S Cabriolets to the US. I do not have Rest of World production numbers, but hope this helps.
http://www.pbase.com/coinroller/image/74194645
This was released by Porsche on Aug.2, 2005 (Porsche's fiscal enf-of-year is July)
According to this press release, for MY2005, Porsche delivered 150 Turbo S Coupes, and 457 Turbo S Cabriolets to the US. I do not have Rest of World production numbers, but hope this helps.
Feb 12, 2007 7:09:48 PM
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Feb 12, 2007 7:27:57 PM
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Re: How many 996tts?
I agree - confusing. I take the numbers quoted in the PCNA press release (see below) are indicating the number of cars produced in the model year, and not in the calendar year of 2005. So, they should accurately represent the number of cars considered "2005" even if produced say in Nov. 2004. Have you got another source of production numbers to compare or constrast these to?
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Porsche Cars North America Reports July Sales
Sales Increase for Month and Fiscal Year End
ATLANTA, August 2, 2005 -- Porsche Cars North America, Inc. (PCNA), importer and distributor of Porsche sports cars and Cayenne SUVs in the United States and Canada, today announced July retail sales in the United States totaled 2,804 cars, an increase of 4 percent compared to July of last year. Year-to-date sales reached a total of 18,930, up 3 percent from the same period last year.
In addition, PCNA closed its fiscal year in July and reported North American sales of 33,974 cars, an increase of 3.6 percent over the previous fiscal year. Of those cars, 6,480 were Boxsters (up 25 percent), 10,327 were 911s (up 2.5 percent), 336 were Carrera GTs (up 314 percent) and 16,831 were Cayennes (down 3 percent).
"Considering the current sales environment, beating last year's number is a testament to the value of our products," said Peter Schwarzenbauer, PCNA President and CEO. " We would have finished even higher with greater 911 supply. We only wish we had more 911s to meet the demand of our customers."
In addition, dealers sold 493 Porsche Approved Certified Pre-Owned vehicles compared to 428 for the same period last year. For the fiscal year, dealers sold 5,041 CPO vehicles compared to 3,930 the year before, an increase of 28 percent.
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Porsche Cars North America Reports July Sales
Sales Increase for Month and Fiscal Year End
ATLANTA, August 2, 2005 -- Porsche Cars North America, Inc. (PCNA), importer and distributor of Porsche sports cars and Cayenne SUVs in the United States and Canada, today announced July retail sales in the United States totaled 2,804 cars, an increase of 4 percent compared to July of last year. Year-to-date sales reached a total of 18,930, up 3 percent from the same period last year.
In addition, PCNA closed its fiscal year in July and reported North American sales of 33,974 cars, an increase of 3.6 percent over the previous fiscal year. Of those cars, 6,480 were Boxsters (up 25 percent), 10,327 were 911s (up 2.5 percent), 336 were Carrera GTs (up 314 percent) and 16,831 were Cayennes (down 3 percent).
"Considering the current sales environment, beating last year's number is a testament to the value of our products," said Peter Schwarzenbauer, PCNA President and CEO. " We would have finished even higher with greater 911 supply. We only wish we had more 911s to meet the demand of our customers."
In addition, dealers sold 493 Porsche Approved Certified Pre-Owned vehicles compared to 428 for the same period last year. For the fiscal year, dealers sold 5,041 CPO vehicles compared to 3,930 the year before, an increase of 28 percent.
Feb 13, 2007 11:38:41 AM
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Re: How many 996tts?
Between Aug 04 and Dec 04, Porsche SOLD in the US a total of:
996 TT Cab S: 112
996 TT Coupe S: 58
Between Jan 05 and July 05, Porsche SOLD in the US a total of
996 TT Cab S: 457
996 TT Coupe S: 150
Therefore for MY 05 (Aug 04-Jul 05) Porsche SOLD in the US a total of
996 TT Cab S: 515
996 TT Coupe S: 208
Re: How many 996tts?
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EricAlain said:
Between Aug 04 and Dec 04, Porsche SOLD in the US a total of:
996 TT Cab S: 112
996 TT Coupe S: 58
Between Jan 05 and July 05, Porsche SOLD in the US a total of
996 TT Cab S: 457
996 TT Coupe S: 150
Therefore for MY 05 (Aug 04-Jul 05) Porsche SOLD in the US a total of
996 TT Cab S: 515
996 TT Coupe S: 208
Based on these numbers one could do a simple calculation:
US cars sold MY05: 700
US cars sold until launch of 997TT in 2006: 500 (?)
Total number of US cars ca. 1200
Share of US cars in total cars: 40% (?)
Total number of TTS sold: ca. 3,000
Re: How many 996tts?
Actually it sound about right but I checked the numbers.
Aug 05 - Dec 05 Sales in USA:
996 TT Cab S: 74 (+5 TT Cab)
996 TT Coupe S: 19 (+1 TT coupe)
Jan 06 - Jul 06 Sales in USA
996 TT Coupe and Cab S and NON S: 0
So total 996 TT S (Coupe and Cab) in MY 06: 93 (19 Coupe + 74 Cab)
GRAND TOTAL for 996 TT "S" MY 05 + 06 USA: 816 units
996 TT Cab S: 589
996 TT Coupe S: 227
USA is about 40% of total sales, therefore world sales shouldn't be too far from 2,000 units.
I found the exact number for the WORLD:
MY 05:
996 TT Cab S: 941
996 TT Coupe S: 555
MY 06:
996 TT Cab S: 7
996 TT Coupe S: 8
TOTAL 996 TT "S" (Coupe + Cab) for MY 05 and MY 06: 1511 units.
Bottom line, this car was very much appreciated in the US.
Aug 05 - Dec 05 Sales in USA:
996 TT Cab S: 74 (+5 TT Cab)
996 TT Coupe S: 19 (+1 TT coupe)
Jan 06 - Jul 06 Sales in USA
996 TT Coupe and Cab S and NON S: 0
So total 996 TT S (Coupe and Cab) in MY 06: 93 (19 Coupe + 74 Cab)
GRAND TOTAL for 996 TT "S" MY 05 + 06 USA: 816 units
996 TT Cab S: 589
996 TT Coupe S: 227
USA is about 40% of total sales, therefore world sales shouldn't be too far from 2,000 units.
I found the exact number for the WORLD:
MY 05:
996 TT Cab S: 941
996 TT Coupe S: 555
MY 06:
996 TT Cab S: 7
996 TT Coupe S: 8
TOTAL 996 TT "S" (Coupe + Cab) for MY 05 and MY 06: 1511 units.
Bottom line, this car was very much appreciated in the US.
Feb 14, 2007 5:40:27 PM
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Re: How many 996tts?
Eric - Thanks for the info - very interesting. However, I was under the impression, that the 996 TTS was only a model 2005 produced car, but according to your numbers, the TTS also had small production in MY2004 and MY2006 - is that correct? If so, would the VIN numbers for those cars produced in 2004 & 2006 indicate these years?
Feb 14, 2007 5:52:43 PM
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Re: How many 996tts?
Hi Coinroller,
Numbers I'm quoting are sales to dealers (for WORLD numbers) and sales to final customers (for US) and not production. It is therefore possible that some cars were built in one MY and sold during the next one.
For example, some 996 (20 units) were sold in the North America (US + CAN) during CY (calendar) 2006 whilst the last one was made in March 2005. By the way, there is still 1 996 up for grab in the US......
I don't have this level of details when it comes to production so I can't confirm 996 TT "S" were MY 05 only.
Numbers I'm quoting are sales to dealers (for WORLD numbers) and sales to final customers (for US) and not production. It is therefore possible that some cars were built in one MY and sold during the next one.
For example, some 996 (20 units) were sold in the North America (US + CAN) during CY (calendar) 2006 whilst the last one was made in March 2005. By the way, there is still 1 996 up for grab in the US......
I don't have this level of details when it comes to production so I can't confirm 996 TT "S" were MY 05 only.
Feb 25, 2007 6:21:03 AM
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Feb 27, 2007 1:11:50 PM
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Re: How many 996tts?
Hi all,
I'm located in Australia where we get a pretty small allocation on some of these cars. Am particularly interested in a 996 GT2 or 996 Turbo S (or maybe TTx50) but have had trouble finding one suitable - probably due to small numbers in the country. Does anyone know if there is data published on how many were sold broken down by country - may influence whether I keep waiting for something to come up or settle for something slightly different to my main spec preferences.
Thanks.
I'm located in Australia where we get a pretty small allocation on some of these cars. Am particularly interested in a 996 GT2 or 996 Turbo S (or maybe TTx50) but have had trouble finding one suitable - probably due to small numbers in the country. Does anyone know if there is data published on how many were sold broken down by country - may influence whether I keep waiting for something to come up or settle for something slightly different to my main spec preferences.
Thanks.
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